Will KG make his decision to return before the draft?

[j804]

It all rests on KG's shoulders it seems from where we're headed. Do you guys think Danny will sit with KG and try and work something out before the draft deadline? Will Danny's moves play into KG's decision?

If Danny tries trading up and it just involves Bradley in order to improve the team I see him still wanting to return if we're better, but what if it meant trading Paul (I don't think he's gong this route but who knows)? If so KG probably hangs it up or signs elsewhere don't see him returning if Ray and Paul are gone. I still hate the idea of moving Paul he embodies what being a Celtic is all about...let him ride off into the sunset with KG in a year or two and have them bridge the gap to our young guns of what the culture is around here. The draft will be interesting and is just around the corner can wait to see how this all unfolds.

[SHAQATTACK]

One of Two things will happen...It will be KG back and a few new faces added to the Celtics or KG Pearlharbors us  and 75%-85% new team emerges from the ashes..    

[Who]

Nope -- KG will probably decide a few days or a week into free agency.

[BleedGreen1989]

Whether or not it's set in stone, I think Danny has a pretty good idea what KG will do and will act accordingly

[colincb]

No.

The ball is in Danny's court.  KG isn't coming back to rebuild/tutor and I doubt he wants to come back for just one year, so Danny has to decide to rebuild or figure a way to reload.  He can reload with new free agents (good luck with that strategy, which requires renouncing our free agents) or he can bring every one back add Green, Wilcox, two 1st rounders and hope for improvement from the sophs and a healthy PP, RA, AB, and MP.  The more competitive the Miami-OKC series, the more likely Danny brings everyone back.

I don't see Danny trying to go after free agents this year in a sellers' market to try to combine with KG.  It's a weak unrestricted free agent class combined with a lot of teams having excess cap engineered in anticipation of the new CBA and DH's free agency. Hibbert's not walking through that door, as Indy will match up to the max, and Ilyasova's only coming if we overpay him and gut the team of mid-tier free agents who are the backbone of our bench (like most teams).

[LarBrd33]

Danny probably doesn't even know what's happening yet.  I imagine he will probably be shopping Rondo and Pierce on draft night... not necessarily wanting to trade them, but floating ideas that might improve our "big picture" outlook.... especially Pierce.  I'm sure Ainge would love to get additional cap space and a top 10 pick for Pierce.... problem is, I think Pierce would throw a wrench in any potential trade (like he did with the Nets trade around the deadline) and possibly even threaten retirement if we tried to ship him out. 

Really there are too many "what-if's" that Ainge has yet to explore.  For example, if Dwight Howard seriously goes on the market, you better believe Ainge will make a play for him... in a trade that more than likely would have to include Rondo.   Everything is up in the air.  Probably will not know what KG's plan is until we know what Ainge's plan is. 

[gpap]

No.

The ball is in Danny's court.  KG isn't coming back to rebuild/tutor and I doubt he wants to come back for just one year, so Danny has to decide to rebuild or figure a way to reload.  He can reload with new free agents (good luck with that strategy, which requires renouncing our free agents) or he can bring every one back add Green, Wilcox, two 1st rounders and hope for improvement from the sophs and a healthy PP, RA, AB, and MP.  The more competitive the Miami-OKC series, the more likely Danny brings everyone back.

I don't see Danny trying to go after free agents this year in a sellers' market to try to combine with KG.  It's a weak unrestricted free agent class combined with a lot of teams having excess cap engineered in anticipation of the new CBA and DH's free agency. Hibbert's not walking through that door, as Indy will match up to the max, and Ilyasova's only coming if we overpay him and gut the team of mid-tier free agents who are the backbone of our bench (like most teams).

Just bringing back this year's team is not going to get anything done. I've said it before and will say it again. If this year's roster couldn't win a championship, why bring it back next year?

As for not signing any good free agents, I am not following you. The Celtics will have about $26 million in cap space this season. There are no "superstar" free agents out there, but there are some players available who will be good enough to help get the Celtics over the top. You sign a couple bigs like Ilyasova and Kaman (for example) along with a good wing like a Gerald Wallace/Jamal Crawford along with a returning KG and now the Celtics will be more competitve than just simply fielding the same roster from last year.

[cman88]

I would bet they have an idea of what KG is going to do...during the Heat series both WOJ/Macmullen stated both camps have shown mutual interest..Doc also said he thinks KG returns next year....KG just needs to get over the game 7 loss

with that being said, I think Ainge looks for someoen with more immediate impact in the draft...with 2 picks, we have options where we can trade up if we want.

[j804]

No.

The ball is in Danny's court.  KG isn't coming back to rebuild/tutor and I doubt he wants to come back for just one year, so Danny has to decide to rebuild or figure a way to reload.  He can reload with new free agents (good luck with that strategy, which requires renouncing our free agents) or he can bring every one back add Green, Wilcox, two 1st rounders and hope for improvement from the sophs and a healthy PP, RA, AB, and MP.  The more competitive the Miami-OKC series, the more likely Danny brings everyone back.

I don't see Danny trying to go after free agents this year in a sellers' market to try to combine with KG.  It's a weak unrestricted free agent class combined with a lot of teams having excess cap engineered in anticipation of the new CBA and DH's free agency. Hibbert's not walking through that door, as Indy will match up to the max, and Ilyasova's only coming if we overpay him and gut the team of mid-tier free agents who are the backbone of our bench (like most teams).

