Fantasy Baseball trade question

[Gainesville Celtic]

ubuntu y'all!

My long-time 12-team keeper league (not the celticsblog league ), we can keep 5 players --- it's 12 x 12 categories (pitching and hitting).

I'm in 6th place and my pitching (Lester, Becket, Shields, Wainwright, Luebke) has struggled all year (outside of Hamels).

My 5 keepers project to be Miggy, Pedroia, Hamels, JUpton and maybe Wainwright if he gets it together.

I'm considering this trade counter offer but can't make up my mind:

GIVE: Justin Upton, Rafael Furcal, Chase Utley
GET: Eric Hosmer, Ryan Zimmerman, Allen Craig, James McDonald

Upton is the best player but since our league counts strikeouts he's not as great as in a 5x5 league. Utley is still at least a month away and was average in his last 2 seasons after injury.

This seems like (a) too much talent to pass up and (b) buying low on Hosmer & Zimmerman while getting a solid SP in McDonald.

But will Hosmer project to reach that top-20 level that Upton seems to be at/near? Does it matter...? Upton has been about as good as Cameron Maybin in this league and maybe he's plateaued as a player with more promise than talent (2 of 3 seasons have been eh...)

[sofutomygaha]

I like the deal but I think it's pretty well balanced. What's your keeper rule? How big are your rosters/benches?

[Gainesville Celtic]

I like the deal but I think it's pretty well balanced. What's your keeper rule? How big are your rosters/benches?

Any 5 guys we can keep as our 1st-5th round picks (pretty vanilla).

21 man rosters. Because of the makeup of our league and how other teams build their teams I tend to go:

9 batters
1 Bench bat

5-6 Starters
5 relievers


My full lineup:

C- Pierzinski (can't spell his name )
1B - Miggy Cabrera
2B - Pedroia
3B - Jed Lowrie
SS - Furcal
OF - J Upton, Victorino, Maybin
UT - Ortiz
BN - Swisher
DL - Brett Gardner, Utley

SP - Hamels, Lester, Becket, Shields, Wainwright, Jarrod Parker
RP - Brett Myers, Clippard, Street, Reed, A. Bailey

[jgod213]

I like that deal for you a lot, GC.  Coming from the defending CB baseball champ and current odds-on favorite to repeat, this should carry some clout 

Hosmer and Zimmerman have the same pedigree as Upton.  They will be stars in this league for a long time.

I'm also real big on Allen Craig, and with his multi-position eligibility he provides a lot of help.  McDonald is the icing on the cake, he has a chance to be a front-end starter.

To me this is a no-brainer - the only problem you might run into is having a tough choice for keepers next year, haha.

[sofutomygaha]

It's a nice value and I applaud you for liquidating Utley and Furcal, who have very little long term value, but what are you going to do with the logjam you create at 1B?

[Moranis]

I guess my only question is, since you were projecting Upton as a keeper, who would you keep after the trade is made.  Also, who would you cut?  I think the trade is an ok trade for this year (both teams about the same amount of production), but I question it going forward in the future as you are losing a keeper and I don't think you are getting one back.

[Gainesville Celtic]

I like that deal for you a lot, GC.  Coming from the defending CB baseball champ and current odds-on favorite to repeat, this should carry some clout 

Hosmer and Zimmerman have the same pedigree as Upton.  They will be stars in this league for a long time.

I'm also real big on Allen Craig, and with his multi-position eligibility he provides a lot of help.  McDonald is the icing on the cake, he has a chance to be a front-end starter.

To me this is a no-brainer - the only problem you might run into is having a tough choice for keepers next year, haha.

whooooaaa Jgod... Check my sig below... you mighta been on top of that trash heap once upon a time, but last year was the Gainesville Ubuntu's (one and only ) chance to shine!

That said, thanks for the feedback, I guess I just needed someone else to validate the deal. This GM and I make a deal every year --- 2 years back I got Votto for Zimmerman (and junk), last year Hamels for Scherzer (and junk)... I'm just nervous my streak might end  

[Gainesville Celtic]

It's a nice value and I applaud you for liquidating Utley and Furcal, who have very little long term value, but what are you going to do with the logjam you create at 1B?

Thanks...!

Miggy is 3B-eligible so he can play there and oddly enough Hosmer looks to be OF-eligible in a week or 2 b/c KC has been playing him there in NL parks during interleague and Butler at 1B... He needs 3 more starts in 6 NL-park games...

