Free Agent C or C/PF

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Spencer Hawes.

He can solve most of the rebounding problem. And he fits quite well. He's like a longer but less athletic Bass. He can hit shots from midrange, which can open up the floor for Rondo. Solid interior defender.

Only problem, like Ilyasova, he's looking for a payday. It'll be tough to sign him.

[T-LoDaniels]

Spencer Hawes.

He can solve most of the rebounding problem. And he fits quite well. He's like a longer but less athletic Bass. He can hit shots from midrange, which can open up the floor for Rondo. Solid interior defender.

Only problem, like Ilyasova, he's looking for a payday. It'll be tough to sign him.

Hawes is absolutely horrible. Garnett absolutely destroyed him in our series against him. Lavoy Allen was ten times the better defender... That says it all really. He just looks good because he can hit jumpers

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Spencer Hawes.

He can solve most of the rebounding problem. And he fits quite well. He's like a longer but less athletic Bass. He can hit shots from midrange, which can open up the floor for Rondo. Solid interior defender.

Only problem, like Ilyasova, he's looking for a payday. It'll be tough to sign him.

Hawes is absolutely horrible. Garnett absolutely destroyed him in our series against him. Lavoy Allen was ten times the better defender... That says it all really. He just looks good because he can hit jumpers

KG is a PF playing Center. Hawes was a mitmatch. He's slower than KG and not only that, he can never stay in the lane because KG is always floating outside the paint area. KG owned him because it's a mismatch. He's good against traditional Centers.

[T-LoDaniels]

Spencer Hawes.

He can solve most of the rebounding problem. And he fits quite well. He's like a longer but less athletic Bass. He can hit shots from midrange, which can open up the floor for Rondo. Solid interior defender.

Only problem, like Ilyasova, he's looking for a payday. It'll be tough to sign him.

Hawes is absolutely horrible. Garnett absolutely destroyed him in our series against him. Lavoy Allen was ten times the better defender... That says it all really. He just looks good because he can hit jumpers

KG is a PF playing Center. Hawes was a mitmatch. He's slower than KG and not only that, he can never stay in the lane because KG is always floating outside the paint area. KG owned him because it's a mismatch. He's good against traditional Centers.

It's not just against Garnett. He's very susceptible defending the pick and roll because his foot speed is so slow. Doesn't rotate well either. The Sixers fans have watched him many more than we have, and they are absolutely FED UP with him, saying Vucevic should be ahead of him in their pecking order. That's not a very good thing

[bfrombleacher]

Spencer Hawes.

He can solve most of the rebounding problem. And he fits quite well. He's like a longer but less athletic Bass. He can hit shots from midrange, which can open up the floor for Rondo. Solid interior defender.

Only problem, like Ilyasova, he's looking for a payday. It'll be tough to sign him.

Hawes is absolutely horrible. Garnett absolutely destroyed him in our series against him. Lavoy Allen was ten times the better defender... That says it all really. He just looks good because he can hit jumpers

KG is a PF playing Center. Hawes was a mitmatch. He's slower than KG and not only that, he can never stay in the lane because KG is always floating outside the paint area. KG owned him because it's a mismatch. He's good against traditional Centers.

It's not just against Garnett. He's very susceptible defending the pick and roll because his foot speed is so slow. Doesn't rotate well either. The Sixers fans have watched him many more than we have, and they are absolutely FED UP with him, saying Vucevic should be ahead of him in their pecking order. That's not a very good thing

Does that mean we can have him for cheap? I think he'll be like Perk. Centers benefit from playing with Rondo and the big three (or two if Ray leaves).

[Dchuck]

Lopez brothers (like Robin more than Brook but who doesn't)

For the same money? I'll take Brook thanks. At least he scores while not rebounding and knows how to get a haircut.

Scratch Free Agent and add "available". Here is my list (and reasons):

Asik (doesn't have to shoot to be effective)
Steimsma (cheap, Garnett likes him)
Hawes (solid scoring, good size, might come cheap)
Jefferson (post scoring and rebounding, young-ish)
Okafor (take his contact for pick #32 + future 1st?)

My preference is Asik because I like his size and post defense but I will say guys like Jefferson allure me with post scoring. I think if Garnett resigns we just need big bodies who can move their feet.

Draft (assume Drummond, Leonard and Zeller are gone and we didn't trade up):

Moultrie
Nicholson

I personally don't like rookie centers. Not enough bulk or practice in an NBA system. Asik has my vote.

Here, here!

Asik with Garnett, deadly defensive combo! 

Asik would add toughness, size, length, rebounding, youth, athleticism, can run the floor, quick on defensive rotations.....hmmmmm, actually EVERYTHING WE NEED!

This would take care of PG, SG and Center for the forseeable future, now you can add positions 2-4 through the draft, FAs (Green, etc.)

Get 'er done Danny!

[goCeltics]

following from the ainge interview on weei, don't think ainge rates the major free agents(ilyasova etc). I'll be a bit hesitated with ersan cause he has done it for one year only.  think they try and bring back kg, green and ray using their bird rights, then use the MLE and Bi annual to get 2 bigs. Think bass wants a long term deal and ainge won't bug. Think green, kg and ray might come back on shorten deals 1-2 years because jeff is coming off heart surgery and kg and ray and only a few years left and can be offered no trade clauses.

