Potential Moves the Lakers Could Make With Gasol

[JBcat]

Chicago?  Deng and Asik?  I don't know.

Kinda really love this idea, though LA would probably want a 3rd team involved to get a PF out of the deal (Taj Gibson is probably too much to include, and I believe is an RFA)

Gasol and Artest for Boozer and Deng. The money adds up almost perfectly.

Yeah, I was thinking about that one too. I decided against it because of Boozer's slow footed defense. I think they need a big man with quick feet who can cover ground defensively. I don't think Boozer adds enough at this juncture of his career + specifically on that Lakers team, to be an enticing player for LA.

Personally, I don't think there is that much between Boozer (offensively orientated role player) and Taj Gibson (defender/rebounder) talent wise already ... when you add in fit for that Lakers team, I think Gibson is the superior option (athleticism, defense) + when you add in salaries (say $6mil vs what $14-15mil) and cap management (Lakers luxury tax issues), he is a much superior option for LA.

If LA could manage to get all three guys - Deng, Taj and Asik - that would be a very attractive proposal for them. It would leave Chicago with a nice three player big man rotation with Pau Gasol, Joakim Noah and Carlos Boozer too. Ronnie Brewer taking over SF duties. Hefty price to pay (for Chicag) but it may be worth it (to have that big man rotation).

I don't know if Deng + one of the two (Gibson/Asik) is enough. Asik certainly isn't because it leaves too many minutes available at PF. Gibson? ... not sure. Might be doable. Would certainly upgrade LA's athleticism, defense and rebounding (Deng over Artest). Deng as a third scorer behind Bynum and Kobe. Yeah, I could be talked into that. Maybe if they threw in a smaller asset as well. Offered to take Steve Blake and gave back CJ Watson to further strengthen their PG rotation.

Pau Gasol + Steve Blake for Luol Deng, Taj Gibson and CJ Watson.

Oh and Chicago could trade Asik for a SF then. They'd have Pau, Noah and Boozer. Not much need for Asik. Maybe bring in someone like Trevor Ariza or Wilson Chandler or a Tayshaun Prince.

The problem with this trade for Chicago is that Rose may not be healthy to play or at least full strength until the 2013-14 season.   I think next year could be a wash year for the Bulls with Rose's injury.  So basically this trade would be for 2 seasons from now when Gasol would be 34 and Boozer 2 years older.  I think I'd rather keep Deng, Gibson, and Asik if I were the Bulls.  A younger mix for the long term.  If anything I'd think about trading Boozer now for younger pieces. 

[Bombastic Jones]

Gasol, Bynum, MWP for Dwight, Hedo, BigBaby.

Then try to add Nash at PG.

[thestackshow]

Gasol for Big Baby and Jameer Nelson.

Gasol is washed up, Baby has a much better career ahead of him then Gasol.

Bynum is still big enough to protect the rim, and they get a veteran point guard and a tough big man with heart in glen davis.

[Lucky17]

Gasol for Big Baby and Jameer Nelson.

Gasol is washed up, Baby has a much better career ahead of him then Gasol.

Bynum is still big enough to protect the rim, and they get a veteran point guard and a tough big man with heart in glen davis.

I don't think that's much of a return for Gasol.

Of the three, Nelson seems to me the most "washed up." He is a shoot-first PG whose shooting percentages have steadily declined over the last several years. He's now also reached the age of 30, and has never been very durable.

He's also looking to opt out of the final year of his contract to secure a long-term deal (i.e., his last contract), the final years of which will likely make him quite overpaid for his production.

[RebusRankin]

Gasol for Bass, Daniels, O'Neal, Hollins and 200 tps from every CelticsBlog poster.

[celtsfan84]

Gasol for Big Baby and Jameer Nelson.

Gasol is washed up, Baby has a much better career ahead of him then Gasol.

Bynum is still big enough to protect the rim, and they get a veteran point guard and a tough big man with heart in glen davis.

Wow. Just wow. That might be the worst trade I've ever seen posted on this forum and I've seen some bad ones.

Trade a skilled 7 footer who averaged 17-10 shooting 50% this season for a big man that shoots 42%, is several inches shorter, and gets half as many rebounds and a point guard who has lost his speed and also shoots 42%.

I guess the mediocre at best Glen Davis is still seen through green colored glasses?

[Lucky17]

Gasol for Bass, Daniels, O'Neal, Hollins and 200 tps from every CelticsBlog poster.

Would we have to give them to Mitch Kupchak? I'm not sure I'd be comfortable doing that. I find him a little creepy. Are we sure he's human? I think he could possibly be a robot.

[jdz101]

Chicago?  Deng and Asik?  I don't know.

Kinda really love this idea, though LA would probably want a 3rd team involved to get a PF out of the deal (Taj Gibson is probably too much to include, and I believe is an RFA)

Gasol and Artest for Boozer and Deng. The money adds up almost perfectly.

Yeah, I was thinking about that one too. I decided against it because of Boozer's slow footed defense. I think they need a big man with quick feet who can cover ground defensively. I don't think Boozer adds enough at this juncture of his career + specifically on that Lakers team, to be an enticing player for LA.

