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Guess its two options this offseason
« on: June 10, 2012, 07:58:36 AM »

Offline DavorCroatiaFan

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Suppouse Salary cap is 61mil.
Rondo, Pierce, Bradley, Johnson, Moore, 2 first round picks and a second round pick will cost us 34,3mil.
So option one:
Bring the band for another run:
Re-sign KG for 8mil/1yr
Re-sign RA for 12mil/2yr
Re-sign Pietrus for 8mil/2yr
Re-sign Stiemsma for 5mil/2yr

Its about 54,8mil, so we would have 6,2 to spend, but because we are under the cap no MLE. We could go Jeff Green route, maybe even Green & Wilcox for that money.
It would leave us:
RONDO, MOORE, vet.min
BRADLEY, ALLEN, PIETRUS
PIERCE, GREEN, WHITE (21.pick)
NICHOLSON (22.pick), GREEN, WHITE, JOHNSON
GARNETT, WILCOX, STIEMSMA, 2nd round pick

So we basicly bring back the annyone except Bass and Dooling, and became much younger and faster with Green, White and Nicholson.

And option two:
Renounce everybody.
With 26,7 millions try to:
-sign Javale McGee 50mil/4yr, so 11mil first year
-sign Kevin Garnett 8mil/1yr
-sign Jeff Green 5mil/1yr
-sign Greg Stiemsma 2,5 mil/1yr
and round up the roster with vet.min guys

RONDO, MOORE , vet.min
BRADLEY, TAYLOR or LAMB or BARTON (22.pick), vet.min
PIERCE, GREEN, vet.min
GARNETT, WHITE or NICHOLSON (21.pick), GREEN, JOHNSON
McGEE, GARNETT, STIEMSMA, 2nd round pick

I think that Garnett and McGee would be great together, and Rondo would make McGee look like a star, like Paul did to Chandler in NO. Bigger, stronger team. McGee hold his own versus Bynum and is only 24, 4 years younger then Howard. Having a future core of Rondo, Moore, Bradley, Taylor, Green, White, Johnson and McGee sounds very promising.
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Re: Guess its two options this offseason
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2012, 08:10:26 AM »

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McGee is.a joke.... Having him on this team would be like having Kobe as a spokesperson for that hotel he stayed at in Colorado a few years beck

Re: Guess its two options this offseason
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2012, 08:16:21 AM »

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I think Doc, KG, PP and RR can bring the best of McGee. He was in a mess in Washington. He's legit 7footer, extremely athletic and great shotblocker with potential to be great defensive player. I dont think we have better options
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Re: Guess its two options this offseason
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 08:22:54 AM »

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McGee is.a joke.... Having him on this team would be like having Kobe as a spokesperson for that hotel he stayed at in Colorado a few years beck

You haven't watched McGee a lot if you say so. McGee have the weapons to be a great player. And he is a pretty smart player (a lot smarter than his blooper reel tells you) who was wasted on a selfish and dumb Washington "team".

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 08:27:23 AM »

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I actually like McGee too, because he really had no one to teach him how to play. Celtics can help him become a lot better

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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2012, 08:31:11 AM »

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McGee gained some respect around the league with his limited time in Denver.
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 08:53:49 AM »

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There are plenty of other options.  Renounce everybody, move Pierce, and start over.  Renounce everybody, keep Pierce, and start partially over.  Renounce everybody, move Pierce, move Rondo, and really start completely over.  Bring back people on one year contracts only and plan for summer 2013.  Go all in and try to make one last run and ignore future cap space.  And I'm sure there are even other options.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 08:54:17 AM »

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I don't think there's any chance Danny offers Ray 6 million.
I think KG probably takes less than 8 million to give us a legitimate shot at a title.

In a perfect world, Ray walks and we have that 6 million.
Cut 3-4 million from KG's purse and we have 9-10 million up our sleeves.

Jeff Green is going to command very little and will likely take a one year cheap deal because we stuck by him through his horrible luck.

