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Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2012, 11:45:16 AM »

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Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2012, 12:09:33 PM »

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Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 12:44:59 PM »

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On a more serious note, Jay Bilas mentioned how the Celtics are heavy users of psychological testing when it comes to players. My guess (hope) is that they tested Melo quite high in that respect and that he'll be a guy who will work hard and continue to evolve as a player. His potential is very evident, but the improvement from freshman to sophomore year was profound. If he's got the makeup to continue to work hard on his game and commit to his craft, he can no doubt become a really good player. The sky would be the limit. Perkins with a lot more skill and mobility... I don't love the pick, so that is my hope.

If that's the case...With some of the guys they've drafted...They should confirm their psychologists' Acme University diplomas.

Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 12:50:25 PM »

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I think they were willing to take the chance on either Sullinger or PJ3, but not necessarily both. So they had to choose between the two. But how did they come to that decision?

I was hoping Ainge was willing to take both, but I could see why, if there was only one "risk" that was acceptable to take, Sullinger was the pick.

Still, part of me wishes the picks had been Sullinger, Jones, and Sacre at #51.
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Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 12:55:41 PM »

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Quote
Xρs∑k+0∞Yk(k−1)akρk−2m+2z^12(s+1)ρs−1∑k-N*0∞kakρk−1*h−9ρs∑k+0∞kakρk−1+(η−1−s)ρs−1∑k/0∞akρk+[s(s+1)−l(l+1)]ρs−2∑k, f(x)0∞akρk=?

I won't bore you with all the details, but just for an idea to get a quick handle on the above:

x= wingspan expressed in centimeters
y = age in months
m = vertical leap
f = conference strength
h = a score based on a proprietary exam called "Hoopsaptitude" developed for the Celtics at MIT

All that mathematical nonsense to do what anyone with a modicum of basketball knowledge could do with two fully functioning eyes?  Seriously, who's to say the data used to create the formula is even the right data?

I bet I could come up with a formula too.  Might even get a few picks right every now and then.

So here's MY formula:

A= # of years in college
E= Jersey # of college team
F= Final AP rank of college team from player's last season
G= Shoe size (US)
I= # of seconds player can hold breath under water
N= Total # of letters in player's full leagal name
U= Numerical value determined from equation using the digits from player's birth date (((M+M)*(D+D))/(Y+Y+Y+Y))

Edit: No masked profanity. - Chris  

Yeah, that should work!


Oh, come on!  I've seen that used on this site numerous times without it being edited.  I thought it was pretty darn clever.
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Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 12:57:42 PM »

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Xρs∑k+0∞Yk(k−1)akρk−2m+2z^12(s+1)ρs−1∑k-N*0∞kakρk−1*h−9ρs∑k+0∞kakρk−1+(η−1−s)ρs−1∑k/0∞akρk+[s(s+1)−l(l+1)]ρs−2∑k, f(x)0∞akρk=?

I won't bore you with all the details, but just for an idea to get a quick handle on the above:

x= wingspan expressed in centimeters
y = age in months
m = vertical leap
f = conference strength
h = a score based on a proprietary exam called "Hoopsaptitude" developed for the Celtics at MIT

All that mathematical nonsense to do what anyone with a modicum of basketball knowledge could do with two fully functioning eyes?  Seriously, who's to say the data used to create the formula is even the right data?

I bet I could come up with a formula too.  Might even get a few picks right every now and then.

So here's MY formula:

A= # of years in college
E= Jersey # of college team
F= Final AP rank of college team from player's last season
G= Shoe size (US)
I= # of seconds player can hold breath under water
N= Total # of letters in player's full leagal name
U= Numerical value determined from equation using the digits from player's birth date (((M+M)*(D+D))/(Y+Y+Y+Y))

edit: No Masked Profanity - Chris

Yeah, that should work!

I is quite important.  Shows a direct correlation to stamina.
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Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2012, 01:06:46 PM »

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The truth is , for one , PJ3 s knee issue is potentially my h more serious than Sullingers back issue. Second, Sullinger doesn't relie on athleticism, so he can still produce through limitations from an injury, PJ3 would be completely useless without his athletic ability , which his knee issue might rob

Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2012, 01:23:10 PM »

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NOOO!!! They forgot to rectify the wingspan function when they renormalized the gazelle coefficient!! In covariant form, ∞Yk(k−1)akρk simplifies to ln(Yk(k−1)!aρk) and the answer is...

f(x)0∞akρk =  Jae Crowder

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Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2012, 02:36:11 PM »

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Danny Ainge knew his calculus, and when he called Jared Sullinger he said: U + ME = US.
Shouldn't that be U + C = 18

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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2012, 02:58:30 PM »

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I particularly loved the Giddens footnote.

Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2012, 03:51:36 PM »

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I'm fine with choosing Sullinger.

Choosing Melo over Jones is the decision I object to. Violently.

like what's been said, i think the celtics only wanted to roll with 1 talented player with injury concerns. theres also the fact that pj3 is kinda redundant with green and jjj. what do you want to do, stack the lineup with 6 power forwards?

Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2012, 07:20:25 PM »

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I think they were willing to take the chance on either Sullinger or PJ3, but not necessarily both. So they had to choose between the two. But how did they come to that decision?

I was hoping Ainge was willing to take both, but I could see why, if there was only one "risk" that was acceptable to take, Sullinger was the pick.

Still, part of me wishes the picks had been Sullinger, Jones, and Sacre at #51.

To be honest, me too. Not crazy about Melo and really wanted White. KJ at 51 seems OK, but would have been happy to roll that pick forward a year via trade as well as we are carrying 5 first and second year guys now. White, Sullinger and a trade out would have been great. PJ3 at least you can say got passed on by a ton of teams and taken by a team that has the ability to wait on him for a while. His injury concerns sound more significant to Sullinger's.

Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2012, 07:27:05 PM »

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U lost me at sabremetrics :P

Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2012, 07:44:36 PM »

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I'm fine with choosing Sullinger.

Choosing Melo over Jones is the decision I object to. Violently.

Ditto!
I think that we could have taken PJ3 and picked up Melo later in the draft.
Wouldn't have taken much to make a trade.
Still, Melo may indeed surprise us.

One thing for sure.  If he plays poorly, he's gonna hear it.
If he plays well, Boston will adore him.

Sullinger was a no brainer.
PJ3 is gonna be very very good.

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Re: Sullinger vs PJ3 -- the truth about that decision
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2012, 08:03:54 PM »

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great post edwardo. i was going to give you a tp, but i ran my decision through your formula and it said not to give one....sorry.

however, i am sure your nobel prize in math is in the mail.  ;D
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