Thoughts on Javale McGee?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Dumb, stupid, lazy, no work ethic, no heart, not particularly skilled at much; all synonymous with Javale McGee.

I said in an earlier thread, nature vs. nurture and those things are his nature and no one is going to change that.

He did not look all those things when he got traded. He still has some long ways to go, but it show that with proper locker room presence, coaching and the right mentality he could be productive.

The problem is he's going to be overpaid. But if the Celtics can get him at around 9 mil a year, heck yeah.

He's going to play a role, he's not gonna be the game changer of this team. He'll be playing defense, rebound and hustle. And he has the physical tools to do that and more. I'd take that dumb, stupid, lazy, no work ethic and not particularly skilled at much and that potential to be a great interior defender. He'll do wonders for us. I mean Hollins was kind of the same thing, it turned out pretty well. Who's to say McGee woulnd't.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Do not touch him.


He plays with out a clue. 

Plays without a clue or played in a system that had no clue (Washington)?  Having Blatche as your mentor with a team that had the likes of Nick Young, Thornton and a rookie trying to learn the ropes doesn't sound like the best learning environment.

Make excuses, but doesn't change the player he is.

i disagree respectfully. He looked different in Denver. As evidenced by the lack of Shaqting a fool appearances. All joking aside, he looked like a different player in Denver really. That veteran locker room and good coaching who got him to play a role that fit him right where he should made him look like a solid C. He's young, he has room to grow, provided that there would be people who'll take him in the right direction, people which we have.

[lon3lytoaster]

Dumb, stupid, lazy, no work ethic, no heart, not particularly skilled at much; all synonymous with Javale McGee.

I said in an earlier thread, nature vs. nurture and those things are his nature and no one is going to change that.

He did not look all those things when he got traded. He still has some long ways to go, but it show that with proper locker room presence, coaching and the right mentality he could be productive.

The problem is he's going to be overpaid. But if the Celtics can get him at around 9 mil a year, heck yeah.

He's going to play a role, he's not gonna be the game changer of this team. He'll be playing defense, rebound and hustle. And he has the physical tools to do that and more. I'd take that dumb, stupid, lazy, no work ethic and not particularly skilled at much and that potential to be a great interior defender. He'll do wonders for us. I mean Hollins was kind of the same thing, it turned out pretty well. Who's to say McGee woulnd't.

I don't think he's smart enough to be a good interior defender, honestly. He's the type of guy to make a ton of dumb defensive moves just to get one block on sportscenter. That's the kind of player he is.

He also pushes KG to PF, since McGee doesn't have the skills to play there. Kevin's resurgence was because of him sucking it up and agreeing to play the 5. I doubt we're willing to pay McGee 10 million to be a bench player.

The whole McGee in Boston dynamic is ugly anyway I look at it.

[LarBrd33]

I like a lot of players who are restricted free agents.  I like a lot of players who are under contract too.  

[Snakehead]

I like Javale but you just know he is going to be overpaid by some team.  I wouldn't want to over pay for him.

I really want KG back and at the C position.  So I'm much more in favor of looking for a PF.

Dumb, stupid, lazy, no work ethic, no heart, not particularly skilled at much; all synonymous with Javale McGee.

I said in an earlier thread, nature vs. nurture and those things are his nature and no one is going to change that.

He did not look all those things when he got traded. He still has some long ways to go, but it show that with proper locker room presence, coaching and the right mentality he could be productive.

The problem is he's going to be overpaid. But if the Celtics can get him at around 9 mil a year, heck yeah.

He's going to play a role, he's not gonna be the game changer of this team. He'll be playing defense, rebound and hustle. And he has the physical tools to do that and more. I'd take that dumb, stupid, lazy, no work ethic and not particularly skilled at much and that potential to be a great interior defender. He'll do wonders for us. I mean Hollins was kind of the same thing, it turned out pretty well. Who's to say McGee woulnd't.

I agree with most of your assessment, really turned it around in Denver.  I will say the dude has some serious skills at time, to say he doesn't is unfair.  It's part of what makes him such an enigma because every once in a while he just does something incredible but he isn't consistent with it (stuff like snatching blocks out of the air ala Bill Russell or going coast to coast and showing some serious ball handling skills). But at 9 mill there is just no way.  He's going to get more thrown at him than that.  If we could get him at 9 mill it'd be a no brainier IMO, but that's just not happening.

[thenotoriousjts]

Honestly, he's not that bad of a player. I liked what he did in Denver. I don't really want him in green but it wouldn't be the worst thing.

[Eddie20]

Let's not forget that Tyson Chandler was considered a bust after 5 seasons in Chicago. What a difference playing with a great pg made for his career. McGee will be entering his 5th season and is a very similar type of player to Chandler, especially the 24 year old Chandler.

[Evantime34]

I love McGee. He played Bynum well in the playoffs showing just the tip of his promise. He can run the floor like no other 5 except Dwight. He's an excellent shot blocker and a very good rebounder.  He started to show a sky hook in playoffs. He would be perfect next to KG. The problem is we don't have the cash to sign him without kg retiring. Not sure how he would do was the primary big on a contender though.

[Dchuck]

McGee was an immature player on an incredibly immature team with no mentors.  The dude is 24 years old!  You don't think KG can whip this guy into shape?

What did KG do for Perk?  Made him care and take his craft serious.

How about Rondo?

How anyone can point to his rediculous plays from Sportscenter as the main reasons to stay away is insane!

Certainly, you don't overpay for him, but he has all the physical tools we NEED!  All he needs is the right coach, teammates and mentors.  All of which we have (assuming KG comes back)!

[Chris]

McGee is one of the dumbest basketball players I have ever seen.  But he is also incredibly talented.  I think at a reasonable price, he can really help a team, and he has the potential to be very good.  However, he will likely cost a premium to sign, which is not something I would want the C's to be paying for a guy who doesn't understand the game well.

[Finkelskyhook]

He'll get an irrational offer from some GM.

[Dchuck]

What would be a reasonable offer for him?

8 mil? 9 mil?

[kozlodoev]

McGee was an immature player on an incredibly immature team with no mentors.  The dude is 24 years old!  You don't think KG can whip this guy into shape?

What did KG do for Perk?  Made him care and take his craft serious.

Um, I'm sorry -- Perk came out of high school caring and taking his craft seriously. Gerald Green is a better comparison, both in terms of demeanor and (basketball) intelligence.

[Lucky17]

When speaking about Kevin Garnett's ability to mentor teammates, note that KG was in Glen Davis' ear constantly.

We all know how Davis has turned out.

[D Dub]

I think we need to make a play for this guy. 

Clearing Ray's salary, and resigning KG to a team-friendly deal puts us in position to offer a deal that Denver hesitates to match.

We've needed C for a couple years now, KG is a short term fix.

With McGee & Rondo; we'd be pairing the longest, most athletic center in the league with the longest, most prolific pass-first pg in the league. One averages top 3 in blocks, the other top 3 in steals.  Ages 24 and 26 respectively.

We all ready have the forwards to stretch the floor in KG, Bass and Pierce.  Throw in a healthy Avery Bradley and maybe a contributing Jeff Green as 7th man & you're talking ECF again next year.