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Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2012, 11:31:30 AM »

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I think Evans likely will be moved.



But not for such a low ball offer.  


I could see maybe a sign and trade type of deal where Ray Allen goes to one team that sends the big man the Kings want which in turns send Evans to the Celtics (there would have to be other pieces likely from the Celtics involved)


Who knows, maybe Ray to the Bulls, Boozer to the Kings and Evans to the Celtics (with what ever cap fillers are needed in there)
I would have some definite interest in that move, since I suspect maturity is Evans' biggest issue.

What I wouldn't have interest in is buying high on him, such as a Pierce move.

The following would work

Ray to the Bulls (around 10 million a year)

Boozer to Kings

Evans and Hayes to the Celtics

Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2012, 11:32:52 AM »

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Tyreke Evans is a less talented version of Monta Ellis. His teams will never make the playoffs.

Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2012, 11:34:05 AM »

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Tyreke Evans is a less talented version of Monta Ellis. His teams will never make the playoffs.


If he is the main star the team is built around, probably not.


If he is a complimentary star to the guy the team is built around, yes, his team will make the playoffs. 

Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2012, 05:35:15 PM »

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This article suggests the Kings wont pick up his option.

Instead of giving up two picks, why not go all in with the rebuild?  They have two horrible contracts in Salmons and Hayes. Both have 3 years left. If it is time to rebuild, Danny could take Tyreke and the two bad contracts for Pierce and Moore. 

The Celtics then have 3 good young guards in Tyreke, Bradley, and of course Rondo.  You draft two athletic forwards to team with JJJ.  Hayes can play PF while KG comes back for one or two years to play center and be the mentor to all the young guys (and also to help keep the team respectable)

After one year, Amnesty the 32 year old Salmons.  After two years you can do the same with Hayes if he is not working out. 

They can go with Cousins, Thornton, Jimmer, Thomas, and the #6 pick for the future while Pierce makes them more of a factor this year. 

The Celtics:

Rondo  Salmons
Bradley  Evans
Green  Draft
Hayes  JJJ   Draft
KG  Stiemsma


Not the best roster ever, but if you are going to build around Rondo, you need a good guard to run with him and you need really athletic forwards to run the floor. 

Danny would still have great cap space when KG came back off the books and he amnestys Salmon. 

Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2012, 05:40:41 PM »

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This article suggests the Kings wont pick up his option.

Instead of giving up two picks, why not go all in with the rebuild?  They have two horrible contracts in Salmons and Hayes. Both have 3 years left. If it is time to rebuild, Danny could take Tyreke and the two bad contracts for Pierce and Moore.  

The Celtics then have 3 good young guards in Tyreke, Bradley, and of course Rondo.  You draft two athletic forwards to team with JJJ.  Hayes can play PF while KG comes back for one or two years to play center and be the mentor to all the young guys (and also to help keep the team respectable)

After one year, Amnesty the 32 year old Salmons.  After two years you can do the same with Hayes if he is not working out.  

They can go with Cousins, Thornton, Jimmer, Thomas, and the #6 pick for the future while Pierce makes them more of a factor this year.  

The Celtics:

Rondo  Salmons
Bradley  Evans
Green  Draft
Hayes  JJJ   Draft
KG  Stiemsma


Not the best roster ever, but if you are going to build around Rondo, you need a good guard to run with him and you need really athletic forwards to run the floor.  

Danny would still have great cap space when KG came back off the books and he amnestys Salmon.  

You can't trade for someone, and then use the amnesty provision on them. And you can use the provision only once.

Sacramento has done a horrible job with that roster the last few years.
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Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2012, 05:41:21 PM »

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I think Evans could be a Bobcat next year.


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Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2012, 05:43:52 PM »

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I think Evans could be a Bobcat next year.

I was just thinking the same. The #2 for Evans (after draft night)?

A Kemba Walker/Tyreke Evans backcourt could be exhiliratingly good and astonishingly bad.
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Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2012, 05:46:26 PM »

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Tyreke Evans is a less talented version of Monta Ellis. His teams will never make the playoffs.


If he is the main star the team is built around, probably not.


If he is a complimentary star to the guy the team is built around, yes, his team will make the playoffs. 

I think his unwillingness to play team basketball will prevent him from not being 'the main star.'

Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2012, 05:53:40 PM »

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This article suggests the Kings wont pick up his option.

Instead of giving up two picks, why not go all in with the rebuild?  They have two horrible contracts in Salmons and Hayes. Both have 3 years left. If it is time to rebuild, Danny could take Tyreke and the two bad contracts for Pierce and Moore.  

The Celtics then have 3 good young guards in Tyreke, Bradley, and of course Rondo.  You draft two athletic forwards to team with JJJ.  Hayes can play PF while KG comes back for one or two years to play center and be the mentor to all the young guys (and also to help keep the team respectable)

After one year, Amnesty the 32 year old Salmons.  After two years you can do the same with Hayes if he is not working out.  

They can go with Cousins, Thornton, Jimmer, Thomas, and the #6 pick for the future while Pierce makes them more of a factor this year.  

The Celtics:

Rondo  Salmons
Bradley  Evans
Green  Draft
Hayes  JJJ   Draft
KG  Stiemsma


Not the best roster ever, but if you are going to build around Rondo, you need a good guard to run with him and you need really athletic forwards to run the floor.  

Danny would still have great cap space when KG came back off the books and he amnestys Salmon.  

You can't trade for someone, and then use the amnesty provision on them. And you can use the provision only once.

Sacramento has done a horrible job with that roster the last few years.


Can you not trade for them and then a year later use the amnesty?  Can you not do it to another player a year after that?



Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2012, 05:55:13 PM »

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I think Evans could be a Bobcat next year.

I was just thinking the same. The #2 for Evans (after draft night)?

A Kemba Walker/Tyreke Evans backcourt could be exhiliratingly good and astonishingly bad.

Yeah. They might compliment each other well and then again they might not lol. I just think you could see this deal after all the Harden rumors.


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Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2012, 05:57:08 PM »

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This article suggests the Kings wont pick up his option.

Instead of giving up two picks, why not go all in with the rebuild?  They have two horrible contracts in Salmons and Hayes. Both have 3 years left. If it is time to rebuild, Danny could take Tyreke and the two bad contracts for Pierce and Moore.  

The Celtics then have 3 good young guards in Tyreke, Bradley, and of course Rondo.  You draft two athletic forwards to team with JJJ.  Hayes can play PF while KG comes back for one or two years to play center and be the mentor to all the young guys (and also to help keep the team respectable)

After one year, Amnesty the 32 year old Salmons.  After two years you can do the same with Hayes if he is not working out.  

They can go with Cousins, Thornton, Jimmer, Thomas, and the #6 pick for the future while Pierce makes them more of a factor this year.  

The Celtics:

Rondo  Salmons
Bradley  Evans
Green  Draft
Hayes  JJJ   Draft
KG  Stiemsma


Not the best roster ever, but if you are going to build around Rondo, you need a good guard to run with him and you need really athletic forwards to run the floor.  

Danny would still have great cap space when KG came back off the books and he amnestys Salmon.  

You can't trade for someone, and then use the amnesty provision on them. And you can use the provision only once.

Sacramento has done a horrible job with that roster the last few years.


Can you not trade for them and then a year later use the amnesty?  Can you not do it to another player a year after that?




No, and no.

You can only use it on your own players who were signed to contracts before the new CBA went into effect, and you only get one bullet to use.
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Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2012, 09:05:16 PM »

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The Kings wouldn't be that desperate to accept that trade. Maybe we could get some mega-deal going and send Pierce and J. Johnson to Lakers for Gasol ( :-X) and Ebanks, and send Gasol and a first round pick to the Kings for Tyreke, and a second round draft pick and/or Jason Thompson.

So to wrap up my crazed mind, here it is in a simple form:

Lakers get: Pierce, Johnson
Celtics get: T. Evans, 2nd round draft pick, Ebanks, and possibly J. Thompson
Kings get: 1st round draft pick, Gasol

I know it's crazy, yet everything is possible!

Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2012, 09:25:30 PM »

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I think Evans likely will be moved.



But not for such a low ball offer.  


I could see maybe a sign and trade type of deal where Ray Allen goes to one team that sends the big man the Kings want which in turns send Evans to the Celtics (there would have to be other pieces likely from the Celtics involved)


Who knows, maybe Ray to the Bulls, Boozer to the Kings and Evans to the Celtics (with what ever cap fillers are needed in there)
I would have some definite interest in that move, since I suspect maturity is Evans' biggest issue.

What I wouldn't have interest in is buying high on him, such as a Pierce move.

The following would work

Ray to the Bulls (around 10 million a year)

Boozer to Kings

Evans and Hayes to the Celtics

I hope Ainge reads Celticsblog. This move benefits every team. On top of that it lets Ray retire really happy.

I think the Kings very enthusiastic if they got Taj Gibson.

Maybe if we swapped our first with the Bulls's first, give them Bass as well...and the Kings give the Bulls Jimmer Fredette (maybe for Rip Hamilton)...And we get Jason Thompson...

Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2012, 10:09:43 PM »

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I'd do that deal.

What I have absolutely no interest in is this plethora of "blow it up" deals.

This isn't fantasy basketball. We're trying to win. I have less than no interest in going back to the days when we're amusing ourselves here by rhapsodizing about the greatness of Brandon Hunter, Orien Green and Patrick O'Bryant.

This is the Boston Celtics, not the Washington Wizards. No excuse, and less justification, for blowing this up. Earn your money, Ainge, and put together a transition, not a total rebuild.
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Re: Two picks for Tyreke Evans ideas
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2012, 10:16:11 PM »

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This article suggests the Kings wont pick up his option.

Instead of giving up two picks, why not go all in with the rebuild?  They have two horrible contracts in Salmons and Hayes. Both have 3 years left. If it is time to rebuild, Danny could take Tyreke and the two bad contracts for Pierce and Moore. 

The Celtics then have 3 good young guards in Tyreke, Bradley, and of course Rondo.  You draft two athletic forwards to team with JJJ.  Hayes can play PF while KG comes back for one or two years to play center and be the mentor to all the young guys (and also to help keep the team respectable)

After one year, Amnesty the 32 year old Salmons.  After two years you can do the same with Hayes if he is not working out. 

They can go with Cousins, Thornton, Jimmer, Thomas, and the #6 pick for the future while Pierce makes them more of a factor this year. 

The Celtics:

Rondo  Salmons
Bradley  Evans
Green  Draft
Hayes  JJJ   Draft
KG  Stiemsma


Not the best roster ever, but if you are going to build around Rondo, you need a good guard to run with him and you need really athletic forwards to run the floor. 

Danny would still have great cap space when KG came back off the books and he amnestys Salmon. 

You can't trade for someone, and then use the amnesty provision on them. And you can use the provision only once.

Sacramento has done a horrible job with that roster the last few years.


Can you not trade for them and then a year later use the amnesty?  Can you not do it to another player a year after that?




No, and no.

You can only use it on your own players who were signed to contracts before the new CBA went into effect, and you only get one bullet to use.

I guess not everybody has read your, 'Things to Remember,' section.  :D