JJJ :" I have gained 10 LBS since being drafted, want to add 5 more "

[Celtics18]

We're hearing talk from Pierce that Avery Bradley was actually thriving in practice last year and just needed PT and confidence to do the same thin in NBA games.  I wonder how JJJ holds up in the few practices the Cs have had this past season.

From what I've seen from Johnson so far in games, he doesn't look strong enough to be a good NBA player.  I was monumentally wrong about Bradley, so I'll reserve judgment until JJJ gets some real rotation minutes. 

I won't move off my initial opinion that Brooks would have been a great addition instead of Johnson, however.  I see Brooks as being a big time scorer for the next decade, and i also seeing him rounding out his one dimensional game as he matures.   

Great typo.

[Celtics18]

His weight doesn't concern me nearly as much as how lost he appeared every time he got minutes.

but so did Avery until he got consistent minutes.  I'm expecting a better showing from him this year.

I keep reading this apples-to-oranges comparison, and I flatly don't buy anyone's conclusion that "because Bradley did, Johnson will." Individuals are different, and Bradley could always defend. JJJ has shown me nothing thus far, and I'm not going to cling to him until he suggests that he might actually be an NBA player. I don't subscribe to the frantic clinging to every single Ainge draft choice that goes on here.

I'm clinging.  What else are we going to do with him?  Straight cut him or trade him for a second round draft choice in 2015?  He may not work out, but I see nothing but potential good in giving him a shot.  As far as I'm concerned, it's a no risk/high reward situation. 

[CoachBo]

I see a wasted roster spot that should have been spent on Brooks, frankly, who already has more value than Johnson.

I have little or no interest in Johnson being a part of the Celtics next year: Waive him, trade him - which will only be possible as filler since he has no league value - whatever, and chalk it up as another Ainge draft mistake.

[Celtics18]

I see a wasted roster spot that should have been spent on Brooks, frankly, who already has more value than Johnson.

I have little or no interest in Johnson being a part of the Celtics next year: Waive him, trade him - which will only be possible as filler since he has no league value - whatever, and chalk it up as another Ainge draft mistake.

I think he'll have a good year.  We'll see. 

[chambers]

I see a wasted roster spot that should have been spent on Brooks, frankly, who already has more value than Johnson.

I have little or no interest in Johnson being a part of the Celtics next year: Waive him, trade him - which will only be possible as filler since he has no league value - whatever, and chalk it up as another Ainge draft mistake.

He's 6 foot 10 and had the 2nd or 3rd highest jump and combined reach in the 2011 draft- he can also shoot a jump shot. Someone with that much lift should be given more than 36 games at 8 minutes a game to prove themselves.
I think it's a little early to chalk him out of our line up, in fact it's quite hilarious that someone would suggest that he's completely useless before he's been given ample opportunity.
So funny if Brooks was on our team because he wouldn't have seen the light of day at the end of the bench.
Put JJJ on the Nets or Bobcats and see how the story goes.
You write as if you're the self proclaimed expert though, and you're entitled to your opinion I just always find myself disagreeing with your basketball 'knowledge' or 'expertise' CoachBo. If I recall, you're one of the die hard anti-Perkins trade critics and you refused to consider any other opinions on the matter either.

[st.jimmy222]

Most (practically 99.9%) of men stop growing vertically by ages 18-19. 

I'm not feeling particularly "special" that I fall into the .1%!!  Somebody owes me 4-5 more years of growing!!   

haha, you and me both brother

[bdm860]

I say go for 10 more, dude is a twig.

yea I'm with you guys, KG weighs 253 and he has a hard time with bangers sometimes. I would like to see JJJ at 235 at least

I need to question this.

KG is 253?  I am really, really, really skeptical about that.  I know that's the number NBA.com lists, but come on now, look at him.

For comparison, Joakim Noah is also listed as 6'11" but his listed weight is 232.

Rasheed Wallace, also 6'11", has a last listed weight of 230.

LaMarcus Aldridge is 6'11" but listed at 240.

Marcus Camby is 6'11" but listed at 235.

Channing Frye is 6'11" but listed at 245.

Charlie Villanueva is 6'11" supposedly out of shape, and just tweeted himself on the scale at 243.5.


No way is KG 253.  Dude has probably never been over 240 in his life.  If anything I'm guessing that's an input error on NBA.com's part (or wherever they got that number from) and they meant 235 but transposed the numbers.

You guys really think KG is 253?

[kozlodoev]

His weight doesn't concern me nearly as much as how lost he appeared every time he got minutes.

but so did Avery until he got consistent minutes.  I'm expecting a better showing from him this year.