Just bringing back this year's team is not going to get anything done. I've said it before and will say it again. If this year's roster couldn't win a championship, why bring it back next year?

As for not signing any good free agents, I am not following you. The Celtics will have about $26 million in cap space this season. There are no "superstar" free agents out there, but there are some players available who will be good enough to help get the Celtics over the top. You sign a couple bigs like Ilyasova and Kaman (for example) along with a good wing like a Gerald Wallace/Jamal Crawford along with a returning KG and now the Celtics will be more competitve than just simply fielding the same roster from last year.

It's still wide open everywhere we took the Heat to 7 in the ECF this Finals probably goes 7, we were injured hell lots of guys are still injured I don't see how next year changes anything it'll be wide open again. The Thunder might end up losing some guys next year trying to pay everybody, no? If Miami loses yet again doubt they break up but who knows what happens.

[colincb]

No.

The ball is in Danny's court.  KG isn't coming back to rebuild/tutor and I doubt he wants to come back for just one year, so Danny has to decide to rebuild or figure a way to reload.  He can reload with new free agents (good luck with that strategy, which requires renouncing our free agents) or he can bring every one back add Green, Wilcox, two 1st rounders and hope for improvement from the sophs and a healthy PP, RA, AB, and MP.  The more competitive the Miami-OKC series, the more likely Danny brings everyone back.

I don't see Danny trying to go after free agents this year in a sellers' market to try to combine with KG.  It's a weak unrestricted free agent class combined with a lot of teams having excess cap engineered in anticipation of the new CBA and DH's free agency. Hibbert's not walking through that door, as Indy will match up to the max, and Ilyasova's only coming if we overpay him and gut the team of mid-tier free agents who are the backbone of our bench (like most teams).

Just bringing back this year's team is not going to get anything done. I've said it before and will say it again. If this year's roster couldn't win a championship, why bring it back next year?

As for not signing any good free agents, I am not following you. The Celtics will have about $26 million in cap space this season. There are no "superstar" free agents out there, but there are some players available who will be good enough to help get the Celtics over the top. You sign a couple bigs like Ilyasova and Kaman (for example) along with a good wing like a Gerald Wallace/Jamal Crawford along with a returning KG and now the Celtics will be more competitve than just simply fielding the same roster from last year.

We don't have $26M and you're not getting those 4 guys for that if we did.

[indeedproceed]

I don't think it matters when KG announces it, I believe it's pretty much inevitable.

[BballTim]

No.

The ball is in Danny's court.  KG isn't coming back to rebuild/tutor and I doubt he wants to come back for just one year, so Danny has to decide to rebuild or figure a way to reload.  He can reload with new free agents (good luck with that strategy, which requires renouncing our free agents) or he can bring every one back add Green, Wilcox, two 1st rounders and hope for improvement from the sophs and a healthy PP, RA, AB, and MP.  The more competitive the Miami-OKC series, the more likely Danny brings everyone back.

I don't see Danny trying to go after free agents this year in a sellers' market to try to combine with KG.  It's a weak unrestricted free agent class combined with a lot of teams having excess cap engineered in anticipation of the new CBA and DH's free agency. Hibbert's not walking through that door, as Indy will match up to the max, and Ilyasova's only coming if we overpay him and gut the team of mid-tier free agents who are the backbone of our bench (like most teams).

Just bringing back this year's team is not going to get anything done. I've said it before and will say it again. If this year's roster couldn't win a championship, why bring it back next year?

  That's assuming that if you added Bradley, Green and Wilcox to the team they still couldn't win the championship. I don't think that's really the case.

[indeedproceed]

  That's assuming that if you added Bradley, Green and Wilcox to the team they still couldn't win the championship. I don't think that's really the case

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That might be very true, and I hope it is, but a lot of things fell well for the Cs this season that won't be the case next season. The 66 game season for one, timely injuries to Rose and Bosh, and KG holding off father time for a bit at least.

A lot of things went poorly for the Cs last season, a lot. Green and Bradley chief among them, but we're no replaying the 2012 season, and the odds are once again stacked heavily against the Cs if they just add green, bring back the core, and use cheap spackle to fill in the holes. Not even an outside shot, it's a long shot of a longshot.

[csfansince60s]

I don't think it matters when KG announces it, I believe it's pretty much inevitable.

Agree...I think Ainge knows that KG is coming back.

If KG weren't coming back, I think Ainge gets all the rooks he can get to start accumulating assests to start the rebuild, which is contrary to the report that the Cs don't want 2 first round rooks.

[BballTim]

  That's assuming that if you added Bradley, Green and Wilcox to the team they still couldn't win the championship. I don't think that's really the case

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That might be very true, and I hope it is, but a lot of things fell well for the Cs this season that won't be the case next season. The 66 game season for one, timely injuries to Rose and Bosh, and KG holding off father time for a bit at least.

A lot of things went poorly for the Cs last season, a lot. Green and Bradley chief among them, but we're no replaying the 2012 season, and the odds are once again stacked heavily against the Cs if they just add green, bring back the core, and use cheap spackle to fill in the holes. Not even an outside shot, it's a long shot of a longshot.

  I feel like I read hundreds of posts about how the compressed schedule chock full of back to backs was going to be devastating to the Celts, and I'm guessing I'll now spend much of the summer having those same posters tell me how fortunate the Celts were to play that schedule.