Personally, I don't think there is that much between Boozer (offensively orientated role player) and Taj Gibson (defender/rebounder) talent wise already ... when you add in fit for that Lakers team, I think Gibson is the superior option (athleticism, defense) + when you add in salaries (say $6mil vs what $14-15mil) and cap management (Lakers luxury tax issues), he is a much superior option for LA.

If LA could manage to get all three guys - Deng, Taj and Asik - that would be a very attractive proposal for them. It would leave Chicago with a nice three player big man rotation with Pau Gasol, Joakim Noah and Carlos Boozer too. Ronnie Brewer taking over SF duties. Hefty price to pay (for Chicag) but it may be worth it (to have that big man rotation).

I don't know if Deng + one of the two (Gibson/Asik) is enough. Asik certainly isn't because it leaves too many minutes available at PF. Gibson? ... not sure. Might be doable. Would certainly upgrade LA's athleticism, defense and rebounding (Deng over Artest). Deng as a third scorer behind Bynum and Kobe. Yeah, I could be talked into that. Maybe if they threw in a smaller asset as well. Offered to take Steve Blake and gave back CJ Watson to further strengthen their PG rotation.

Pau Gasol + Steve Blake for Luol Deng, Taj Gibson and CJ Watson.

Oh and Chicago could trade Asik for a SF then. They'd have Pau, Noah and Boozer. Not much need for Asik. Maybe bring in someone like Trevor Ariza or Wilson Chandler or a Tayshaun Prince.

The problem with this trade for Chicago is that Rose may not be healthy to play or at least full strength until the 2013-14 season.   I think next year could be a wash year for the Bulls with Rose's injury.  So basically this trade would be for 2 seasons from now when Gasol would be 34 and Boozer 2 years older.  I think I'd rather keep Deng, Gibson, and Asik if I were the Bulls.  A younger mix for the long term.  If anything I'd think about trading Boozer now for younger pieces. 

The lakers will want a smaller, creative player for gasol, so they can then unclog the paint for Bynum. Throwing asik or gibson in the mix just makes them too top heavy again.

[snively]

I wonder if Houston's willing to put Lowry on the table should they resign Dragic.

Lowry/Scola for Gasol would be interesting.

[thestackshow]

Gasol for Big Baby and Jameer Nelson.

Gasol is washed up, Baby has a much better career ahead of him then Gasol.

Bynum is still big enough to protect the rim, and they get a veteran point guard and a tough big man with heart in glen davis.

Wow. Just wow. That might be the worst trade I've ever seen posted on this forum and I've seen some bad ones.

Trade a skilled 7 footer who averaged 17-10 shooting 50% this season for a big man that shoots 42%, is several inches shorter, and gets half as many rebounds and a point guard who has lost his speed and also shoots 42%.

I guess the mediocre at best Glen Davis is still seen through green colored glasses?

Gasol is way past his prime, he only has one or two years left at most of playing at a medium to high level. After that hes done. Hes already fallen off a cliff in terms of ability.

I wouldnt trade any young assets for him to be honest. He isnt worth much anymore, this post season also killed his trade value, the offers LA was getting last year for him wont be offered again. Hes basically worth role-players and picks.

LA wont get a star or fringe star player for him. Hes done.

[OsirusCeltics]

I hope Pau Gasol's trade value is so low that the Celtics can get him for below average players

[celtsfan84]

Gasol for Big Baby and Jameer Nelson.

Gasol is washed up, Baby has a much better career ahead of him then Gasol.

Bynum is still big enough to protect the rim, and they get a veteran point guard and a tough big man with heart in glen davis.

Wow. Just wow. That might be the worst trade I've ever seen posted on this forum and I've seen some bad ones.

Trade a skilled 7 footer who averaged 17-10 shooting 50% this season for a big man that shoots 42%, is several inches shorter, and gets half as many rebounds and a point guard who has lost his speed and also shoots 42%.

I guess the mediocre at best Glen Davis is still seen through green colored glasses?

Gasol is way past his prime, he only has one or two years left at most of playing at a medium to high level. After that hes done. Hes already fallen off a cliff in terms of ability.

I wouldnt trade any young assets for him to be honest. He isnt worth much anymore, this post season also killed his trade value, the offers LA was getting last year for him wont be offered again. Hes basically worth role-players and picks.

LA wont get a star or fringe star player for him. Hes done.

He's already fallen off a cliff?  He averaged 17-10 this year with a great shooting percentage.  How has he fallen off a cliff?

Even if he is done, Jameer Nelson is in an even more noticeable decline and Glen Davis is a backup big at best.  You can't be a serious contender with a big man who shoots 42%.

Both guys you listed have negative trade value.  I'll take a declining, washed up, and off a cliff 17-10 over that garbage any day.

Orlando couldn't salary dump Jameer Nelson and Glen Davis if they tried.

Out of curiosity, what skill of his has fallen off a cliff?

[thestackshow]

Gasol for Big Baby and Jameer Nelson.

Gasol is washed up, Baby has a much better career ahead of him then Gasol.

