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Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2012, 02:34:12 PM »

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If Rondo wins games and Boston continues to be willing to pay, the Celtics will continue to attract talent.

I wish Howard was impressed with Rondo.

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2012, 02:36:03 PM »

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Rondo runs the "O" on the court , he is THE MAN ( Doc's general)...

Look...On the court most important player, after the coach is the captain

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2012, 02:41:39 PM »

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Rondo runs the "O" on the court , he is THE MAN ( Doc's general)...

Look...On the court most important player, after the coach is the captain


Why?

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2012, 02:42:26 PM »

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People insulting Ray now. Did Ray Allen not play hard for the Celtics. Did he not play his role?

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2012, 02:45:18 PM »

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Rondo runs the "O" on the court , he is THE MAN ( Doc's general)...

Look...On the court most important player, after the coach is the captain


Why?

Why??? There no why

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2012, 02:46:13 PM »

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Rondo is arguably the "coach" on the floor. If he tells you to get in a spot so he can get you the ball, you get in that spot. If you have a problem with that then the real issue is the insecurity between your ears. This move by ray is more a reflection on himself then it is on Rondo. Go C's!!!

No man. The team has only one coach that in that case is Doc Rivers. Players are the same on the parket, and play different roles under coach "goverment", every player has to execute his role on the floor given by coach. If any player has to boss other players around, this team is gonna be a bull****.


I don't think you understand the NBA concept of basketball. But if you really beleive Rondo isn't the extention of Doc on the floor and the most important player (even more so than the captain) then you need to do a little more research. This is not soccer. The NBA game is a lot different than the European brand of basketball.

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2012, 02:46:42 PM »

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look, Rondo is doc's extension on the court. If Ray had a problem taking orders from someone "younger than him" he has a skewed view of his role in the NBA today...

we've all heard that as Rondo ascended to stardom there were clashes with the big 3...im guessing now that those were with Ray...both Pierce/KG seem to have come to terms that this is rondo's team

Ray never could...and he never could come to terms with sitting on the bench behind Avery Bradley who is....also younger than him.


Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2012, 02:54:17 PM »

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look, Rondo is doc's extension on the court. If Ray had a problem taking orders from someone "younger than him" he has a skewed view of his role in the NBA today...

I will tell you a similar case. In 2009 FC Barca, signed striker Ibrahimovic. He did the same thing like Rondo, bossing  the coach around and some importnt players of the team. What FC Barca did? They kicked out Ibrahimovic...

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2012, 02:58:27 PM »

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look, Rondo is doc's extension on the court. If Ray had a problem taking orders from someone "younger than him" he has a skewed view of his role in the NBA today...

I will tell you a similar case. In 2009 FC Barca, signed striker Ibrahimovic. He did the same thing like Rondo, bossing  the coach around and some importnt players of the team. What FC Barca did? They kicked out Ibrahimovic...


Yes this is not "football" though. The NBA game is a whole different animal than european soccer. The concepts of who runs the team and who bows to who in terms of power share are not even close to similar. You need to realize that.

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2012, 03:03:27 PM »

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Rondo is arguably the "coach" on the floor. If he tells you to get in a spot so he can get you the ball, you get in that spot. If you have a problem with that then the real issue is the insecurity between your ears. This move by ray is more a reflection on himself then it is on Rondo. Go C's!!!

No man. The team has only one coach that in that case is Doc Rivers. Players are the same on the parket, and play different roles under coach "goverment", every player has to execute his role on the floor given by coach. If any player has to boss other players around, this team is gonna be a bull****.

  The team's been operating like that for years. Rondo runs the offense. He calls out plays, and he tells the players where to be at times. That's his role on the team. If Doc wants to run a particular play, he has the team run that play. Otherwise he lets Rondo decide what to run.

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« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2012, 03:06:54 PM »

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look, Rondo is doc's extension on the court. If Ray had a problem taking orders from someone "younger than him" he has a skewed view of his role in the NBA today...

