Avery Bradley trade idea

[buckeyefan55]

Before I get to the trade idea, I just wanted to say that I have no reason to believe this would actually happen, although I certainly wouldn't mind it.

Boston receives: Marcus Morris, the 16th pick in the 2012 draft, and the rights to Donatos Motijuenas.

Houston receives: Avery Bradley, the 51st pick in the 2012 draft, and maybe cash considerations to seal the deal.

Why Boston does it: Boston would get two big men and another first round pick to accelerate the youth movement, and it allows for even more flexibility in our draft selections.

Why Houston does it: Houston get's a lockdown defender and someone with an incredibly high ceiling to replace Dragic and provide them with valuable perimiter defense. With the 51st pick they can stash someone overseas to compensate for the loss of Motiejuenas.

Then Boston's draft could look something like this

16: Jared Sullinger, PF/C, OSU
21: Quincy Miller, SF, Baylor
22: Tony Wroten, PG/SG, Washington

What do you guys think? Would either team say no? Is it too many first round picks? Would Doc attempt to consolidate some of those young assets/picks into a single, much higher pick?

[CFAN38]

I like AB better then the combo of

Marcus Morris, the 16th pick in the 2012 draft, and the rights to Donatos Motijuenas.

[sofutomygaha]

but... but... I like Avery Bradley!!!

[slamtheking]

I like Bradley more then I like any of those players.

[mctyson]

Before I get to the trade idea, I just wanted to say that I have no reason to believe this would actually happen, although I certainly wouldn't mind it.

Boston receives: Marcus Morris, the 16th pick in the 2012 draft, and the rights to Donatos Motijuenas.

Houston receives: Avery Bradley, the 51st pick in the 2012 draft, and maybe cash considerations to seal the deal.

Why Boston does it: Boston would get two big men and another first round pick to accelerate the youth movement, and it allows for even more flexibility in our draft selections.

Why Houston does it: Houston get's a lockdown defender and someone with an incredibly high ceiling to replace Dragic and provide them with valuable perimiter defense. With the 51st pick they can stash someone overseas to compensate for the loss of Motiejuenas.

Then Boston's draft could look something like this

16: Jared Sullinger, PF/C, OSU
21: Quincy Miller, SF, Baylor
22: Tony Wroten, PG/SG, Washington

What do you guys think? Would either team say no? Is it too many first round picks? Would Doc attempt to consolidate some of those young assets/picks into a single, much higher pick?

Boston would say no.  I think AB is as untouchable as Rondo is at this point:  we are only trading him for a shot at a perennial All Star.  AB will be on the All NBA Defensive team next year.

This trade only happens if KG, Ray, and Pierce are all gone off the team, and Danny really decides to go young.

[colincb]

Well Morris hasn't done squat, so I want to do this deal to trade a guy who is at the least a rotation player with elite defensive skills for a mid-teen pick and a guy who has chosen to stay in Europe so far?

I'll take Bradley, though I'm not as sold on him as most here being a starting Shooting Guard.

[colincb]

Before I get to the trade idea, I just wanted to say that I have no reason to believe this would actually happen, although I certainly wouldn't mind it.

Boston receives: Marcus Morris, the 16th pick in the 2012 draft, and the rights to Donatos Motijuenas.

Houston receives: Avery Bradley, the 51st pick in the 2012 draft, and maybe cash considerations to seal the deal.

Why Boston does it: Boston would get two big men and another first round pick to accelerate the youth movement, and it allows for even more flexibility in our draft selections.

Why Houston does it: Houston get's a lockdown defender and someone with an incredibly high ceiling to replace Dragic and provide them with valuable perimiter defense. With the 51st pick they can stash someone overseas to compensate for the loss of Motiejuenas.

Then Boston's draft could look something like this

16: Jared Sullinger, PF/C, OSU
21: Quincy Miller, SF, Baylor
22: Tony Wroten, PG/SG, Washington

What do you guys think? Would either team say no? Is it too many first round picks? Would Doc attempt to consolidate some of those young assets/picks into a single, much higher pick?

Boston would say no.  I think AB is as untouchable as Rondo is at this point:  we are only trading him for a shot at a perennial All Star.  AB will be on the All NBA Defensive team next year.

