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Offline bfrombleacher

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They're projected all over the place after gold, silver, bronze (Davis, Drummond, Thomas) and the runner ups (Zeller and Leonard). Can someone give me a quick summary on them?

Which one's the best?

Are they worth trading up for if they are at about 16, 17, 18?

Who'll most likely be in the 20's (our range. I think Nicholson might be? Although the mocks are so messy)?

Ceilings? Worst cases? Most likely case?


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Re: Educate me on Arnett Moultrie, John Henson and Andrew Nicholson
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 11:36:03 AM »

Offline henr1k

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Henson is a great shot blocker, good defender. He isn't polished offensively but can hit open jumper. There are some concerns about his toughness and his lack of strength. His frame won't allow him to add too much weight. He will be a lottery pick for sure. Most mocks have him going to Detroit.

Best case scenario: Camby

Nicholson doesn’t have physical strength or athleticism to be a lottery pick but he is a good post scorer, has range (even 3pt). He has a good motor, is a solid rebounder with 7'4 wingspan. He is a good value at late first round. I would be excited if C's got him.

Best case scenario: David West

Moultrie has great size and athleticism for a PF, great rebounder. Concerns about him are: poor defender, bad teammate (called out his teammates after losses) with character questions. If I have to choose a bust/disappointment from this draft he would be high on the list. IMO he is one of those guys with all the talent in the world but character/bad work ethic won't allow him to excel at the next level. I think he ends up being like Earl Clark.

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Offline BleedGreen1989

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Henson is a great shot blocker, good defender. He isn't polished offensively but can hit open jumper. There are some concerns about his toughness and his lack of strength. His frame won't allow him to add too much weight. He will be a lottery pick for sure. Most mocks have him going to Detroit.

Best case scenario: Camby

Nicholson doesn’t have physical strength or athleticism to be a lottery pick but he is a good post scorer, has range (even 3pt). He has a good motor, is a solid rebounder with 7'4 wingspan. He is a good value at late first round. I would be excited if C's got him.

Best case scenario: David West

Moultrie has great size and athleticism for a PF, great rebounder. Concerns about him are: poor defender, bad teammate (called out his teammates after losses) with character questions. If I have to choose a bust/disappointment from this draft he would be high on the list. IMO he is one of those guys with all the talent in the world but character/bad work ethic won't allow him to excel at the next level. I think he ends up being like Earl Clark.

I'm gonna take a second to stick up for Moultrie, he's one of my hopefuls for Boston to select. First off, his whole "bad teammate" thing was him calling out some teammates for not trying hard enough and for having their own agendas. He never dropped any names just spoke in generalization. Anybody who watched this team knows what he was talking about. It was accurate and necessary.

Remember when rondo called out his teammates a couple seasons ago? Did anybody think he was a bad teammate? No, sometimes leaders need to call people out.

It's the draft so of course every player could be a "bust" but Arnett has far too much talent to fail. As far as the Earl Clark comparison Earl is awful offensively and that's where Arnett shines.

He has been knocked for his body language which is valid but MS was an awful situation last year and Arnett still shined.
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 12:03:04 PM »

Offline henr1k

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@BleedGreen1989: Only time will tell, he certainly won't be available when C's pick so Danny won't have to make the call.

And btw, Rondo was a BAD teammate and still is a high maintenance guy. Remember when cameras caught Doc saying: "Do you realize your teammates hate to play with you".


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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 12:18:43 PM »

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Henson is a great shot blocker, good defender. He isn't polished offensively but can hit open jumper. There are some concerns about his toughness and his lack of strength. His frame won't allow him to add too much weight. He will be a lottery pick for sure. Most mocks have him going to Detroit.

Best case scenario: Camby

Nicholson doesn’t have physical strength or athleticism to be a lottery pick but he is a good post scorer, has range (even 3pt). He has a good motor, is a solid rebounder with 7'4 wingspan. He is a good value at late first round. I would be excited if C's got him.

Best case scenario: David West

Moultrie has great size and athleticism for a PF, great rebounder. Concerns about him are: poor defender, bad teammate (called out his teammates after losses) with character questions. If I have to choose a bust/disappointment from this draft he would be high on the list. IMO he is one of those guys with all the talent in the world but character/bad work ethic won't allow him to excel at the next level. I think he ends up being like Earl Clark.

While I agree with most assessments I disagree with Moultrie.

While he had some spats in MSU, lets remember that that program has knuckheads to begin with. He was basically calling out his team to play better. He does play out of control sometimes.

I disagree that he's like Earl Clark. I would go as far as to say he's the closest to KG in this draft, minus the the ultra high competitiveness and defensive qualities. Moultrie is a good offensive player. He has post stuff, mid range game, and knows where to position under the rim. He's an excellent rebounder. He's not a very good defender though. But those and the character issues could be worked out with a veteran team surrounding him. I'd really like to have him more than the other two.
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Offline celticsfan8591

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Is there anyone who has seen Moultrie play?  I haven't but from what I've read I don't get why he's not projected to go higher.  He has great size and athelticism for a PF, a high skill level, and was a very productive college player. I would think a guy like that would be a top 10 pick for sure.  Am I missing something here?

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As a Tarheel fan I would like to add one thing about John Henson.  He has gotten considerably better each season at North Carolina.

If the Celtics can get him, they should, he has huge potential.

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@BleedGreen1989: Only time will tell, he certainly won't be available when C's pick so Danny won't have to make the call.

And btw, Rondo was a BAD teammate and still is a high maintenance guy. Remember when cameras caught Doc saying: "Do you realize your teammates hate to play with you".



Yea that's true, unless Danny moves up there's no way he'll be wearing green next year
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Is there anyone who has seen Moultrie play?  I haven't but from what I've read I don't get why he's not projected to go higher.  He has great size and athelticism for a PF, a high skill level, and was a very productive college player. I would think a guy like that would be a top 10 pick for sure.  Am I missing something here?

his defense is a big question mark. He would've been top 5 if he at least have a solid defense. We're talking about Carlos Boozer stuff.
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Offline anthony83

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I would like Andrew Nicholson, has some incredible moves reminds me of Big Al, and bridging the gap Hakeen.

  He has to be a C's, I'm not following the draft, but I just saw his highlights on youtube and it was amazing, man is Andrew Nicholson.

In draftexpress he appears in the pick 24, I think this player has to be minimum in the top 5.

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