Jackie Macmullan: KG is coming back to Boston next year

[BballTim]

I would be very unhappy if we traded Bradley, he's so young and is only going to get better. If we move him I'd want someone who is more not less established than him.

I wouldn't care if we traded Bradley.  Kid has spunk and is a good defender, but his ceiling is "poor man's Jason Terry"... Only so much you can get out of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard.

  Give Bradley a season without shoulder problems and you'll see more than a poor man's Jason Terry (who, as a player, has little in common with Bradley btw).

[LarBrd33]

I would be very unhappy if we traded Bradley, he's so young and is only going to get better. If we move him I'd want someone who is more not less established than him.

I wouldn't care if we traded Bradley.  Kid has spunk and is a good defender, but his ceiling is "poor man's Jason Terry"... Only so much you can get out of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard.

Jason Terry wishes he had Avery Bradley athleticism and defensive ability. I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar, but I take a "poor man's" Jason Terry as an insult.

You shouldn't take it as an insult.  Bradley will never been the scorer that Terry is.  I agree Bradley has more defensive intensity, but I doubt he'll have as good a career as Terry has.  I already noticed issues with playing Rondo and Bradley together... usually it meant Rondo was stuck guarding the shooting guard.  Against Philly, for example, I noticed Rondo stuck guarding a guy a half foot taller than him (Evan Turner).  The size issue is the same thing that held Terry back from being a major star... Still, he's a former 6th man of the year, NCAA champion and NBA champion.  Bradley will be lucky to have half the career Terry has had.

[BballTim]

I would be very unhappy if we traded Bradley, he's so young and is only going to get better. If we move him I'd want someone who is more not less established than him.

I wouldn't care if we traded Bradley.  Kid has spunk and is a good defender, but his ceiling is "poor man's Jason Terry"... Only so much you can get out of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard.

Jason Terry wishes he had Avery Bradley athleticism and defensive ability. I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar, but I take a "poor man's" Jason Terry as an insult.

You shouldn't take it as an insult.  Bradley will never been the scorer that Terry is.  I agree Bradley has more defensive intensity, but I doubt he'll have as good a career as Terry has.  I already noticed issues with playing Rondo and Bradley together... usually it meant Rondo was stuck guarding the shooting guard.  Against Philly, for example, I noticed Rondo stuck guarding a guy a half foot taller than him (Evan Turner).  The size issue is the same thing that held Terry back from being a major star... Still, he's a former 6th man of the year, NCAA champion and NBA champion.  Bradley will be lucky to have half the career Terry has had.

  Terry's a career 16 a game scorer who's never been much of a defender. Bradley was scoring 12 a game as a starter and he's still younger than Terry was when he entered the league. You're way too premature to make a claim like that.

[RJ87]

I would be very unhappy if we traded Bradley, he's so young and is only going to get better. If we move him I'd want someone who is more not less established than him.

I wouldn't care if we traded Bradley.  Kid has spunk and is a good defender, but his ceiling is "poor man's Jason Terry"... Only so much you can get out of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard.

Jason Terry wishes he had Avery Bradley athleticism and defensive ability. I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar, but I take a "poor man's" Jason Terry as an insult.

You shouldn't take it as an insult.  Bradley will never been the scorer that Terry is.  I agree Bradley has more defensive intensity, but I doubt he'll have as good a career as Terry has.  I already noticed issues with playing Rondo and Bradley together... usually it meant Rondo was stuck guarding the shooting guard.  Against Philly, for example, I noticed Rondo stuck guarding a guy a half foot taller than him (Evan Turner).  The size issue is the same thing that held Terry back from being a major star... Still, he's a former 6th man of the year, NCAA champion and NBA champion.  Bradley will be lucky to have half the career Terry has had.

I disagree. Bradley and Terry are totally different players. With major minutes, Bradley can average 15+ pts per game with his slashing ability and his improving jumper. Couple that with his defense and I'd take that over Jason Terry everyday and twice on Sunday.

As far as the height issue - I admit, I've had concerns about in the past but the SG position is not exactly cookie-cutter specific height-wise. Yes, Evan is 6'7" and we had issues guarding him, but that's not the standard. I think Bradley can get stronger and guard bigger players (his 6'7" wingspan can help with that as well). I just don't think it's fair to sell him short at the tender age of 21. I don't know what his ceiling is, but he puts in the work and it's starting to show.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Man, i hope KG tells Danny:
-i'm gonna stay another year. I would take vet.min if you can bring me another all-star big to kick Heats ass next year...

look having KG and PP back would be great. we all know they can play another year or two. The point is they cannot do it with the minutes they are logging now especially over the course of a full NBA season. WE MUST get a star big man to keep KG fresh all year and through the playoffs. we also need to replace Ray allen with a very good SG. no two ways about it and improve the bench. We also need a small forward who can keep pierce fresh. Could we use Bass instead? We would need someone else then for the power forward spot.

