Nets not messing around!!

[Birdman]

They sign Gerald Wallace..looking to get Joe Johnson or O.J. Mayo...waiting for Deron Williams to sign. I wouldnt be surprise to see them get Jason Kidd and Kirilinko.

[henr1k]

If Howard didn't opt in, they would be in a great situation. Imagine being able to build around arguably the best big man and best point guard in the league.

They panicked at the trade deadline, when they traded #6 pick for Wallace, whom they would be able to sign this summer anyway cause he would opt out even if he stayed in Portland.

Now they are willing to take Joe Johnson, who is owned almost 90M/4. Another desperate move.

They will be the new Hawks - second round exit team without real shot at winning it all - but I guess that's their only shot at keeping Williams.

Lets say Williams sign max deal 98M/5 (first year 17.2M).
Johnson is due 19.7 next season, Wallace got 40M/4 and Lopez will get something like 60M/5.
That 4 players alone(58.9M) will put them over the cap with a huge hole at PF, unless they use bird rights to extend Humphries. That means they will have to fill out the rest of the roster with veteran minimum and one guy with mid level.

Not sure what happens with Morrow, Petro and  rookies Brooks and J. Williams? Some of them will be shipped to Atlanta.

D.Williams
J.Johnson
G.Wallace
Humphries ?
Brook Lopez

You think this is a team that could beat the Heat, or Celtics?

[KGs Knee]

I have a suspicion the Nets are trying to do two thing here.

1st is to build a team that looks competitive enough to entice DWill to sign there.

2nd is to aquire enough talent to later flip for Howard.  As it stands right now, there is no way the Nets have enough to motivate Orlando to make a deal.  By simply aquiring a bunch of talented players, Orlando might have interest in a few of them.  It's risky, but it may be there best chance to pull off a trade.

[colincb]

I have a suspicion the Nets are trying to do two thing here.

1st is to build a team that looks competitive enough to entice DWill to sign there.

2nd is to aquire enough talent to later flip for Howard.  As it stands right now, there is no way the Nets have enough to motivate Orlando to make a deal.  By simply aquiring a bunch of talented players, Orlando might have interest in a few of them.  It's risky, but it may be there best chance to pull off a trade.

Maybe they're trying to be competitive and put paying fans in the seats much like Jeremy Jacobs did with the Bruins for many years.  Wallace, DWill, and Joe Johnson as your core = long-term mediocrity.

[Kane3387]

If Howard didn't opt in, they would be in a great situation. Imagine being able to build around arguably the best big man and best point guard in the league.

They panicked at the trade deadline, when they traded #6 pick for Wallace, whom they would be able to sign this summer anyway cause he would opt out even if he stayed in Portland.

Now they are willing to take Joe Johnson, who is owned almost 90M/4. Another desperate move.

They will be the new Hawks - second round exit team without real shot at winning it all - but I guess that's their only shot at keeping Williams.

Lets say Williams sign max deal 98M/5 (first year 17.2M).
Johnson is due 19.7 next season, Wallace got 40M/4 and Lopez will get something like 60M/5.
That 4 players alone(58.9M) will put them over the cap with a huge hole at PF, unless they use bird rights to extend Humphries. That means they will have to fill out the rest of the roster with veteran minimum and one guy with mid level.

Not sure what happens with Morrow, Petro and  rookies Brooks and J. Williams? Some of them will be shipped to Atlanta.

D.Williams
J.Johnson
G.Wallace
Humphries ?
Brook Lopez

You think this is a team that could beat the Heat, or Celtics?

Sure. On paper they have good balance and a franchise guy.

[Birdman]

I wouldnt mind that starting 5 if they all can stay healthy

[T-LoDaniels]

If Howard didn't opt in, they would be in a great situation. Imagine being able to build around arguably the best big man and best point guard in the league.

They panicked at the trade deadline, when they traded #6 pick for Wallace, whom they would be able to sign this summer anyway cause he would opt out even if he stayed in Portland.

Now they are willing to take Joe Johnson, who is owned almost 90M/4. Another desperate move.

They will be the new Hawks - second round exit team without real shot at winning it all - but I guess that's their only shot at keeping Williams.

Lets say Williams sign max deal 98M/5 (first year 17.2M).
Johnson is due 19.7 next season, Wallace got 40M/4 and Lopez will get something like 60M/5.
That 4 players alone(58.9M) will put them over the cap with a huge hole at PF, unless they use bird rights to extend Humphries. That means they will have to fill out the rest of the roster with veteran minimum and one guy with mid level.

Not sure what happens with Morrow, Petro and  rookies Brooks and J. Williams? Some of them will be shipped to Atlanta.

D.Williams
J.Johnson
G.Wallace
Humphries ?
Brook Lopez

You think this is a team that could beat the Heat, or Celtics?

Could? Sure. But that team is horrible on defense and will have absolutely no depth. The Heat would beat that team in 4 or 5 games. Celtics will probably win in 6 or 7

[cman88]

I think their russian owner is more interested with making $$ off the team than actually trying to put a competitor together..

its the only way you can explain trading a lottery pick away for gerald wallace(and then paying him $10million a year) and then trying to trade for Joe Johnson..

those guys might make NJ a 40 win team or so...but they arent winning a championship with a lineup of deron/Johnson/wallace/humphries/lopez

now if they get howard thats another story...but they already blew that by giving away some of their most valuable chips

for some owners, all they want is just to field a competitive team that makes the playoffs...see the C's previous owner before wyc..he was content with us being "ok"

[theswitch]

If Howard didn't opt in, they would be in a great situation. Imagine being able to build around arguably the best big man and best point guard in the league.