This trade only happens if KG, Ray, and Pierce are all gone off the team, and Danny really decides to go young.

Perennial all-stars only in return?

Bradley had the 2nd worst NBA efficiency in the playoffs for players with >20 mpg.  I'll grant that the injury could have affected his shooting, but for those who were wondering how he'd do when the opposition paid attention to him, he didn't do well.  Defensively he's great, but the jury's out on his offense and if it's as bad as it was during the playoffs, then how do you start him for the long-term with Rondo?

He's not on the same level as Rondo by a long shot.

[BballTim]

Before I get to the trade idea, I just wanted to say that I have no reason to believe this would actually happen, although I certainly wouldn't mind it.

Boston receives: Marcus Morris, the 16th pick in the 2012 draft, and the rights to Donatos Motijuenas.

Houston receives: Avery Bradley, the 51st pick in the 2012 draft, and maybe cash considerations to seal the deal.

Why Boston does it: Boston would get two big men and another first round pick to accelerate the youth movement, and it allows for even more flexibility in our draft selections.

Why Houston does it: Houston get's a lockdown defender and someone with an incredibly high ceiling to replace Dragic and provide them with valuable perimiter defense. With the 51st pick they can stash someone overseas to compensate for the loss of Motiejuenas.

Then Boston's draft could look something like this

16: Jared Sullinger, PF/C, OSU
21: Quincy Miller, SF, Baylor
22: Tony Wroten, PG/SG, Washington

What do you guys think? Would either team say no? Is it too many first round picks? Would Doc attempt to consolidate some of those young assets/picks into a single, much higher pick?

Boston would say no.  I think AB is as untouchable as Rondo is at this point:  we are only trading him for a shot at a perennial All Star.  AB will be on the All NBA Defensive team next year.

This trade only happens if KG, Ray, and Pierce are all gone off the team, and Danny really decides to go young.

Perennial all-stars only in return?

Bradley had the 2nd worst NBA efficiency in the playoffs for players with >20 mpg.  I'll grant that the injury could have affected his shooting, but for those who were wondering how he'd do when the opposition paid attention to him, he didn't do well.  Defensively he's great, but the jury's out on his offense and if it's as bad as it was during the playoffs, then how do you start him for the long-term with Rondo?

  Needing surgery on both shoulders *could* affect his shooting?

[Carhole]

Before I get to the trade idea, I just wanted to say that I have no reason to believe this would actually happen, although I certainly wouldn't mind it.

Boston receives: Marcus Morris, the 16th pick in the 2012 draft, and the rights to Donatos Motijuenas.

Houston receives: Avery Bradley, the 51st pick in the 2012 draft, and maybe cash considerations to seal the deal.

Why Boston does it: Boston would get two big men and another first round pick to accelerate the youth movement, and it allows for even more flexibility in our draft selections.

Why Houston does it: Houston get's a lockdown defender and someone with an incredibly high ceiling to replace Dragic and provide them with valuable perimiter defense. With the 51st pick they can stash someone overseas to compensate for the loss of Motiejuenas.

Then Boston's draft could look something like this

16: Jared Sullinger, PF/C, OSU
21: Quincy Miller, SF, Baylor
22: Tony Wroten, PG/SG, Washington

What do you guys think? Would either team say no? Is it too many first round picks? Would Doc attempt to consolidate some of those young assets/picks into a single, much higher pick?

Boston would say no.  I think AB is as untouchable as Rondo is at this point:  we are only trading him for a shot at a perennial All Star.  AB will be on the All NBA Defensive team next year.

This trade only happens if KG, Ray, and Pierce are all gone off the team, and Danny really decides to go young.

Perennial all-stars only in return?

Bradley had the 2nd worst NBA efficiency in the playoffs for players with >20 mpg.  I'll grant that the injury could have affected his shooting, but for those who were wondering how he'd do when the opposition paid attention to him, he didn't do well.  Defensively he's great, but the jury's out on his offense and if it's as bad as it was during the playoffs, then how do you start him for the long-term with Rondo?

  Needing surgery on both shoulders *could* affect his shooting?

Good point Tim. And he hit a couple huge shots....baseline jumper against atlanta to break a tie in a must win game. Huge corner 3 vs philly in the last 90 seconds.