Bynum is still big enough to protect the rim, and they get a veteran point guard and a tough big man with heart in glen davis.

Wow. Just wow. That might be the worst trade I've ever seen posted on this forum and I've seen some bad ones.

Trade a skilled 7 footer who averaged 17-10 shooting 50% this season for a big man that shoots 42%, is several inches shorter, and gets half as many rebounds and a point guard who has lost his speed and also shoots 42%.

I guess the mediocre at best Glen Davis is still seen through green colored glasses?

Gasol is way past his prime, he only has one or two years left at most of playing at a medium to high level. After that hes done. Hes already fallen off a cliff in terms of ability.

I wouldnt trade any young assets for him to be honest. He isnt worth much anymore, this post season also killed his trade value, the offers LA was getting last year for him wont be offered again. Hes basically worth role-players and picks.

LA wont get a star or fringe star player for him. Hes done.

He's already fallen off a cliff?  He averaged 17-10 this year with a great shooting percentage.  How has he fallen off a cliff?

Even if he is done, Jameer Nelson is in an even more noticeable decline and Glen Davis is a backup big at best.  You can't be a serious contender with a big man who shoots 42%.

Both guys you listed have negative trade value.  I'll take a declining, washed up, and off a cliff 17-10 over that garbage any day.

Orlando couldn't salary dump Jameer Nelson and Glen Davis if they tried.

Out of curiosity, what skill of his has fallen off a cliff?

Everything.

Hes a on the decline big man with no heart.

[celtsfan84]

Gasol for Big Baby and Jameer Nelson.

Gasol is washed up, Baby has a much better career ahead of him then Gasol.

Bynum is still big enough to protect the rim, and they get a veteran point guard and a tough big man with heart in glen davis.

Wow. Just wow. That might be the worst trade I've ever seen posted on this forum and I've seen some bad ones.

Trade a skilled 7 footer who averaged 17-10 shooting 50% this season for a big man that shoots 42%, is several inches shorter, and gets half as many rebounds and a point guard who has lost his speed and also shoots 42%.

I guess the mediocre at best Glen Davis is still seen through green colored glasses?

Gasol is way past his prime, he only has one or two years left at most of playing at a medium to high level. After that hes done. Hes already fallen off a cliff in terms of ability.

I wouldnt trade any young assets for him to be honest. He isnt worth much anymore, this post season also killed his trade value, the offers LA was getting last year for him wont be offered again. Hes basically worth role-players and picks.

LA wont get a star or fringe star player for him. Hes done.

He's already fallen off a cliff?  He averaged 17-10 this year with a great shooting percentage.  How has he fallen off a cliff?

Even if he is done, Jameer Nelson is in an even more noticeable decline and Glen Davis is a backup big at best.  You can't be a serious contender with a big man who shoots 42%.

Both guys you listed have negative trade value.  I'll take a declining, washed up, and off a cliff 17-10 over that garbage any day.

Orlando couldn't salary dump Jameer Nelson and Glen Davis if they tried.

Out of curiosity, what skill of his has fallen off a cliff?

Everything.

Hes a on the decline big man with no heart.

Wow. Someone else please help me out.  Am I being trolled here or is this serious?

[thestackshow]

Gasol for Big Baby and Jameer Nelson.

Gasol is washed up, Baby has a much better career ahead of him then Gasol.

Bynum is still big enough to protect the rim, and they get a veteran point guard and a tough big man with heart in glen davis.

Wow. Just wow. That might be the worst trade I've ever seen posted on this forum and I've seen some bad ones.

Trade a skilled 7 footer who averaged 17-10 shooting 50% this season for a big man that shoots 42%, is several inches shorter, and gets half as many rebounds and a point guard who has lost his speed and also shoots 42%.

I guess the mediocre at best Glen Davis is still seen through green colored glasses?

Gasol is way past his prime, he only has one or two years left at most of playing at a medium to high level. After that hes done. Hes already fallen off a cliff in terms of ability.

I wouldnt trade any young assets for him to be honest. He isnt worth much anymore, this post season also killed his trade value, the offers LA was getting last year for him wont be offered again. Hes basically worth role-players and picks.

LA wont get a star or fringe star player for him. Hes done.

He's already fallen off a cliff?  He averaged 17-10 this year with a great shooting percentage.  How has he fallen off a cliff?

Even if he is done, Jameer Nelson is in an even more noticeable decline and Glen Davis is a backup big at best.  You can't be a serious contender with a big man who shoots 42%.

Both guys you listed have negative trade value.  I'll take a declining, washed up, and off a cliff 17-10 over that garbage any day.

Orlando couldn't salary dump Jameer Nelson and Glen Davis if they tried.

Out of curiosity, what skill of his has fallen off a cliff?

Everything.

Hes a on the decline big man with no heart.

Wow. Someone else please help me out.  Am I being trolled here or is this serious?

Did you not watch the playoffs for the past 2 years in a row?

Pau Gasoft has no heart and hasnt had heart for the past 2 years. Playoffs dont lie. I wouldnt trade any star player for him.