Danny Ainge CAN NOT split this group

[Global Celtic]

Doc says this is probably the best group he's ever coached. LeBron and Wade said in the press conference they never faced this kind of chemistry in the postseason. KG and Ray really changed our culture, made us proud of caring for the Celtics again. Rondo became incredible in this environment. Paul is Paul, one of the best Celtics ever.

Whomever Danny brings to this team he MUST resign KG and Ray. He thinks the original Big Three stayed together for too long, but you can't find chemistry, heart and grit around the corner. Ainge is known for pulling the trigger but I don't trust that: we have a truly SPECIAL group right now. We just need young talent to complement it, to fit in this culture.  It was a mistake to trade Perk and I hope he doesn't repeat it by not bringing this core for next season.

[Frontierboy]

Yeah, there are some things you can't measure in stats and that something is what this group has.... that being said, you need a balance of stats and the intangibles.

[Freebo]

Doc says this is probably the best group he's ever coached. LeBron and Wade said in the press conference they never faced this kind of chemistry in the postseason. KG and Ray really changed our culture, made us proud of caring for the Celtics again. Rondo became incredible in this environment. Paul is Paul, one of the best Celtics ever.

Whomever Danny brings to this team he MUST resign KG and Ray. He thinks the original Big Three stayed together for too long, but you can't find chemistry, heart and grit around the corner. Ainge is known for pulling the trigger but I don't trust that: we have a truly SPECIAL group right now. We just need young talent to complement it, to fit in this culture.  It was a mistake to trade Perk and I hope he doesn't repeat it by not bringing this core for next season.

he definitely can, and he probably will, or won't, who knows. Look, I love'em as much as anyone. but if they do re-sign, it will be for much less money, and for lesser roles(if they are able to do that). I still think this is pretty fresh, and we all need to just take a week or so, to straight things out in our minds. Ofc, we don't make any decisions, but I mean like, even the Celtics staff & players, should just get past this moment and see what is best for the team.

If, we can get one all star big man, a monster center(but there aren't any), i think we can keep this core, and have them coming off the bench and holding the team together. I also think we need them, in order to make a transition, from a generation to another, even if they're legs will no longer be able to absorb big minutes, they have a lot to teach our young celtics.

I would like to have something like:
Rondo/Moore
Avery/Allen
Jeff/Pierce
?Wilcox/KG/
Missing Center/JJJ?/Steemer/Hollins

I would love additions like Ersan Ilyasova, Hamed Haddadi(I know what you're thinking, but is big, he is coachable, i like what he can bring).

Just my opinion, don't bash me for it

[CelticsFanNC]

  A good GM cannot do it stick with something that was once great a year to long because it will get UGLY.

  We need to be more athletic at the wing spots.  We need someone to get a rebound when it counts.

  Love this team and have great respect for them but it is now time to move on into our future.  Danny Ainge MUST split this group up.  I'd bring back KG but not Ray and I'd test the market to see what Paul Pierce's value is.  We cannot compete with Ray and Paul both starting at the wing spots.  We need better athletes to get the best out of Rondo.

 

[BostonNative]

And we dont need more shooters, thats why we dont get rebounds now. We need wings who know how to ISO and finish. We need big men who know how to BOX OUT. Time for a change, i say we get J.R smith we need a player who can bring excitement to Boston.

[Bahku]

Unfortunately he can, and he already tried to twice this year, though I wish otherwise.

[chambers]

  A good GM cannot do it stick with something that was once great a year to long because it will get UGLY.

  We need to be more athletic at the wing spots.  We need someone to get a rebound when it counts.

  Love this team and have great respect for them but it is now time to move on into our future.  Danny Ainge MUST split this group up.  I'd bring back KG but not Ray and I'd test the market to see what Paul Pierce's value is.  We cannot compete with Ray and Paul both starting at the wing spots.  We need better athletes to get the best out of Rondo.

TP this is exactly right.
Paul and Ray were both injured this post season and could never produce at a level they're accustomed to.
That being said, we MUST test the waters with Pierce to see if we can get a top 10 pick.
I feel if we build around KG at center and Rondo running the show we have a real shot at a title for 2 more years.
If Ray wants to come back on the mega cheap then fine, but he's too proud and his family wants the extra 4 million other teams can offer him.
I think Pierce is being moved on draft night along with some picks to move up. Maybe to the Nets? God knows they need some names to attract Deron and Dwight and if they could get those three they'd have their own superstar trio.
*Move Pierce and get cap space AND a top 10 pick.
*Re-sign KG on the mega cheap.
*Sign some solid bench players who are comfortable scoring+rebounding 15/8 per game (Lamar Odom/Bass?)
*re-sign Jeff Green on the mega cheap to a one year deal whilst we see if he has anything left(which he 100% does- he's doing this as a favor to us)whilst we put up with Pierce's contract on the books.
*If we get KG and Green cheap, go after the BEST possible big man to help KG inside.

The above is contingent on whether KG would actually come back for another year or two if Pierce wasn't in Boston- which could be an issue.

[cman88]

Pierce is not being traded if KG comes back(which apparantly according Jmac/Woj is the plan)

the only clear thing is that this big 3 cant carry the team like they used to.

If danny wants to have another go around..we MUST have a solid 10man rotation like the Spurs do and limit minutes

[JSD]

Rondo became incredible in this environment.