It's amazing how people keep getting this backwards. Avery started getting consistent minutes when he stopped looking lost -- not the other way around.

[bdm860]

Now to get back to JJJ.

I might be a little concerned about him gaining weight.

IIRC, Emeka Okafor added like 20lbs of muscle after his rookie year, but then ended up being injured more because his body had trouble handling the extra weight and it also slowed him down.  And this is a guy with an already thick frame that looks like it can handle the extra mass.

In theory, ya adding more weight via muscle is great, but it can really slow you down and hurt your athleticism, and also make you more injury prone.  

And although there were other issues here, didn't Robert Swift do the same thing, added a ton of muscle and could never stay healthy.  Sure he'd probably be constantly injured even without the muscle, but I'm sure all that extra muscle on his frame didn't help.

[Change]

I see a wasted roster spot that should have been spent on Brooks, frankly, who already has more value than Johnson.

I have little or no interest in Johnson being a part of the Celtics next year: Waive him, trade him - which will only be possible as filler since he has no league value - whatever, and chalk it up as another Ainge draft mistake.

He can't be any worse than Ryan Hollins.

[kozlodoev]

I say go for 10 more, dude is a twig.

yea I'm with you guys, KG weighs 253 and he has a hard time with bangers sometimes. I would like to see JJJ at 235 at least

I need to question this.

KG is 253?  I am really, really, really skeptical about that.  I know that's the number NBA.com lists, but come on now, look at him.

For comparison, Joakim Noah is also listed as 6'11" but his listed weight is 232.

Rasheed Wallace, also 6'11", has a last listed weight of 230.

LaMarcus Aldridge is 6'11" but listed at 240.

Marcus Camby is 6'11" but listed at 235.

Channing Frye is 6'11" but listed at 245.

Charlie Villanueva is 6'11" supposedly out of shape, and just tweeted himself on the scale at 243.5.


No way is KG 253.  Dude has probably never been over 240 in his life.  If anything I'm guessing that's an input error on NBA.com's part (or wherever they got that number from) and they meant 235 but transposed the numbers.

You guys really think KG is 253?

You really think KG is 6'11?

[bdm860]

I say go for 10 more, dude is a twig.

yea I'm with you guys, KG weighs 253 and he has a hard time with bangers sometimes. I would like to see JJJ at 235 at least

I need to question this.

KG is 253?  I am really, really, really skeptical about that.  I know that's the number NBA.com lists, but come on now, look at him.

For comparison, Joakim Noah is also listed as 6'11" but his listed weight is 232.

Rasheed Wallace, also 6'11", has a last listed weight of 230.

LaMarcus Aldridge is 6'11" but listed at 240.

Marcus Camby is 6'11" but listed at 235.

Channing Frye is 6'11" but listed at 245.

Charlie Villanueva is 6'11" supposedly out of shape, and just tweeted himself on the scale at 243.5.


No way is KG 253.  Dude has probably never been over 240 in his life.  If anything I'm guessing that's an input error on NBA.com's part (or wherever they got that number from) and they meant 235 but transposed the numbers.

You guys really think KG is 253?

You really think KG is 6'11?

As much as any other player is his listed height.

And then how about David Robinson, listed at 7'1 and 235?  Wouldn't that seem to be more about what KG would weigh?

[Change]

I say go for 10 more, dude is a twig.

yea I'm with you guys, KG weighs 253 and he has a hard time with bangers sometimes. I would like to see JJJ at 235 at least

I need to question this.

KG is 253?  I am really, really, really skeptical about that.  I know that's the number NBA.com lists, but come on now, look at him.

For comparison, Joakim Noah is also listed as 6'11" but his listed weight is 232.

Rasheed Wallace, also 6'11", has a last listed weight of 230.

LaMarcus Aldridge is 6'11" but listed at 240.

Marcus Camby is 6'11" but listed at 235.

Channing Frye is 6'11" but listed at 245.

Charlie Villanueva is 6'11" supposedly out of shape, and just tweeted himself on the scale at 243.5.


No way is KG 253.  Dude has probably never been over 240 in his life.  If anything I'm guessing that's an input error on NBA.com's part (or wherever they got that number from) and they meant 235 but transposed the numbers.

You guys really think KG is 253?

You really think KG is 6'11?

KG is 7'0+. He towers almost all bigmen in the NBA

[kozlodoev]

You guys really think KG is 253?

You really think KG is 6'11?
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As much as any other player is his listed height.
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Maybe -- except other players are typically an inch below their listed height, Garnett is a couple above.

[esel1000]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/261/kevin-garnett

on a side note doc has stated that kg is about 7'1