Trade Idea: Joe Johnson to Magic

[JSD]

J. Richardon, Big Baby,  Reddick, Q. Richardon, 1st rounder

For

Joe Johnson


I think it's a trade that makes sense for both teams. For Atlanta it gets them out of a huge contract and gives them more flexibility to build around a younger Horford. For Orlando it consolidates their bad contracts into one contract and a guy who might just entice Dwight Howard to stick around. Dwight and JJ would be a good 1+2 punch.

Thoughts?

[Lucky17]

J. Richardon, Big Baby,  Reddick, Q. Richardon, 1st rounder

For

Joe Johnson


I think it's a trade that makes sense for both teams. For Atlanta it gets them out of a huge contract and gives them more flexibility to build around a younger Horford. For Orlando it consolidates their bad contracts into one contract and a guy who might just entice Dwight Howard to stick around. Dwight and JJ would be a good 1+2 punch.

Thoughts?

Is there another contract they can sub in besides Davis'? Assuming Davis and Howard are such good friends.

Edit: could leave out Davis entirely, and the money matches.

[JSD]

New Look Orlando

C - Dwight Howard
PF - Ryan Anderson
SF - Grant Hill (MLE)
SG - Johnson
PG - Nelson

C - Orton
SG - Wafer
PF - Harper
PF/SF - Turk
SF - Barnes (vet min)
PG - Duhon

[JSD]

J. Richardon, Big Baby,  Reddick, Q. Richardon, 1st rounder

For

Joe Johnson


I think it's a trade that makes sense for both teams. For Atlanta it gets them out of a huge contract and gives them more flexibility to build around a younger Horford. For Orlando it consolidates their bad contracts into one contract and a guy who might just entice Dwight Howard to stick around. Dwight and JJ would be a good 1+2 punch.

Thoughts?

Is there another contract they can sub in besides Davis'? Assuming Davis and Howard are such good friends.

Edit: could leave out Davis entirely, and the money matches.

Yeah, but how deep into the LT is Orlando going to want to go going forward?

[Who]

I think Atlanta's first option should be to add to their current roster. Not break it up.

I'd only break it up if I couldn't find a way to move forward with what they currently have.

[JSD]

I think Atlanta's first option should be to add to their current roster. Not break it up.

I'd only break it up if I couldn't find a way to move forward with what they currently have.

There is no way for that Atlanta team to be put over the top as currently constituted.

[theswitch]

I think Atlanta's first option should be to add to their current roster. Not break it up.

I'd only break it up if I couldn't find a way to move forward with what they currently have.

There is no way for that Atlanta team to be put over the top as currently constituted.

A Smith for Gasol deal would give them a size edge that nobody in the East could really match, outside of Chicago - but they have plenty of issues on their own. You have to remember that outside of Miami, no team in the East is really that scary. We are a huge question-mark, and then the next two teams in terms of talent are New York and Chicago. Indiana, maybe, but all three of those teams can be surpassed.

[action781]

I think it'd be a steal for Orlando, but I don't think Atlanta would do it.  Getting far too little talent and return and they give up 1 crappy contract for several crappy contracts.  While they are smaller contracts, they are still just as crappy b/c of the poor level of talent associated with them.

Atlanta would have to be desperate.  Because I'd rather hang around in mediocrity for a while, then pull the trigger on this deal which will make them terrible while not giving them any even decen assets to build around.

[Who]

I think Atlanta's first option should be to add to their current roster. Not break it up.

I'd only break it up if I couldn't find a way to move forward with what they currently have.

There is no way for that Atlanta team to be put over the top as currently constituted.

An offer of Josh Smith, Jeff Teague and future draft picks would be a very attractive trade package. Or even switch out J.Smith for Al Horford for a player good enough to warrant it.

I was very disappointed in their lack of trade activity in pursuing star talent trading in recent seasons. Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony and now Dwight Howard. I think they could have made a strong offer for any one of them and can still do so for stars who become available in the future.

Or,

As an alternative, trying to trade an expiring contract like Kirk Hinrich + some combination of future picks and/or Jeff Teague for a low level star. Someone who is an above average starter but a notch below All-Star level. A fourth impact guy to go alongside Joe Johnson, Al Horford and Josh Smith.

I think both options are good options to upgrade their current talent base and put them closer to title contention. I prefer each one to a partial-to-large rebuilding movement.