Elton Brand Amnesty Candidate? UPDATE: Woj says yes

[AlainaCath]

If you claim him off waivers then you take on the 18$ million owed? Because if that is the case, its guaranteed no team in the NBA will claim him, there is absolutely no way someone claims Brand for 18$ mil...I mean even with all the terrible GM's employed currently in the NBA, there is no freaking way...







And then a Houston-type team goes and makes an ass of me...

[Lucky17]

If you claim him off waivers then you take on the 18$ million owed?

No. Teams submit a bid, and that bid is paid out annually for each of the remaining years left on the contract.

Brand only has one year remaining on his contract.

[pp34isthe1]

If you claim him off waivers then you take on the 18$ million owed? Because if that is the case, its guaranteed no team in the NBA will claim him, there is absolutely no way someone claims Brand for 18$ mil...I mean even with all the terrible GM's employed currently in the NBA, there is no freaking way...






And then a Houston-type team goes and makes an ass of me...

Bidding system. Teams bid $$$ to pay a certain portion of salary, that is how Brand would be "claimed". Team with highest bid receives the player.

Example: Clippers with winning Billups off of waivers for 2mil bid.

[paintitgreen]

If you claim him off waivers then you take on the 18$ million owed? Because if that is the case, its guaranteed no team in the NBA will claim him, there is absolutely no way someone claims Brand for 18$ mil...I mean even with all the terrible GM's employed currently in the NBA, there is no freaking way...

No, nobody will take him on for $18 mil. What happens is that teams bid what they would pay for him. He goes to the highest bidder and Philly has to pay him the difference between the high bid and the contract salary, though it won't count against Philly's cap.

By the way, thanks to an arbitration ruling a few weeks ago, players who are waived by amnesty but picked up by another team in the bid process retain their Bird rights. So, for example, the Clippers resigned Billups, whom they claimed off amnesty waivers, using a Bird exception instead of having to use the midlevel, cap space or another exception. Whoever claims Brand will have the same rights after the season.

Philly is going to use the amnesty clause on Brand so that it can sign Nick Young to a 1 yr, 6 million dollar contract.

I wonder who will go after Brand, as he has just 1 year left.

I think somebody will put in a bid of a couple mil to try to pick him up. Makes sense for Indiana, as mentioned before, especially if they let Hibbert walk. They could reasonably bid $2-3 million. It does make sense for Boston to consider using the biannual exception amount in a bid - one year, low risk, low money, potentially very good reward. Don't see too many other guys I'd rather get with that money (don't think you could get Camby for the biannual). If Chicago decides not to match Houston's offer to Asik, it makes sense there too to grab a fourth big, especially with Boozer as somebody they want to get rid of and/or Gibson potentially forming the basis for a trade to bring back a better weapon. The Clippers could potentially try to bring Brand back as a fourth big behind Jordan, Griffin and Odom, or even have him to make it more realistic for them to offer up Jordan and Griffin in a trade for Howard. San Antonio has shown an ability to use big veterans. New York might be interested with Amare's injury history. In the end, I think he'll get picked up for somewhere between the biannual exception and $3.1 million.

[AlainaCath]

Ah, ok, well then that changes everything. So he'll prob. get claimed, too bad, cause he'd be a perfect fit with the C's.

[Lucky17]

By the way, thanks to an arbitration ruling a few weeks ago, players who are waived by amnesty but picked up by another team in the bid process retain their Bird rights. So, for example, the Clippers resigned Billups, whom they claimed off amnesty waivers, using a Bird exception instead of having to use the midlevel, cap space or another exception. Whoever claims Brand will have the same rights after the season.

I was wondering about this. Even more reason for a team like Charlotte to submit a bid on him.

[paintitgreen]

By the way, thanks to an arbitration ruling a few weeks ago, players who are waived by amnesty but picked up by another team in the bid process retain their Bird rights. So, for example, the Clippers resigned Billups, whom they claimed off amnesty waivers, using a Bird exception instead of having to use the midlevel, cap space or another exception. Whoever claims Brand will have the same rights after the season.

