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Re: Are we headed for the dreaded too deep bench?
« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2012, 10:03:52 PM »

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I actually wanted us to stock up on lots of young, high ceiling bigs that lack focus. I still think we should since Stiems is leaving, replace him with Anthony Randolph and we get:

Randolph, Sully, Fab Melo, JJJ, Sean Williams

Lots of insurance behind our starting bigs. Plus, with their high upsides there's a greater chance we get a contributor this year and a big of the future. And we get to really milk KG's contract for its worth.

I just really don't see why not.

Too many project big men already with Sullinger, JJJ, Stiemsma and Fab Melo.

I want proven established bigs alongside them. Dependable contributors.

Re: Are we headed for the dreaded too deep bench?
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2012, 10:11:39 PM »

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I actually wanted us to stock up on lots of young, high ceiling bigs that lack focus. I still think we should since Stiems is leaving, replace him with Anthony Randolph and we get:

Randolph, Sully, Fab Melo, JJJ, Sean Williams

Lots of insurance behind our starting bigs. Plus, with their high upsides there's a greater chance we get a contributor this year and a big of the future. And we get to really milk KG's contract for its worth.

I just really don't see why not.

Too many project big men already with Sullinger, JJJ, Stiemsma and Fab Melo.

I want proven established bigs alongside them. Dependable contributors.

Those are expensive though. Even the crappiest proven big costs more than we can afford. (And, again, I think Stiems is gone to Minny?)

Half these guys are "semi"-proven. I'm almost certain Sean Williams can be a better Stiemsma next year. Anthony Randolph hasn't seen steady playing time. JJJ has been with us for a year.

Having a healthy big when we need it is more important than having a "proven" one now imo. Our system just makes centers good. Even Semih did great before his injury. Krstic, Semih, JO, Shaq, Stiems...every single one of our semi-decent bigs were injured right when we needed them.

By getting them now they'd have experience with the team and with the plays. We just need a body inside imo.

Re: Are we headed for the dreaded too deep bench?
« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2012, 10:15:00 PM »

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I think that if Ray and Green are on the team, we're going to go small a lot. 

I could see something like this:

PG - Rondo 36, Terry 12
SG - Bradley 28 mpg, Terry 8, Ray 12
SF - Paul 32, Ray 12, Green 4
PF - Bass 25, Green 23
C - KG 28, backup center of your choice, 20


That team is going to get battered on the boards.

Bass and Green for 48 minutes at the power forward slot is a major liability on the backboards. Avery Bradley and Jason Terry in the backcourt. Ray Allen playing SF minutes. Pierce and Garnett gradually slowing down. Stiemsma a bit below average too.

I wouldn't be surprised if that team was at a deficit of 5-7 rebounds a night.

Well, there's really not another way if everyone comes back, unless they really want to put someone on the bench. 

Two reasons it could work:

1) The C's have never shied away from going small.  Posey and Baby both got significant minutes at the 4 in the '08 title run and Bass and Pietrus played the majority of the minutes at the 4 spot during many playoff games this year.  Green is actually more of a PF than Posey or Pietrus and has more height than Baby or Bass. 

2) Mismatches work both ways.  Green is undersized, but bigger 4s will have to keep up with him too.  What he gives up on the boards he should make up for on break aways and penetration. 

Re: Are we headed for the dreaded too deep bench?
« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2012, 10:35:01 PM »

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I am more concerned about Doc's ability to use the bench.

Let's face it, Doc isn't the smartest when it comes to managing rotations.  Nine times out of ten he'll sub the wrong guy in.

Re: Are we headed for the dreaded too deep bench?
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2012, 10:51:16 PM »

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I am more concerned about Doc's ability to use the bench.

Let's face it, Doc isn't the smartest when it comes to managing rotations.  Nine times out of ten he'll sub the wrong guy in.

Really? I thought he was great at the end of the year. He cut the rotation and even got production from Marquis in the post season.

Re: Are we headed for the dreaded too deep bench?
« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2012, 10:52:42 PM »

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No such thing except in an All-Star Game. Besides, with Boston's recent injury history, I would be AMAZED if the Cs went through the upcoming season with no key players missing significant time.

Sad thing is, I can't decide if this is a good thing or a bad thing. We need an extra deep bench because we sign unreliable talent.
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Re: Are we headed for the dreaded too deep bench?
« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2012, 08:57:44 AM »

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No such thing except in an All-Star Game. Besides, with Boston's recent injury history, I would be AMAZED if the Cs went through the upcoming season with no key players missing significant time.

Sad thing is, I can't decide if this is a good thing or a bad thing. We need an extra deep bench because we sign unreliable talent.

Terry has been extremely durable. He is older, to be sure, but he has been solid throughout his career.