Now if you wanna bring back steamer you need some of the MLE money cause the c's don't have his bird rights, i think around 2 mill per is all i would go. They should leave about 3 mill of the MLE left, and 2.5mill of the bi annual, which i would target the following with camby, jordan hill, anthony randolph (if sota didn't offer a qualifling offer), mahinmi and wilcox (the c's lost his bird rights to when they waived him).

Don't forget krstic who the c's have bird rights to.

[FrDrake]

Lopez brothers (like Robin more than Brook but who doesn't)

For the same money? I'll take Brook thanks. At least he scores while not rebounding and knows how to get a haircut.

Scratch Free Agent and add "available". Here is my list (and reasons):

Asik (doesn't have to shoot to be effective)
Steimsma (cheap, Garnett likes him)
Hawes (solid scoring, good size, might come cheap)
Jefferson (post scoring and rebounding, young-ish)
Okafor (take his contact for pick #32 + future 1st?)

My preference is Asik because I like his size and post defense but I will say guys like Jefferson allure me with post scoring. I think if Garnett resigns we just need big bodies who can move their feet.

Draft (assume Drummond, Leonard and Zeller are gone and we didn't trade up):

Moultrie
Nicholson

I personally don't like rookie centers. Not enough bulk or practice in an NBA system. Asik has my vote.

Here, here!

Asik with Garnett, deadly defensive combo!  

Asik would add toughness, size, length, rebounding, youth, athleticism, can run the floor, quick on defensive rotations.....hmmmmm, actually EVERYTHING WE NEED!

This would take care of PG, SG and Center for the forseeable future, now you can add positions 2-4 through the draft, FAs (Green, etc.)

Get 'er done Danny!

I also support the push to sign Asik.  He has good hands, great size, decent mobility, he rebounds(!) and plays D.  He's only getting better and has earned minutes in Thib's system which means the transition to the Cs would be an easy one.  

IMO Asik is the only young free agent worth signing to a relatively generous long-term contract.  

[LooseCannon]

Now if you wanna bring back steamer you need some of the MLE money cause the c's don't have his bird rights, i think around 2 mill per is all i would go. They should leave about 3 mill of the MLE left, and 2.5mill of the bi annual, which i would target the following with camby, jordan hill, anthony randolph (if sota didn't offer a qualifling offer), mahinmi and wilcox (the c's lost his bird rights to when they waived him).

If you wanted/needed to give Stiemsma more than the minimum, why wouldn't you try to use the biannual exception on him and leave yourself with the full MLE?

[billysan]

Asik, Krstic and Wilcox are the best options in no particular order. Marcus Camby would be great, but he is a health risk.

Asik is a tougher Semih Erden IMO. Prob can get him for the 'midlevel'.

Krstic will want 7-8 million per and probably be difficult to sign.

Wilcox played well for us and I think we can get him back, but there is a question of his health for me. He is a guy I would love as a backup, rotational big that can guard a lot of guys and does rebound well. Add in the bonus that he knows our guys and our defense and he becomes attractive.

Even if we somehow draft a stud center, he wont see the floor under Doc unless we are desparate. I hopw JJJ sees some action this year. Summer league should be interesting.

[More Banners]

I would be happy with Krystic and Wilcox, given the talent available.  I don't think they're worse than anyone else available.

And since we can resign either without crazy cap math screwing things up, all the better.

But I'm still not crazy about KG at PF any more.  He belongs in the paint (and perhaps always has).

[moiso]

Dunno.  I'd still like to take a chance on Oden, though.  Lol.  That would still excite me if it happened.  Plus, I still feel bad for the few Boston fans who created custom Oden Celtic jerseys before the 2007 lotto.  Custom jerseys can be spendy to buy...  I want to see them get some use out of them.  :-P

Oden said he wanted to play for Miami, you know because all the BFF's play in Miami. And you know they are getting rid of Miller this year to do so. Very slim chance he'd come here.

Oden says he is going to sit out next year anyway and come back the following year.

[billysan]

I would be happy with Krystic and Wilcox, given the talent available.  I don't think they're worse than anyone else available.

And since we can resign either without crazy cap math screwing things up, all the better.

But I'm still not crazy about KG at PF any more.  He belongs in the paint (and perhaps always has).

Agree with you and I should point out that we need both Wilcox and Krstic, or at least one of them to back up Asik. KG can start at PF but he will still play significant minutes at the C position.

I think he needs to "think" he is a PF for some reason. No problem, lets humor him and we need the depth of bigs anyway. Only problem is to sign two of these guys will use up most if not all our left over cap space I bet.

That is assuming we can even re-sign KG, Green and maybe Ray. Also means we dont keep Bass because of money. Green or maybe JJJ becomes the backup PF. Feels kinda thin because I dont see Doc playing a rookie much in that role.

[Yogi]

Kristic would be a good sign and trade candidate.  Kristic and Bass with our draft picks enough for Smith?  ATL would have front line of Horford and Kristic backed by Bass and Pachulia and 3 first rounders to move up.
Celtics will have Rondo, Bradley, Green and Smith to build around for the future and add talent for another run with Big 3.

[Change]

Keep our FA's

1)Chris Wilcox
2)Greg Stiemsma
3)Brandon Bass
4)Grab a Center in the Draft

Garnett/Bass/Johnson
Wilcox/Stiemsma/Rookie