[clover]

Man, i hope KG tells Danny:
-i'm gonna stay another year. I would take vet.min if you can bring me another all-star big to kick Heats ass next year...

look having KG and PP back would be great. we all know they can play another year or two. The point is they cannot do it with the minutes they are logging now especially over the course of a full NBA season. WE MUST get a star big man to keep KG fresh all year and through the playoffs. we also need to replace Ray allen with a very good SG. no two ways about it and improve the bench. We also need a small forward who can keep pierce fresh. Could we use Bass instead? We would need someone else then for the power forward spot.

I think the starting SG spot is one of the C's lesser worries right now.  While I'd be happy to have KG back and starting for another year, I think they need a better PF and sacrilege that it may be, I think Pierce needs to become their sixth man by midseason next year or get traded.

Danny needs to try to land a future star at the 3, 4 or 5 spot in the draft if he can--and it sounds like he's trying to trade up in order to do just that.

[anthony83]

Great News!,KG this season is playing very very well, spectacular,he must return next year with Ray Allen. If Ainge sign to the right players, we will have another chance next year.

[LarBrd33]

I would be very unhappy if we traded Bradley, he's so young and is only going to get better. If we move him I'd want someone who is more not less established than him.

I wouldn't care if we traded Bradley.  Kid has spunk and is a good defender, but his ceiling is "poor man's Jason Terry"... Only so much you can get out of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard.

Jason Terry wishes he had Avery Bradley athleticism and defensive ability. I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar, but I take a "poor man's" Jason Terry as an insult.

You shouldn't take it as an insult.  Bradley will never been the scorer that Terry is.  I agree Bradley has more defensive intensity, but I doubt he'll have as good a career as Terry has.  I already noticed issues with playing Rondo and Bradley together... usually it meant Rondo was stuck guarding the shooting guard.  Against Philly, for example, I noticed Rondo stuck guarding a guy a half foot taller than him (Evan Turner).  The size issue is the same thing that held Terry back from being a major star... Still, he's a former 6th man of the year, NCAA champion and NBA champion.  Bradley will be lucky to have half the career Terry has had.

I disagree. Bradley and Terry are totally different players. With major minutes, Bradley can average 15+ pts per game with his slashing ability and his improving jumper. Couple that with his defense and I'd take that over Jason Terry everyday and twice on Sunday.

As far as the height issue - I admit, I've had concerns about in the past but the SG position is not exactly cookie-cutter specific height-wise. Yes, Evan is 6'7" and we had issues guarding him, but that's not the standard. I think Bradley can get stronger and guard bigger players (his 6'7" wingspan can help with that as well). I just don't think it's fair to sell him short at the tender age of 21. I don't know what his ceiling is, but he puts in the work and it's starting to show.

I agree with you guys to a certain extent.  Bradley has potential.  But it's just potential right now.  I'm not banking our future on a 6'2, 180 pound shooting guard who had some decent shooting games during a half-month of play.  Maybe Terry is a bad comparison... maybe "poor man's midget Tony Allen without the mental lapses" is a better comparison.  And although I wouldn't trade "poor man's midget Tony Allen without the mental lapses" just for the sake of trading him... I WOULD consider trading "poor man's midget Tony Allen without the mental lapses" as part of a larger package if it meant getting a guy like Cousins or a top 5 pick.  No question I'd pull the trigger on that. 

I think we need to roll the dice on a franchise player to pair with Rondo for the future.  I'd be thrilled if our current franchise player, Kevin Garnett, returned for another season... but at his age we need to start planting seeds for the future.  Bradley is destined to be a role player, I think.  If we can land a major piece utilizing him as a trade chip, I'm all for it.

[CFAN38]

I agree with you guys to a certain extent.  Bradley has potential.  But it's just potential right now.  I'm not banking our future on a 6'2, 180 pound shooting guard who had some decent shooting games during a half-month of play.  Maybe Terry is a bad comparison... maybe "poor man's midget Tony Allen without the mental lapses" is a better comparison.  And although I wouldn't trade "poor man's midget Tony Allen without the mental lapses" just for the sake of trading him... I WOULD consider trading "poor man's midget Tony Allen without the mental lapses" as part of a larger package if it meant getting a guy like Cousins or a top 5 pick.  No question I'd pull the trigger on that.

First off AB is is 6'2 without shoes meaning by typical NBA standards he is 6'3.5 and he weighted 180 at the combines he looks to have gained some weight from last season. Being that he is still so young and shot the ball so well the last half of this season I have high hopes for AB. Everyone already knows that he is an elite defender. Where he may struggle against the 6'6+ guards in the league he still is above average against them and the league is well on its way to being small guard dominate. Look at Brad Beal he is a 6'3 SG and being predicted to go as high as number 2 in the up coming draft. I expect AB to average around 12pts a game next season while shooting 38%+ from 3 and being a 1st or 2nd team all defensive player. I do not expect Danny to even consider trading him.

Also why would Sac even want to trade away cousins?

[guava_wrench]

I would be very unhappy if we traded Bradley, he's so young and is only going to get better. If we move him I'd want someone who is more not less established than him.

I wouldn't care if we traded Bradley.  Kid has spunk and is a good defender, but his ceiling is "poor man's Jason Terry"... Only so much you can get out of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard.