I will tell you a similar case. In 2009 FC Barca, signed striker Ibrahimovic. He did the same thing like Rondo, bossing  the coach around and some importnt players of the team. What FC Barca did? They kicked out Ibrahimovic...

  Rondo's not bossing the players, he's directing what the team should do on offense. Think of offensive possessions as somewhat similar to free kicks around the box. Someone on the pitch is going to decide who's taking the kick and whether it will be a shot  or a pass, near post or far post or whatever. Rondo's that player for the Celts.

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2012, 03:16:50 PM »

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look, Rondo is doc's extension on the court. If Ray had a problem taking orders from someone "younger than him" he has a skewed view of his role in the NBA today...

I will tell you a similar case. In 2009 FC Barca, signed striker Ibrahimovic. He did the same thing like Rondo, bossing  the coach around and some importnt players of the team. What FC Barca did? They kicked out Ibrahimovic...


Yes this is not "football" though. The NBA game is a whole different animal than european soccer. The concepts of who runs the team and who bows to who in terms of power share are not even close to similar. You need to realize that.

You wrong man. Every collective sport has the same way of managing things. So, you have to realize and understand that in collective sport the team have to work as a team, everybode has to play his role. Who boss around or put 'ego-pressure" will be kicked out.

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2012, 03:21:10 PM »

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  Rondo is a guy who wants to and obviously thrives in an up tempo, early offensive system.  Ray needs time to clear screens and get open,which he doesn't do nearly as well as he did a few years ago.

  Now who should you build your offense around?  A mid 20's All-Star PG who is just entering his prime or a 37 year old shooting guard who is past his prime?

  The team as a whole looked a whole lot better playing Rondo's style with Bradley then it did walking the ball up the court waiting on Ray Allen.

   On top of that Ray wanted 3 years at 9 million per year so he obviously didn't want to be in Boston any longer regardless of what he said publicly.

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2012, 03:25:18 PM »

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look, Rondo is doc's extension on the court. If Ray had a problem taking orders from someone "younger than him" he has a skewed view of his role in the NBA today...

I will tell you a similar case. In 2009 FC Barca, signed striker Ibrahimovic. He did the same thing like Rondo, bossing  the coach around and some importnt players of the team. What FC Barca did? They kicked out Ibrahimovic...


Yes this is not "football" though. The NBA game is a whole different animal than european soccer. The concepts of who runs the team and who bows to who in terms of power share are not even close to similar. You need to realize that.

You wrong man. Every collective sport has the same way of managing things. So, you have to realize and understand that in collective sport the team have to work as a team, everybode has to play his role. Who boss around or put 'ego-pressure" will be kicked out.

Rondo's role on the basketball court is far more similar to that of QB in American football, not that of a striker in Euro football.

The QB calls the shots, any player that dissents is going to be outcast.

Re: The real bad impact after conflict Rondo Vs Ray
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2012, 03:28:43 PM »

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look, Rondo is doc's extension on the court. If Ray had a problem taking orders from someone "younger than him" he has a skewed view of his role in the NBA today...

I will tell you a similar case. In 2009 FC Barca, signed striker Ibrahimovic. He did the same thing like Rondo, bossing  the coach around and some importnt players of the team. What FC Barca did? They kicked out Ibrahimovic...


Yes this is not "football" though. The NBA game is a whole different animal than european soccer. The concepts of who runs the team and who bows to who in terms of power share are not even close to similar. You need to realize that.

You wrong man. Every collective sport has the same way of managing things. So, you have to realize and understand that in collective sport the team have to work as a team, everybode has to play his role. Who boss around or put 'ego-pressure" will be kicked out.

You're not getting it. It is literally Rondo's job to direct his teammates out on the floor and call plays. It's not his ego and he's not "bossing them around". His teammates and coaches trust him to make the right decisions. This is what good point guards do. Chris Paul does it. Steve Nash does it.