This is my favorite part of the OP because it is true. I believe there is a strong correlation between Rondo's uprising and the environment he has been playing in. That is why I am on board with bringing KG and Allen back and renouncing everyone else. Allow Jajuan Johnson the opportunity to start and the rookies coming in the opportunity to play big minutes. Make these moves with the full knowledge that there will be some growing pains but that there is still an outside shot of making a playoff run similar to this season or better. Also do this knowing that the experience for our young players increases the likelihood they become good players as they are shown by the example of 4 hall of famers.


Fill out the rest of the squad with veteran minimum contracts after using the $7-10 million in cap space remaining. I would be surprised and a little disappointed if something close to what I’ve described here is not what is done going forward.

[thirstyboots18]

I think people are looking at this from the wrong perspective.  I want kg, ra, pp and rr back...but as far as the "big three", I don't feel that players who are complimentary to them should be brought in, I think that they should make the adjustment now and be the complimentary players.  It is time for them to step back  and support the rebuilding.  With their experience and skill the transition could be seamless.  With the transition, their basketball careers could be extended. They would have the opportunity to play together for another year or two. As potential "sixth men" they should have lowered playing time and less injuries.  It would be a bench to be feared! I believe that Danny has already started a new core in RR, AB and JG,  and that can be added to.In case of emergency, any one of the big three is more than capable of taking  a starting role.

Just my   opinion.

[BostonNative]

We struggled on offense, PP's flop is no longer being called. I agree i am jealous of the spurs. If they had KG instead of Timmy they would of went all the way easy.

Spurs did what they needed to do got YOUNG PRODUCTIVE players coming off the bench. All everyone keeps saying is renouce everyone (save cape) look f*** cap ok. Apparently our current team not good enough. I want to sweep teams not go to round 7's. I want to feel like a threat not be a underdog.

peitrus, dooling, hollins, DAINELS,  all need TO GO!

[Global Celtic]

Pierce is not being traded if KG comes back(which apparantly according Jmac/Woj is the plan)

the only clear thing is that this big 3 cant carry the team like they used to.

If danny wants to have another go around..we MUST have a solid 10man rotation like the Spurs do and limit minutes

Exactly. That's why we need to add talent to this core group. The Big Four needs young talent to complement their strenghts and hide their weaknesses. But the culture that Ray, KG and Paul instaled in this team and organization must be preserved. We need this core group intact for one, maybe two more years.

[wdleehi]

If there is a clear way to help this team to rebuild around Rondo, yes Ainge can split this group up.



What he can't do is throw out stupid money at fringe stars.  One year deals, OK. 

[jarufu]

I think people are looking at this from the wrong perspective.  I want kg, ra, pp and rr back...but as far as the "big three", I don't feel that players who are complimentary to them should be brought in, I think that they should make the adjustment now and be the complimentary players.  It is time for them to step back  and support the rebuilding.  With their experience and skill the transition could be seamless.  With the transition, their basketball careers could be extended. They would have the opportunity to play together for another year or two. As potential "sixth men" they should have lowered playing time and less injuries.  It would be a bench to be feared! I believe that Danny has already started a new core in RR, AB and JG,  and that can be added to.In case of emergency, any one of the big three is more than capable of taking  a starting role.

Just my   opinion.

I'm with TB on this one.  This is my hope for next years team. 10 deep, rested, healthy . . they could go all the way.

[tyrone biggums]

  A good GM cannot do it stick with something that was once great a year to long because it will get UGLY.

  We need to be more athletic at the wing spots.  We need someone to get a rebound when it counts.

  Love this team and have great respect for them but it is now time to move on into our future.  Danny Ainge MUST split this group up.  I'd bring back KG but not Ray and I'd test the market to see what Paul Pierce's value is.  We cannot compete with Ray and Paul both starting at the wing spots.  We need better athletes to get the best out of Rondo.

TP this is exactly right.
Paul and Ray were both injured this post season and could never produce at a level they're accustomed to.
That being said, we MUST test the waters with Pierce to see if we can get a top 10 pick.
I feel if we build around KG at center and Rondo running the show we have a real shot at a title for 2 more years.
If Ray wants to come back on the mega cheap then fine, but he's too proud and his family wants the extra 4 million other teams can offer him.
I think Pierce is being moved on draft night along with some picks to move up. Maybe to the Nets? God knows they need some names to attract Deron and Dwight and if they could get those three they'd have their own superstar trio.
*Move Pierce and get cap space AND a top 10 pick.
*Re-sign KG on the mega cheap.
*Sign some solid bench players who are comfortable scoring+rebounding 15/8 per game (Lamar Odom/Bass?)
*re-sign Jeff Green on the mega cheap to a one year deal whilst we see if he has anything left(which he 100% does- he's doing this as a favor to us)whilst we put up with Pierce's contract on the books.
*If we get KG and Green cheap, go after the BEST possible big man to help KG inside.

The above is contingent on whether KG would actually come back for another year or two if Pierce wasn't in Boston- which could be an issue.

I disagree with moving Pierce...remember this team made the ECF without Wilcox Bradley and Jeff Green. Those are three huge pieces to the bench. This team doesn't need to be blown up yet plus with the talent on this team you're looking at a team that still will contend for the 8th seed if KG and Ray Ray walk in a weak conference. So the choice is if you want to pick in the middle of the draft year in and out and be a mediocre 8th/9th team in the East or do you want to be a 3-4 seed and try and make magic happen in the playoffs.

They'll still have a little money to spend after signing Green KG and Allen again...plus they have two 1st rounders that they can use to move up and draft someone in the lottery most likely. Why would they split this team up given those circumstances?