Jason Terry wishes he had Avery Bradley athleticism and defensive ability. I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar, but I take a "poor man's" Jason Terry as an insult.

You shouldn't take it as an insult.  Bradley will never been the scorer that Terry is.  I agree Bradley has more defensive intensity, but I doubt he'll have as good a career as Terry has.  I already noticed issues with playing Rondo and Bradley together... usually it meant Rondo was stuck guarding the shooting guard.  Against Philly, for example, I noticed Rondo stuck guarding a guy a half foot taller than him (Evan Turner).  The size issue is the same thing that held Terry back from being a major star... Still, he's a former 6th man of the year, NCAA champion and NBA champion.  Bradley will be lucky to have half the career Terry has had.

I disagree. Bradley and Terry are totally different players. With major minutes, Bradley can average 15+ pts per game with his slashing ability and his improving jumper. Couple that with his defense and I'd take that over Jason Terry everyday and twice on Sunday.

As far as the height issue - I admit, I've had concerns about in the past but the SG position is not exactly cookie-cutter specific height-wise. Yes, Evan is 6'7" and we had issues guarding him, but that's not the standard. I think Bradley can get stronger and guard bigger players (his 6'7" wingspan can help with that as well). I just don't think it's fair to sell him short at the tender age of 21. I don't know what his ceiling is, but he puts in the work and it's starting to show.

I agree with you guys to a certain extent.  Bradley has potential.  But it's just potential right now.  I'm not banking our future on a 6'2, 180 pound shooting guard who had some decent shooting games during a half-month of play.  Maybe Terry is a bad comparison... maybe "poor man's midget Tony Allen without the mental lapses" is a better comparison.  And although I wouldn't trade "poor man's midget Tony Allen without the mental lapses" just for the sake of trading him... I WOULD consider trading "poor man's midget Tony Allen without the mental lapses" as part of a larger package if it meant getting a guy like Cousins or a top 5 pick.  No question I'd pull the trigger on that. 

I think we need to roll the dice on a franchise player to pair with Rondo for the future.  I'd be thrilled if our current franchise player, Kevin Garnett, returned for another season... but at his age we need to start planting seeds for the future.  Bradley is destined to be a role player, I think.  If we can land a major piece utilizing him as a trade chip, I'm all for it.

Why the comparison with Tony Allen when Bradley is far more dynamic on offense? It is because Bradley has already shown he is an elite defender. It isn't just potential. Bradley has also shown that the team is effective with him playing. This was often not the case with TA here.

Trading Avery for a pick would be trading him for a guy likely only 1 year younger or the same age as Avery who has proven much less about an ability to compete in the NBA than Avery has.

This comment is inexcusable:

"who had some decent shooting games during a half-month of play"

I'm sorry but what are you are talking about? Avery shot over 50% from the field 3 months in a row to end the seaon. He had a .498 FG%, and .407 3P% FOR THE SEASON. Please confirm your opinions before trying to convince others. Don't just make stuff up.

Would it be nice if he had 2 more inches? Yes. We can easily find 6'4" stiffs if people like.

[LooseCannon]

Hopefully, the Celtics will be able to have my dream unit on the floor of Rondo, KG, and three guys who are good three point shooters and good defenders without being smallball.

[FreeGreen]

Your dream unit already happened in 2008:

Rondo, KG, Pierce, Allen, and James Posey.  (Or Eddie House)

[mctyson]

Avery Bradley is a 1st team All NBA Defensive player in the making, and he is 21. He is not getting traded unless it is for an All-Star.

I don't see why we would trade our two picks at 20-21 to move up to 14-16, unless it is to get Austin Rivers. That is the only thing that makes sense.

[GreenFaith1819]

This just makes SO MUCH sense

Just do it like San Antonio, BOS!

Keep KG, Ray and Paul fresh...and that starts with KG coming back next year.

Build the RIGHT WAY around those three...just shore THOSE THREE up...just like San Antonio. BOS could keep this going for another year or two, depending on health.

We already have AB coming back...Rondo is challenging CP3 for best PG rights...bring back J Green, perhaps Wilcox...Stiemer...draft wisely...

I hope KG doesn't retire until Tim Duncan does. I'd LOVE for those two to leave the game together.

[j804]

This just makes SO MUCH sense

Just do it like San Antonio, BOS!

Keep KG, Ray and Paul fresh...and that starts with KG coming back next year.

Build the RIGHT WAY around those three...just shore THOSE THREE up...just like San Antonio. BOS could keep this going for another year or two, depending on health.

We already have AB coming back...Rondo is challenging CP3 for best PG rights...bring back J Green, perhaps Wilcox...Stiemer...draft wisely...

I hope KG doesn't retire until Tim Duncan does. I'd LOVE for those two to leave the game together.

I envision the same if we get a full training camp under our belt, have the young guys confident and actually contribute keeping us fresh (Bradley, Green, whoever else we pickup), get a backup for KG and real center and if Rondo can work on and nail down that free throw midrange jumper a la Parker we can be scary.

I am most stoked about the trio of Bradley/Green/Rondo and KG is the cherry on top.