Would Danny move Pierce tonight for GSW's 7th pick?

[Cman]

Pierce is still a good player who can contribute, but he doesn't have a good deal -- he's owed a lot of money over the next two years, and is clearly on the "decline"

I just don't see how that is enticing to a team like GSW.

OTOH, I could see how it would be enticing to a team like OKC, LAC, or some other team that is close to competing for a ring (or thinks they are, in the latter case), and wants a vet to help them get there.

In short, I think it is highly highly highly unlikely that Pierce gets traded. There just arent many takers out there.

[theswitch]

The Pierce-to-Golden State scenario has another layer to it; GSW doesn't have the cap room to just absorb his contract.

The most likely trade would be:

Boston sends: Paul Pierce, our 1sts
GSW sends: Richard Jefferson, Dorrel Wright, #7

and I gotta say, me no likey that.

I'd have to think that we'd get to keep the picks in exchange for taking on those contracts. That might tilt the trade back in our favor.

Maybe. I guess.

Still not the home run I'd like. I'm not going to easily get on board for 2 years of people trying to tell me Richard Jefferson isn't hot garbage on a summer day.

Not at all. Wright I can get behind a little, especially if it means we get one of MKG, Drummond, Robinson or Beal, but Richard Jefferson? He's mayonnaise ice cream, he's a paper cut at 9:15 AM on a monday. He's the opposite of Batman.

Yeah, that's fair. Wright has some talent but Jefferson isn't fun to have around. And it'd be tough to have those two, MKG/Barnes, Green and Pietrus all on the same roster. Something would have to give.

[LarBrd33]

The Pierce-to-Golden State scenario has another layer to it; GSW doesn't have the cap room to just absorb his contract.

The most likely trade would be:

Boston sends: Paul Pierce, our 1sts
GSW sends: Richard Jefferson, Dorrel Wright, #7

and I gotta say, me no likey that.

Yeah... trading pierce for a draft pick only makes sense if we are shedding his 16.5 mil contract... which would open up additional flexibility to add another player.  Fact is, there isn't ANYONE we can trade for that will add more to the team than Pierce will for the next 2 years.  Long-term, of course... but short-term... no way.  Pierce is still an elite player.

[CoachBo]

Will. Not. Happen.

[theswitch]

I don't think GSW would trade the 7th for 2-years of a disgruntled declining Pierce.

Pierce+ 21st pick?

Pierce+ Bradley for 7th and 30th picks?

And still have the 21st + 22nd? NOW THATS A REBUILD and im down for it.

Why? If we think that Pierce for the 7th pick is more or less fair, or even close to fair, then we are essentially saying Bradley is worth probably a little bit more, or equal to, the 30th pick. That's just insane and bad business.

[theswitch]

The Pierce-to-Golden State scenario has another layer to it; GSW doesn't have the cap room to just absorb his contract.

The most likely trade would be:

Boston sends: Paul Pierce, our 1sts
GSW sends: Richard Jefferson, Dorrel Wright, #7

and I gotta say, me no likey that.

Yeah... trading pierce for a draft pick only makes sense if we are shedding his 16.5 mil contract... which would open up additional flexibility to add another player.  Fact is, there isn't ANYONE we can trade for that will add more to the team than Pierce will for the next 2 years.  Long-term, of course... but short-term... no way.  Pierce is still an elite player.

The long-term would obviously be the goal with that type of move. You'd set yourself up with probably a lottery pick next year to pair with Rondo, Bradley and whoever you pick this year in the top 10. It's not an elite core, but it's a core.

[SCBirdman]

IF Danny knows or believes KG is NOT coming back, then I think he blows it up and deals Pierce, probably to SAC for Tyreke and #5. Build around Rondo, Bradley, and the picks, then we will have a load of $$$ for FA, make a big offer to Roy Hibbert or McGee. Maybe Harrison Barnes is there at 5. If we keep 21 and/or 22, draft the best available players to go with what you get at 5. If its Nicholson and Sullinger and you get Barnes at 5, its a great night for the future of the Cs.

[Quetzalcoatl]

If we were to trade Pierce, I would feel a lot less guilty about it if he were to go to California.  Doubly so if KG retires.  Pierce will probably move there when he retires in a few years, anyway. 

If we could then draft Harrison Barnes or Drummond there, it would have to make you think.  The scary thing is just what salary we would have to take on from the Warriors, they have some awful contracts.  I think I would prefer Biendris to Jefferson, just to tank.

[Moranis]

I could easily see that trade from both teams if KG is in fact retiring.  Don't think that move is made if KG says he is coming back.

[blackbird]

Really hope it doesn't happen, but if it does I'd hope to get Andrew Bogut in return. I love the idea of pairing him on the front line with KG.

[T-LoDaniels]

I could easily see that trade from both teams if KG is in fact retiring.  Don't think that move is made if KG says he is coming back.

Yeah. Everything hinges on KG's decision to stay or not

[Greg]

I would move Pierce for the seventh or fifth pick, but only when Sacramento or Golden State were on the clock, and only under the following conditions:

1. KG is Not Returning: I don't see Boston as a contender in 12-13 without KG, so if Ainge has strong indications he won't be returning, then I see blowing it up as a very realistic option. This is likely the last offseason to get good value for Paul Pierce.

MKG, Barnes, or Drummond have to be available:I see Barnes as the best Pierce replacement, as I think he can easily be a 20 PPG scorer in this league.  Love his outside shot and fadeaway game.  MKG is a little more raw, but is more explosive going to the basket and has better defensive potential.  Drummond would be a plan C.

Celtics Keep Bradley in the Deal: I'm not a fan of entering rebuilding mode without our best long-term prospect in Bradley.  Rondo is an established star, so I'm obviously not including him in that group.

[celts55]

Okay, I'm ready to get dumped on, but did anyone here watch the playoffs? I'm sorry, I love Pierce as much as I can love a man I guess, but he was pretty awful. I kept waiting for him to have a big game, but it did not happen. If Labron played like that in game 7 all you would here about is he choaked again.

So what makes people think that someone would give up Tyreke and a #5 for a guy on the decline that is grossly overpaid for the next 2 years? I could be wrong, but I really think this is yet another case of fans over valuing their own players. I personally think you would have a hard time finding some team that would want to take on his contract much less give up a #5 or #7 plus whatever. Maybe it was a bad knee, but he really looked old.

Maybe if some team thought he was the final piece to build a championship they might offer you something, but I think these idea floating around here are unrealistic.

Sorry, that's just how I see it.

[manl_lui]

I would move Pierce for the seventh or fifth pick, but only when Sacramento or Golden State were on the clock, and only under the following conditions:

1. KG is Not Returning: I don't see Boston as a contender in 12-13 without KG, so if Ainge has strong indications he won't be returning, then I see blowing it up as a very realistic option. This is likely the last offseason to get good value for Paul Pierce.

MKG, Barnes, or Drummond have to be available:I see Barnes as the best Pierce replacement, as I think he can easily be a 20 PPG scorer in this league.  Love his outside shot and fadeaway game.  MKG is a little more raw, but is more explosive going to the basket and has better defensive potential.  Drummond would be a plan C.

Celtics Keep Bradley in the Deal: I'm not a fan of entering rebuilding mode without our best long-term prospect in Bradley.  Rondo is an established star, so I'm obviously not including him in that group.

I also think this is the case. KG is the key here. I think we all here including Danny, think there is one more run with this Celtics team but only if KG comes back. If Pierce does get traded today for a pick, then I think KG retiring is only a matter of time.

[mctyson]

Will. Not. Happen.