I was wondering about this. Even more reason for a team like Charlotte to submit a bid on him.

Yeah, I think you're limited to a certain percentage (150%?) of whatever the bid amount was in terms of Bird rights, but that could be helpful in a sign and trade next summer.

[Moranis]

By the way, thanks to an arbitration ruling a few weeks ago, players who are waived by amnesty but picked up by another team in the bid process retain their Bird rights. So, for example, the Clippers resigned Billups, whom they claimed off amnesty waivers, using a Bird exception instead of having to use the midlevel, cap space or another exception. Whoever claims Brand will have the same rights after the season.

I was wondering about this. Even more reason for a team like Charlotte to submit a bid on him.

Yeah, I think you're limited to a certain percentage (150%?) of whatever the bid amount was in terms of Bird rights, but that could be helpful in a sign and trade next summer.

except next summer the sign and trade rule changes come into effect so the value of that is going to be much less.

[clover]

Meanwhile, Stiemer's drawing interest of his own:

A. Sherrod Blakely ‏@SherrodbCSN
#CelticsTalk: In addition to #Celtics and #Timberwolves, Greg Stiemsma drawing interest from #Trailblazers and #Hornets as well.

[Fafnir]

Meanwhile, Stiemer's drawing interest of his own:

A. Sherrod Blakely ‏@SherrodbCSN
#CelticsTalk: In addition to #Celtics and #Timberwolves, Greg Stiemsma drawing interest from #Trailblazers and #Hornets as well.

He's almost certainly gone now that the C's have spent their MLE all on terry.

Too easy for some team to just bid 2 million and he's gone.

[kg is king]

Meanwhile, Stiemer's drawing interest of his own:

A. Sherrod Blakely ‏@SherrodbCSN
#CelticsTalk: In addition to #Celtics and #Timberwolves, Greg Stiemsma drawing interest from #Trailblazers and #Hornets as well.

He's almost certainly gone now that the C's have spent their MLE all on terry.

Too easy for some team to just bid 2 million and he's gone.

Dumb question but we do have his bird rights right? If so, we don't need to worry about asking price.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

[guava_wrench]

Meanwhile, Stiemer's drawing interest of his own:

A. Sherrod Blakely ‏@SherrodbCSN
#CelticsTalk: In addition to #Celtics and #Timberwolves, Greg Stiemsma drawing interest from #Trailblazers and #Hornets as well.

He's almost certainly gone now that the C's have spent their MLE all on terry.

Too easy for some team to just bid 2 million and he's gone.

So we need Bird rights to match offers to our RFAs if we are over the cap? I had always thought teams could match regardless. Guess I was mistaken.

[guava_wrench]

The Clippers could potentially try to bring Brand back as a fourth big behind Jordan, Griffin and Odom, or even have him to make it more realistic for them to offer up Jordan and Griffin in a trade for Howard. San Antonio has shown an ability to use big veterans. New York might be interested with Amare's injury history. In the end, I think he'll get picked up for somewhere between the biannual exception and $3.1 million.

Sterling might still hate him.

History seems to have indicated that the Clippers dream team of Davis and Brand would have been pretty pathetic.

[Lucky17]

Woj says that the Mavs have submitted the winning bid for Brand:

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

The Dallas Mavericks have successfully claimed Elton Brand off amnesty waivers, a league source tells Y! Sports.

I wonder which other teams bid on him.

[Who]

Woj says that the Mavs have submitted the winning bid for Brand:

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

The Dallas Mavericks have successfully claimed Elton Brand off amnesty waivers, a league source tells Y! Sports.

I wonder which other teams bid on him.

Nicely done. I wonder if this rules them out of the Scola bidding process.

Personally, I think they should go after Scola as well. It would lock him up on a cheap contract for the next few years. Very valuable when re-tooling next summer.