Amnesty Pierce If The Celtics Fall Short?

[JSD]

I know he's fully granted next year but what about the year after? Can the Celtics or does Pierce have the ability to opt out?

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The Celtics could add an additional $17 million to their cap space after this season if they Amnesty Pierce. That could put them at about $40 million under the cap with Rondo and Bradly signed up assuming Bass opts out. What do you guys think? Should the Celtics take a serious look at this or is it just me?

[Roy H.]

I know he's fully granted next year but what about the year after? Can the Celtics or does Pierce have the ability to opt out?

It's partially guaranteed, on a team option.  The contract amount is $15.33 million.

Originally, $4 million was guaranteed.  However, since Pierce played in 50% of the games this year, $5 million is now guaranteed.

The Celtics have to elect whether to pick up his contract by early July 2013, I believe.

[henr1k]

I know he's fully granted next year but what about the year after? Can the Celtics or does Pierce have the ability to opt out?

Final season is only 5M guaranteed. Fully guaranteed if not waived until June 30th 2013

[JSD]

I know he's fully granted next year but what about the year after? Can the Celtics or does Pierce have the ability to opt out?

It's partially guaranteed, on a team option.  The contract amount is $15.33 million.

Originally, $4 million was guaranteed.  However, since Pierce played in 50% of the games this year, $5 million is now guaranteed.

The Celtics have to elect whether to pick up his contract by early July 2013, I believe.

So basically, if the Celtics amnesty Pierce they owe him that $21 million he opted out of to restructure. Interesting.

Don't the Celtics have to take a good hard look at using the Amnesty Clause on Pierce this summer if the Celtics fall short?

[Roy H.]

I know he's fully granted next year but what about the year after? Can the Celtics or does Pierce have the ability to opt out?

It's partially guaranteed, on a team option.  The contract amount is $15.33 million.

Originally, $4 million was guaranteed.  However, since Pierce played in 50% of the games this year, $5 million is now guaranteed.

The Celtics have to elect whether to pick up his contract by early July 2013, I believe.

So basically, if the Celtics amnesty Pierce they owe him that $21 million he opted out of to restructure. Interesting.

Don't the Celtics have to take a good hard look at using the Amnesty Clause on Pierce this summer if the Celtics fall short?

They have to consider it.  However, they'd have to be very confident they could actually use the cap space on somebody who could make an impact.  I'm skeptical of that, and selfishly, I'd prefer to see Pierce retire in green.

[JSD]

I know he's fully granted next year but what about the year after? Can the Celtics or does Pierce have the ability to opt out?

It's partially guaranteed, on a team option.  The contract amount is $15.33 million.

Originally, $4 million was guaranteed.  However, since Pierce played in 50% of the games this year, $5 million is now guaranteed.

The Celtics have to elect whether to pick up his contract by early July 2013, I believe.

So basically, if the Celtics amnesty Pierce they owe him that $21 million he opted out of to restructure. Interesting.

Don't the Celtics have to take a good hard look at using the Amnesty Clause on Pierce this summer if the Celtics fall short?

They have to consider it.  However, they'd have to be very confident they could actually use the cap space on somebody who could make an impact.  I'm skeptical of that, and selfishly, I'd prefer to see Pierce retire in green.

Is there anyway Pierce could resign here after being amnestied?

Also, and a little off topic, at what point can teams over the cap no longer sign and trade players? Is that this summer or next summer?

[Carhole]

I know he's fully granted next year but what about the year after? Can the Celtics or does Pierce have the ability to opt out?

It's partially guaranteed, on a team option.  The contract amount is $15.33 million.

Originally, $4 million was guaranteed.  However, since Pierce played in 50% of the games this year, $5 million is now guaranteed.

The Celtics have to elect whether to pick up his contract by early July 2013, I believe.

So basically, if the Celtics amnesty Pierce they owe him that $21 million he opted out of to restructure. Interesting.

Don't the Celtics have to take a good hard look at using the Amnesty Clause on Pierce this summer if the Celtics fall short?

To do what with the money? From what Pierce has shown this year  are they going to get a top 5 small forward or shooting guard for him that knows the team defensive scheme and can work within the offense like he does now?

He is a low level all star - if you can truly better yourself then you always have to make the move but I have no reason to believe PP wont be almost the exact same player next year that he was this year. When he outplayed melo twice in the regular season, won one NBA player of the month, made another all star game and continued to defend the games best wings at a high level.

Whats the point, unless there is a wink wink deal that he is coming back on the cheap

[JSD]

I know he's fully granted next year but what about the year after? Can the Celtics or does Pierce have the ability to opt out?

It's partially guaranteed, on a team option.  The contract amount is $15.33 million.

Originally, $4 million was guaranteed.  However, since Pierce played in 50% of the games this year, $5 million is now guaranteed.

The Celtics have to elect whether to pick up his contract by early July 2013, I believe.

So basically, if the Celtics amnesty Pierce they owe him that $21 million he opted out of to restructure. Interesting.

Don't the Celtics have to take a good hard look at using the Amnesty Clause on Pierce this summer if the Celtics fall short?

They have to consider it.  However, they'd have to be very confident they could actually use the cap space on somebody who could make an impact.  I'm skeptical of that, and selfishly, I'd prefer to see Pierce retire in green.

Also, and a little off topic, at what point can teams over the cap no longer sign and trade players? Is that this summer or next summer?

Ok, so sign and trades aren't disallowed for tax paying teams until next off-season.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q88

So maybe that changes things as we can sign and trade Bass, Allen Ect.

[Roy H.]

Is there anyway Pierce could resign here after being amnestied?

Unfortunately not.

[rondohondo]

Is there anyway Pierce could resign here after being amnestied?

Unfortunately not.

could pp retire then come back half way through the season?

[Who]

No -- Pierce is too good and free agent options are too limited. Unless some incredible trade opportunity magically appears, there is no good reason to amnesty Pierce.

[Roy H.]

Is there anyway Pierce could resign here after being amnestied?

Unfortunately not.

could pp retire then come back half way through the season?

When a player officially retires, they can't come back until one year later, unless all 29 other teams approve of the comeback.

If Pierce unofficially retires, it wouldn't do a lot for our cap, unless there's a buyout.  If there's a buyout, he can't come back.

[KY Celts fan]

No. No. Absolutely not.

Pierce is a Celtics lifer. He deserves to be play for the C's for as long as he wants to. If he's 65 and still wants a roster spot, then give it to him.

[action781]

No. No. Absolutely not.

Pierce is a Celtics lifer. He deserves to be play for the C's for as long as he wants to. If he's 65 and still wants a roster spot, then give it to him.

You sound like more of a Pierce fan than a Celtics fan here.

I agree to not amnesty him, but only because I don't see how it could make our team significantly better.  If we could use that cap space to bring in a free agent that would significantly improve our franchise, I think its a no-brainer and Danny Ainge's past comments indicates that he thinks the same.

And after next season, I think we have to evaluate the situation similarly.

[bfrombleacher]

No. No. Absolutely not.

Pierce is a Celtics lifer. He deserves to be play for the C's for as long as he wants to. If he's 65 and still wants a roster spot, then give it to him.

You sound like more of a Pierce fan than a Celtics fan here.

I agree to not amnesty him, but only because I don't see how it could make our team significantly better.  If we could use that cap space to bring in a free agent that would significantly improve our franchise, I think its a no-brainer and Danny Ainge's past comments indicates that he thinks the same.

And after next season, I think we have to evaluate the situation similarly.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. As a Celtics fan Pierce has done too much for us to dump him like that.