Ray Allen Free Agency 'News' (Breaking Speculation: He's staying AND leaving)

[MBunge]

With Jason Terry in the fold, I'm actually not sure I wouldn't rather have a healthy Pietrus than Ray.

Mike

[celticinorlando]

With Jason Terry in the fold, I'm actually not sure I wouldn't rather have a healthy Pietrus than Ray.

Mike

depends what pietrus we get..we get air france that can hit 3s, defend lebron and finish at the rim..we will be ok...we get last year's version..then we are in trouble

[LEHGOCELTICS]

Say Ray Allen signs with the Heat. This clears his cap hold with the Celtics and we have more space to sign other free agents, correct?

[BudweiserCeltic]

Say Ray Allen signs with the Heat. This clears his cap hold with the Celtics and we have more space to sign other free agents, correct?

No, we still have Jeff Green and Bass holding things up.

[CelticSooner]

I love be some Felger, just because he doesn't deny he is a BS artist.  He embraces the fact that he knows nothing about basketball.  Tanguay on the other hand is the most obnoxiously arrogant "journalist" this side of Butch Stearns, and either refuses to admit that he has no idea what he is talking about, or is just too stupid to see it.

Yes. At least Felger doesn't come off as a snake. Tanguay on the other hand seems like he has an agenda when it comes to the C's. He comes off as a poor man's Skip Bayless.

[nickagneta]

Really think Ray helps this Celtics team tremendously but if he wants to go to Miami, that's cool. let's also make sure he gets paid too.

We can sign and trade him to Miami for a little over $5million a year and they can send us Udonis Haslem in return. Then Miami still has their mini mid level to find a replacement for Haslem.

Meanwhile, our starting PF problems are solved, Bass can resign as well as Stiemsma and Pietrus and the team looks like this:

Rondo/Terry/Moore
Bradley/Pietrus
Pierce/Green/Joseph
Haslem/Bass/Sullinger/Johnson
KG/Stiemsma/Melo

That team will contend for a title.

[Fafnir]

Say Ray Allen signs with the Heat. This clears his cap hold with the Celtics and we have more space to sign other free agents, correct?

No, we still have Jeff Green and Bass holding things up.

The only thing it'd really free up is more room under the 74 million apron to pay Green/Bass.

[Fafnir]

Really think Ray helps this Celtics team tremendously but if he wants to go to Miami, that's cool. let's also make sure he gets paid too.

We can sign and trade him to Miami for a little over $5million a year and they can send us Udonis Haslem in return. Then Miami still has their mini mid level to find a replacement for Haslem.

Meanwhile, our starting PF problems are solved, Bass can resign as well as Stiemsma and Pietrus and the team looks like this:

Rondo/Terry/Moore
Bradley/Pietrus
Pierce/Green/Joseph
Haslem/Bass/Sullinger/Johnson
KG/Stiemsma/Melo

That team will contend for a title.

I don't think Miami will give us any useful pieces from their current roster in a sign and trade.

At best they could use their mini-mle to sign for a guy to trade for Allen signed to a bigger deal.

[Snakehead]

Really think Ray helps this Celtics team tremendously but if he wants to go to Miami, that's cool. let's also make sure he gets paid too.

We can sign and trade him to Miami for a little over $5million a year and they can send us Udonis Haslem in return. Then Miami still has their mini mid level to find a replacement for Haslem.

Meanwhile, our starting PF problems are solved, Bass can resign as well as Stiemsma and Pietrus and the team looks like this:

Rondo/Terry/Moore
Bradley/Pietrus
Pierce/Green/Joseph
Haslem/Bass/Sullinger/Johnson
KG/Stiemsma/Melo

That team will contend for a title.

I don't think Miami will give us anything useful pieces from their current roster in a sign and trade.

At best they could use their mini-mle to sign for a guy to trade for Allen signed to a bigger deal.

Yeah even though they'd have the mini-MLE they just can't afford to give up any big at this point, they are so thin there.

And wow would it be crazy to see Ray in a Heat uniform and Haslem in a Celtics one.

[celticinorlando]

miami would give boston draft picks..nothing more

[Chris]

Say Ray Allen signs with the Heat. This clears his cap hold with the Celtics and we have more space to sign other free agents, correct?

Yup.  What is interesting is that I believe, if Ray, Green, and Bass walk, then the C's could be looking at over $10 million in cap space to use, as well as the space exception.

I think that is about plan G, because they won't be able to replace the amount of talent they are losing with that cap space.  But it would certainly make things interesting.

[Celtics Fan]

I love be some Felger, just because he doesn't deny he is a BS artist.  He embraces the fact that he knows nothing about basketball.  Tanguay on the other hand is the most obnoxiously arrogant "journalist" this side of Butch Stearns, and either refuses to admit that he has no idea what he is talking about, or is just too stupid to see it.

Yes. At least Felger doesn't come off as a snake. Tanguay on the other hand seems like he has an agenda when it comes to the C's. He comes off as a poor man's Skip Bayless.

Tell him to stick to the bruins then. Shut up about hoops.

[Fafnir]

Say Ray Allen signs with the Heat. This clears his cap hold with the Celtics and we have more space to sign other free agents, correct?

Yup.  What is interesting is that I believe, if Ray, Green, and Bass walk, then the C's could be looking at over $10 million in cap space to use, as well as the space exception.

I think that is about plan G, because they won't be able to replace the amount of talent they are losing with that cap space.  But it would certainly make things interesting.

Space exception?

[Chris]

Really think Ray helps this Celtics team tremendously but if he wants to go to Miami, that's cool. let's also make sure he gets paid too.

We can sign and trade him to Miami for a little over $5million a year and they can send us Udonis Haslem in return. Then Miami still has their mini mid level to find a replacement for Haslem.

Meanwhile, our starting PF problems are solved, Bass can resign as well as Stiemsma and Pietrus and the team looks like this:

Rondo/Terry/Moore
Bradley/Pietrus
Pierce/Green/Joseph
Haslem/Bass/Sullinger/Johnson
KG/Stiemsma/Melo

That team will contend for a title.

I don't think Miami will give us any useful pieces from their current roster in a sign and trade.

At best they could use their mini-mle to sign for a guy to trade for Allen signed to a bigger deal.

I think the deal that makes sense is Ray for Chalmers.  The Heat have Cole to take over for Chalmers, and could then use the mini-MLE to sign a cheaper replacement.  

And the C's could potentially send Chalmers to a third team if they wanted.

[celticinorlando]

i think green will be back

not sure about ray or pietrus

not sure what they do with bass

don't care about steamer