I do not care what his per was for the playoffs (in fact the inventor or per in an article when bradley got put on the shelf said that his per meant almost nothing in determining his value during the playoffs) the kid showed me something. He could have played better, but I think he is tough, is not afraid of the moment and gives the team something that not many people can.

I want to see him develop here over the next two years.

[colincb]

Before I get to the trade idea, I just wanted to say that I have no reason to believe this would actually happen, although I certainly wouldn't mind it.

Boston receives: Marcus Morris, the 16th pick in the 2012 draft, and the rights to Donatos Motijuenas.

Houston receives: Avery Bradley, the 51st pick in the 2012 draft, and maybe cash considerations to seal the deal.

Why Boston does it: Boston would get two big men and another first round pick to accelerate the youth movement, and it allows for even more flexibility in our draft selections.

Why Houston does it: Houston get's a lockdown defender and someone with an incredibly high ceiling to replace Dragic and provide them with valuable perimiter defense. With the 51st pick they can stash someone overseas to compensate for the loss of Motiejuenas.

Then Boston's draft could look something like this

16: Jared Sullinger, PF/C, OSU
21: Quincy Miller, SF, Baylor
22: Tony Wroten, PG/SG, Washington

What do you guys think? Would either team say no? Is it too many first round picks? Would Doc attempt to consolidate some of those young assets/picks into a single, much higher pick?

Boston would say no.  I think AB is as untouchable as Rondo is at this point:  we are only trading him for a shot at a perennial All Star.  AB will be on the All NBA Defensive team next year.

This trade only happens if KG, Ray, and Pierce are all gone off the team, and Danny really decides to go young.

Perennial all-stars only in return?

Bradley had the 2nd worst NBA efficiency in the playoffs for players with >20 mpg.  I'll grant that the injury could have affected his shooting, but for those who were wondering how he'd do when the opposition paid attention to him, he didn't do well.  Defensively he's great, but the jury's out on his offense and if it's as bad as it was during the playoffs, then how do you start him for the long-term with Rondo?

  Needing surgery on both shoulders *could* affect his shooting?

Sure.  Is he untouchable?  Is he on the same level as Rondo? Did he perform well in the playoffs?

[Steve from Milford]

If Avery Bradley had stayed in school, he would be coming out in this draft I think he would likely be a top 3 pick. Certainly not much lower.

So trading him for two question marks doesn't make sense. Besides, we have two more draft picks which means we will get some size anyway.

Also, makes no sense in terms of going young as he is young.

[colincb]

If Avery Bradley had stayed in school, he would be coming out in this draft I think he would likely be a top 3 pick. Certainly not much lower.

So trading him for two question marks doesn't make sense. Besides, we have two more draft picks which means we will get some size anyway.

Also, makes no sense in terms of going young as he is young.

I don't see why he'd be a top 3 pick in this draft class based even if he was at Texas for another two years.  Barnes is a great recruiter, but not a great coach.  Bradley was always considered a great defender, but that's not enough to get you drafted that high.

Everything else you said is spot on.  A pick at 16 is a crap shoot pick and we have a veteran young player that is at the least a valuable rotation player and may be more.

[2short]

Bradley has only scratched the surface in terms of all around play.  I posted this on another thread but our starting backcourt will both be all defensive team next year.  That is pretty amazing.  Bradley is one of the best on ball defenders I have every seen in the nba.
So no I wouldn't trade him for that deal, he's young and improving.  Ainge is going to look pretty good on this one.

[CoachBo]

The hyperbole about Bradley is staggering in this thread.

Untouchable? Hardly. Top 3 pick? Hardly. People, he has two surgically repaired shoulders and he's essentially a defensive specialist who is unproven offensively.

He's available if I'm Ainge, but not for the package listed below.

[clover]

The hyperbole about Bradley is staggering in this thread.

Untouchable? Hardly. Top 3 pick? Hardly. People, he has two surgically repaired shoulders and he's essentially a defensive specialist who is unproven offensively.

He's available if I'm Ainge, but not for the package listed below.

If you'd just listened to Ainge on EEI, you wouldn't think Bradley is available.  Spoke very highly about his chance to be really special and referred to his being very efficient offensively in the latter part of last season.