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Re: Greens value
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2012, 03:34:10 PM »

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Falk is earning his paycheck by stating something that I doubt is true. I believe the number to be closer to what he said at the end of the article, in terms of legitimate interest from teams.

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"We've picked out three or four teams, of which Boston is one, that he has a high level of interest in talking to," Falk said. "I would say that Boston is the incumbent, but I've learned in this business not to assume things. Nothing is guaranteed.
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People forget that Green had to settle for a 1 yr deal at 9M (a figure that was way more than market value) because quite simply the money was not there from other teams. The C's will be in a similar position as last year and will likely give him a 1 yr deal at yearly figure more than last season. I expect him to sign a 1 yr deal at around 5-6M and remain in Boston next season.
Green is an unrestricted free agent.  I'd be shocked if he couldnt get more than that in the open market.  In terms of the surgery, what is the history?  If there is minimal risk, then it will be like it never happened.

Think about it. Jeff Green had trouble securing a long term deal last summer because of his subpar Boston experience. So he took the generous 9M from Ainge for a team friendly 1 year deal. Now those same questions still linger + he had heart surgery + he has also not played a game since last May. Don't let that restricted free agent tag he had last year fool you. If a team really wanted him they would've offered him a multi year deal at that same figure and I doubt Ainge would've sacrificed cap room to match. It would be more than fair for him to accept a 5-6M 1 yr deal offer this summer.

Re: Greens value
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2012, 04:08:28 PM »

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Falk is earning his paycheck by stating something that I doubt is true. I believe the number to be closer to what he said at the end of the article, in terms of legitimate interest from teams.

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"We've picked out three or four teams, of which Boston is one, that he has a high level of interest in talking to," Falk said. "I would say that Boston is the incumbent, but I've learned in this business not to assume things. Nothing is guaranteed.
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People forget that Green had to settle for a 1 yr deal at 9M (a figure that was way more than market value) because quite simply the money was not there from other teams. The C's will be in a similar position as last year and will likely give him a 1 yr deal at yearly figure more than last season. I expect him to sign a 1 yr deal at around 5-6M and remain in Boston next season.
Green is an unrestricted free agent.  I'd be shocked if he couldnt get more than that in the open market.  In terms of the surgery, what is the history?  If there is minimal risk, then it will be like it never happened.

Think about it. Jeff Green had trouble securing a long term deal last summer because of his subpar Boston experience. So he took the generous 9M from Ainge for a team friendly 1 year deal. Now those same questions still linger + he had heart surgery + he has also not played a game since last May. Don't let that restricted free agent tag he had last year fool you. If a team really wanted him they would've offered him a multi year deal at that same figure and I doubt Ainge would've sacrificed cap room to match. It would be more than fair for him to accept a 5-6M 1 yr deal offer this summer.
One big difference this year.  Last year green was a restricted free agent.  A lot of teams won't even bother to kick the tires in that case. 

But hey, it will eventually play out and we'll see what happens.

Re: Greens value
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2012, 04:25:35 PM »

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Why is it that everytime a player on this team is mentioned to be shopped around or leaving, his value goes down amongst fans?  Is it a coping mechanism?

Re: Greens value
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2012, 05:08:06 PM »

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Why is it that everytime a player on this team is mentioned to be shopped around or leaving, his value goes down amongst fans?  Is it a coping mechanism?

coping mechanism huh? We don't want Celtics to be hamstrung overpaying for average player. It's  a road to nowhere Detroit Pistons are perfect example. For the right price I'm sure we all want Jeff Green here.

Re: Greens value
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2012, 05:17:37 PM »

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Wasn't Amare's contract (and therefore Amare's value as a commodity)hard to move because his contract couldn't be insured?

If that was the case because of micro-fracture surgery, what insurance company do you think is going to step up and insure Jeff Green's contract.

To me that means that his market value, based on his inability to be insured alone, should be less. Add to that his one year hiatus from basketball for a life threatening condition, and his value seems to have declined substantially to me, at least for the short term. 

Re: Greens value
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2012, 05:49:57 PM »

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Can the Celtics send him to Sac for Evans?

Or, Jason Thompson.
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Re: Greens value
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2012, 06:13:40 PM »

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Sign and trade.  Sign and trade.

I definitely think he will serve us more value with a sign and trade. Other teams are going to value him higher and probably give him a better contract. We dont need another injury risk, i think we could get a better asset by trading him off.

Re: Greens value
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2012, 06:45:36 PM »

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Can the Celtics send him to Sac for Evans?
why would you want a 6'9 point guard when we have rondo?

Re: Greens value
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2012, 06:48:34 PM »

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Sign and trade.  Sign and trade.

I definitely think he will serve us more value with a sign and trade. Other teams are going to value him higher and probably give him a better contract. We dont need another injury risk, i think we could get a better asset by trading him off.

I agree. There are plenty of wings available projected at 21/22: Harkless, Miller, Ross (probably gone)and my favorite, Taylor.

Re: Greens value
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2012, 06:56:49 PM »

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Can the Celtics send him to Sac for Evans?
why would you want a 6'9 point guard when we have rondo?

Evans is actually 6'5. And he was Small Forward for large portion last year. Very versatile player can easily play 3 positions. C's would be ecstatic flipping Jeff Green for Tyreke Evans

Re: Greens value
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2012, 07:22:19 PM »

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I wouldn't mind seeing Green back (for the right amount of greenbacks  ;D). I know, that was lame.

Anyway, I think any team would be foolish to give him multiple years and/or big money. He struggled during his half season in Boston, then missed a whole season because of a heart ailment. That ain't child's play. People need to see that he's 100% healthy AND that he can earn his keep. I know that there's always at least one putz GM who's willing to sign bad contracts, but Green, as much as I like him, isn't worth that type of risk.
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Re: Greens value
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2012, 07:36:14 PM »

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2 year deal for fair money works for me. Make him amke a statement and see what he can really do.

Re: Greens value
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2012, 07:51:46 PM »

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  1 yr 8 million or 2 yrs 15 million.

  I'd prefer the one year because of his heart issue but I'd give him a second if that is what it takes.

 I think Doc and Rondo can really bring the best out of Jeff Green if given the opportunity.

Re: Greens value
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2012, 04:45:29 PM »

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Can the Celtics send him to Sac for Evans?
why would you want a 6'9 point guard when we have rondo?


Because he is a scorer.  He gives Rondo someone to feed. 

Re: Greens value
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2012, 06:33:23 PM »

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i'd be appalled if the Celtics gave Green a contract anywhere from 7-9 mil. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, i just don't think he solves any needs. What the Celtics need is a 4 that can score and rebound. Green is more effective at the 3 and if Pietrus and Pierce are back next year (which i think they will be) then what's the point of wasting that much on Green?

As long as the Celtics don't give KG and Green and Bass so much money that the team is in the luxury tax, a few extra million to Green doesn't affect the money that the Celtics can offer at the kind of player you want.
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