They panicked at the trade deadline, when they traded #6 pick for Wallace, whom they would be able to sign this summer anyway cause he would opt out even if he stayed in Portland.

Now they are willing to take Joe Johnson, who is owned almost 90M/4. Another desperate move.

They will be the new Hawks - second round exit team without real shot at winning it all - but I guess that's their only shot at keeping Williams.

Lets say Williams sign max deal 98M/5 (first year 17.2M).
Johnson is due 19.7 next season, Wallace got 40M/4 and Lopez will get something like 60M/5.
That 4 players alone(58.9M) will put them over the cap with a huge hole at PF, unless they use bird rights to extend Humphries. That means they will have to fill out the rest of the roster with veteran minimum and one guy with mid level.

Not sure what happens with Morrow, Petro and  rookies Brooks and J. Williams? Some of them will be shipped to Atlanta.

D.Williams
J.Johnson
G.Wallace
Humphries ?
Brook Lopez

You think this is a team that could beat the Heat, or Celtics?

Could? Sure. But that team is horrible on defense and will have absolutely no depth. The Heat would beat that team in 4 or 5 games. Celtics will probably win in 6 or 7

I don't really agree. Wallace and Johnson is a really physically imposing, strong defensive tandem. Gerald Wallace is one of the few guys in the league who can slow Lebron James down. Johnson, Wallace and Humphries also make up for Lopez's rebounding deficiencies. No depth, but that's a terrific starting 5.

[mqtcelticsfan]

If the Nets find a way to pay over $150 million to Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace and Luis Scola over the next handful of years, I might never stop laughing.

[Surferdad]

If Howard didn't opt in, they would be in a great situation. Imagine being able to build around arguably the best big man and best point guard in the league.

They panicked at the trade deadline, when they traded #6 pick for Wallace, whom they would be able to sign this summer anyway cause he would opt out even if he stayed in Portland.

Now they are willing to take Joe Johnson, who is owned almost 90M/4. Another desperate move.

They will be the new Hawks - second round exit team without real shot at winning it all - but I guess that's their only shot at keeping Williams.

Lets say Williams sign max deal 98M/5 (first year 17.2M).
Johnson is due 19.7 next season, Wallace got 40M/4 and Lopez will get something like 60M/5.
That 4 players alone(58.9M) will put them over the cap with a huge hole at PF, unless they use bird rights to extend Humphries. That means they will have to fill out the rest of the roster with veteran minimum and one guy with mid level.

Not sure what happens with Morrow, Petro and  rookies Brooks and J. Williams? Some of them will be shipped to Atlanta.

D.Williams
J.Johnson
G.Wallace
Humphries ?
Brook Lopez

You think this is a team that could beat the Heat, or Celtics?

Could? Sure. But that team is horrible on defense and will have absolutely no depth. The Heat would beat that team in 4 or 5 games. Celtics will probably win in 6 or 7

I don't really agree. Wallace and Johnson is a really physically imposing, strong defensive tandem. Gerald Wallace is one of the few guys in the league who can slow Lebron James down. Johnson, Wallace and Humphries also make up for Lopez's rebounding deficiencies. No depth, but that's a terrific starting 5.

It's a good regular season starting 5, but not more.   DWill is the best player and then there's a big drop off.  I favor the theory that the Nets are collecting chips to go after Howard with some assets

[tyrone biggums]

I think their russian owner is more interested with making $$ off the team than actually trying to put a competitor together..

its the only way you can explain trading a lottery pick away for gerald wallace(and then paying him $10million a year) and then trying to trade for Joe Johnson..

those guys might make NJ a 40 win team or so...but they arent winning a championship with a lineup of deron/Johnson/wallace/humphries/lopez

now if they get howard thats another story...but they already blew that by giving away some of their most valuable chips

for some owners, all they want is just to field a competitive team that makes the playoffs...see the C's previous owner before wyc..he was content with us being "ok"

Massive difference between the Russian and Gaston. The Russian took on Joe Johnson's contract, Gaston meanwhile wouldn't carry more than 12 players for the season and seldom allowed his GM to exceed the luxury tax threshold if ever. He traded for Vin Baker because it saved the Celtics more money in the long run. I think the Russian wants to win, and wants the Nets to be a bigger franchise than the Knicks (hence the move to Brooklyn) and to get the media and press needed to ensure a sellout past year 1.

If you want to see a true Gaston comparison see Donald T Sterling...Gaston would have moved the Celtics to Zimbabwe if the price was right.

[D Dub]

Hawks aren't messing around either.
Watch them turn Horford, Harris, Zaza & picks into D12.

Teague, Josh Smith, Dwight Howard would have nice balance to it.  Add a couple of 3pt shooters and that's a top 6 team.  

Add D Will next offseason & they become the 1b favorite in the East.

[clover]

I think their russian owner is more interested with making $$ off the team than actually trying to put a competitor together..

its the only way you can explain trading a lottery pick away for gerald wallace(and then paying him $10million a year) and then trying to trade for Joe Johnson..

those guys might make NJ a 40 win team or so...but they arent winning a championship with a lineup of deron/Johnson/wallace/humphries/lopez

now if they get howard thats another story...but they already blew that by giving away some of their most valuable chips

for some owners, all they want is just to field a competitive team that makes the playoffs...see the C's previous owner before wyc..he was content with us being "ok"

The Wallace trade was clearly desperate and stupid, but the Nets also quietly purchased a couple of picks, so I really don't see him in the Jeremy Jacobs mold of cheap Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again. sports franchise ownership.

[Birdman]

Howard wont sign with Atlanta after this season if he is traded there