I honestly think we could get KG+Green for a combined 6-8 million- maybe even less.
I would love them to go after a solid big man but I'm not exactly sure who's available because hoopsworld's FA database is apparently out of date.
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2012, 08:57:14 AM »

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I think the C's are rightly more interested in Ersan Ilyasova than in McGee.

I also think Ray is allowed to move on, KG returns.  Green, Stiemer and maybe Wilcox and Pietrus are resigned.  Dooling just turned 32 and I can even see the possibility of him coming back for the minimum.

Danny brings home only 2 draft picks, a 4/5 and a swingman.

Bass and Ray could be used in S&Ts.

The question is whether he does something with Pierce, either a trade or amnesty.

Re: Guess its two options this offseason
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2012, 09:09:06 AM »

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I have no clue why everyone keeps wanting to sign pietres. He was very ineefective the whole playoffs. He may of knocked down maybe 2 of his 3's but the dude air balled one! He is not worth of a resign we need to look elsewhere.

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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2012, 09:47:12 AM »

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If they really want to win 1 more ring, Ray and KG should come back for low pay. KG has made $290mm playing ball the last 17 years. Ray has made $178mm.
They should not need to play for money.

If I am them I make a deal with DA to play for a few million each and have a say in who the team signs.

With depth, this team would have beat the Heat. Both players are still effective but need to play a lot less minutes.

Re: Guess its two options this offseason
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2012, 09:52:41 AM »

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McGee gained some respect around the league with his limited time in Denver.
I don't know why. He was no different than he was in Washington.

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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2012, 10:07:54 AM »

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I actually like McGee too, because he really had no one to teach him how to play. Celtics can help him become a lot better

That's a myth that needs to end. Glen Davis didn't play better because he was a Celtic, he was a distraction through and through. Similar things can be said about Walker, Giddens, Pruitt, Sam Cassell who refused to ever pass to anyone except KG, ect.

Sure, everyone respects KG, Paul and Ray but its nature vs. nurture and it's just some peoples nature to be a knucklehead and stubborn and lazy.

Also, McGee is a center. That would force KG back to PF where he would go back to struggling mightily, unless you want to bench McGee which I think would be a waste of resources.

Just sayin

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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2012, 10:20:49 AM »

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I actually like McGee too, because he really had no one to teach him how to play. Celtics can help him become a lot better

That's a myth that needs to end. Glen Davis didn't play better because he was a Celtic, he was a distraction through and through. Similar things can be said about Walker, Giddens, Pruitt, Sam Cassell who refused to ever pass to anyone except KG, ect.

Sure, everyone respects KG, Paul and Ray but its nature vs. nurture and it's just some peoples nature to be a knucklehead and stubborn and lazy.

Also, McGee is a center. That would force KG back to PF where he would go back to struggling mightily, unless you want to bench McGee which I think would be a waste of resources.

Just sayin
I want mcgee but i agree the whole mentoring thing is a myth. JJJ will be a beast next year then, and rondo would be stroking  like ray ray or PP.

Re: Guess its two options this offseason
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2012, 10:25:29 AM »

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I agree in the general sense that there are only two approaches but who knows the details.  The options are try to patch the team up and go for another big-3 lead run or blow it up and rebuild.  I think KG is the linchpin of the which way to go.

I think KG can still be a key guy on a top NBA team but he can't be the only ligit big man on the team.  If we can get a David West calibar guy at either the 4 or the 5 (with KG taking the other spot), then with Pierce, Rondo and whomever, (there would still be some other important pieces to fill in of course) we have a ligit team.  If we can't fill that other big man spot with that level of talent, then I don't think it is worth bring KG back and we may as well blow it up.

Brandon Bass or Jeff Green or Wilcox is just not enough front court talent to go along with KG at this point in KG's career.  I don't think we necessarily need Dwight Howard (and I actually don't even want him) but at a minimum someone in the David West, Paul Gasol, maybe even Chris Kaman tier of talent.

If we can't sign/trade for the KG complement that we need, I would prefer they just blow it up.  KG can't do it all anymore and he will try like a warrier and then break down.  I don't want to watch that.  If they do blow it up, who knows where that will go.