[Gainesville Celtic]

I guess my only question is, since you were projecting Upton as a keeper, who would you keep after the trade is made.  Also, who would you cut?  I think the trade is an ok trade for this year (both teams about the same amount of production), but I question it going forward in the future as you are losing a keeper and I don't think you are getting one back.

Moranis, I'll probably keep:

Miggy, Pedroia, Hamels, Hosmer, and 1 of R.Zimmerman, Wainwright, Ortiz or Victorino.

(Was gonna keep Miggy, Pedroia, Hamels,JUpton and 1 of Wainwright, Ortiz or Victorino.)


Basically I'm taking a hit in my 4th keeper (Jupton --> Hosmer) to upgrade/buoy my SP this season (and buy low on Zimmerman).

[jgod213]

I like that deal for you a lot, GC.  Coming from the defending CB baseball champ and current odds-on favorite to repeat, this should carry some clout 

Hosmer and Zimmerman have the same pedigree as Upton.  They will be stars in this league for a long time.

I'm also real big on Allen Craig, and with his multi-position eligibility he provides a lot of help.  McDonald is the icing on the cake, he has a chance to be a front-end starter.

To me this is a no-brainer - the only problem you might run into is having a tough choice for keepers next year, haha.

whooooaaa Jgod... Check my sig below... you mighta been on top of that trash heap once upon a time, but last year was the Gainesville Ubuntu's (one and only ) chance to shine!

That said, thanks for the feedback, I guess I just needed someone else to validate the deal. This GM and I make a deal every year --- 2 years back I got Votto for Zimmerman (and junk), last year Hamels for Scherzer (and junk)... I'm just nervous my streak might end  

AH! that's right - that was my other league i won last year bwahahaha.  OK, coming from a FORMER CB champ...

I'd take the hit to improve your squad this year.  That trade makes you very deep, and allows you to hedge your bets against injury (the Lowrie/Furcal/Utley group is suspect in that regard).  You can also parlay a couple of those new guys into another deal should you find that you want to upgrade that pitching staff.

Your retooled outfield of Victorino/Swisher/Craig/Hosmer will get the job done replacing Upton.

[Gainesville Celtic]

I like that deal for you a lot, GC.  Coming from the defending CB baseball champ and current odds-on favorite to repeat, this should carry some clout 

Hosmer and Zimmerman have the same pedigree as Upton.  They will be stars in this league for a long time.

I'm also real big on Allen Craig, and with his multi-position eligibility he provides a lot of help.  McDonald is the icing on the cake, he has a chance to be a front-end starter.

To me this is a no-brainer - the only problem you might run into is having a tough choice for keepers next year, haha.

whooooaaa Jgod... Check my sig below... you mighta been on top of that trash heap once upon a time, but last year was the Gainesville Ubuntu's (one and only ) chance to shine!

That said, thanks for the feedback, I guess I just needed someone else to validate the deal. This GM and I make a deal every year --- 2 years back I got Votto for Zimmerman (and junk), last year Hamels for Scherzer (and junk)... I'm just nervous my streak might end  

AH! that's right - that was my other league i won last year bwahahaha.  OK, coming from a FORMER CB champ...

I'd take the hit to improve your squad this year.  That trade makes you very deep, and allows you to hedge your bets against injury (the Lowrie/Furcal/Utley group is suspect in that regard).  You can also parlay a couple of those new guys into another deal should you find that you want to upgrade that pitching staff.

Your retooled outfield of Victorino/Swisher/Craig/Hosmer will get the job done replacing Upton.

Understandable Jgod... 

Swisher's been brutal after a hot start.

Sadly there are few trades in this league, so this + and FA pickups would be it, but I *know* i'm not winning with my current roster... the deal seems to be a shot at winning --- with a pretty minimal downside.

[Gainesville Celtic]

Haha, my indecision might have helped --- the GM pulled his offer of

GIVE: Justin Upton, Rafael Furcal, Chase Utley
GET: Eric Hosmer, Ryan Zimmerman, Allen Craig, James McDonald

and sent:

GIVE: Justin Upton, Rafael Furcal, Chase Utley, Cameron Maybin, Jarrod Parker
GET: Eric Hosmer, Ryan Zimmerman, Allen Craig, James McDonald

gotta do this I think