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Re: Celtics pre-draft workouts
« Reply #75 on: June 01, 2012, 12:31:45 PM »

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I also imagine we'd have to take back a contract to make the trade work financially. Probably Biedrins. I think that makes it a non-starter for Boston. Giving up Pierce + cap flexibility to get a #7 pick (Harrison Barnes mentioned here) is too big a price. I think that is the type of move you make in a larger rebuilding movement and I don't believe Danny wants to go in that direction at this point. I think Danny wants to find a quicker transition via that cap space (free agency or trade). He'll only go for that larger rebuilding process as a secondary option if his first preference fails (which hasn't happened yet).

Biedrins and his contract wouldn't be great but not a deal stopper for me. He would be on the books with the Cs for 2 years at 9 mill. After the first year his contract could actually be helpful in facilitating future deals.

Then there is also the fact that he is only 26 and should be in his prime. Instead his prime but instead his best 3 years where from 21-23 when he was a double double center. Maybe the change could bring him back to a shell of that.
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Re: Celtics pre-draft workouts
« Reply #76 on: June 01, 2012, 02:26:59 PM »

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Re: Celtics pre-draft workouts
« Reply #77 on: June 01, 2012, 03:04:48 PM »

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In order to move up for Barnes my guess would be a team like Portland, Sac, or GS would want Pierce. All three teams have pieces in place to make the playoffs next season they just need leadership/scoring at the 3.

example would be
Paul + 21+22 to GS for #7 and #30

GS becomes a legit playoff team with Curry,Thompson,Pierce,Lee and Bogut and paul goes home to California

I personally would have a hard time with this trade but can see why it would happen.


That's a really interesting idea. Pierce, Bogut, Steph Curry and David Lee with the up and coming Klay Thompson rounding out the core of that team. Title contender.

I think Boston would be overpaying to give up both Pierce and the two draft picks though. I think it'd be Pierce straight up for the #7 and that later pick. So Boston would have three first rounders. Maybe try to package them for another late lottery pick or put all three together and move up further (#2 or #3) if there was someone Danny was very high on.

I also imagine we'd have to take back a contract to make the trade work financially. Probably Biedrins. I think that makes it a non-starter for Boston. Giving up Pierce + cap flexibility to get a #7 pick (Harrison Barnes mentioned here) is too big a price. I think that is the type of move you make in a larger rebuilding movement and I don't believe Danny wants to go in that direction at this point. I think Danny wants to find a quicker transition via that cap space (free agency or trade). He'll only go for that larger rebuilding process as a secondary option if his first preference fails (which hasn't happened yet).

I was thinking it would be Jefferson, Wright and #7 for Pierce and one of the first rounders (or maybe no pick given how stingy Ainge can be).  Similar to the Wally, Delonte and #5 for Ray and #35 deal.  Two year bad contract, young role player and lottery pick for aging all-star and a later pick.

And when you think about it, that's not a huge blow to the cap space.  Waiving Pierce in 13/14 would still cost us $5 mil (unless we used the amnesty on the full $15 mil, which I'm not sure the ownership would be crazy about).  With Jefferson that's a difference of $6 mil.  With Biedrins, $4 mil.  And you have the added benefit of a hopefully valuable contributor locked in on the rookie scale.
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Re: Celtics pre-draft workouts
« Reply #78 on: June 01, 2012, 04:26:36 PM »

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started a workout out list in another post ill try to keep it up dated daily
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Re: Celtics pre-draft workouts
« Reply #79 on: June 01, 2012, 04:36:29 PM »

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from Alex Kennedy's Q+A session

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Could you see the Celtics trading Paul Pierce and there two picks to a team like Golden state for an early first in order to jump head first into there rebuild?

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    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Paul Pierce traded for a lottery pick, especially if Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett indicate that they’re going to leave as free agents. At the trade deadline, the Celtics almost dealt Pierce to the Nets in exchange for their first-round pick (top-three protected). The Nets decided to trade for Gerald Wallace instead, but the fact that Boston was ready to pull the trigger shows what they’re looking to do. If the Celtics are ready to rebuild, it definitely seems like they’ll try to get their hands on a lottery pick or two.
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Re: Celtics pre-draft workouts
« Reply #80 on: June 02, 2012, 10:34:53 AM »

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By the time June 28 rolls around I expect Danny to have worked out or been in on the workout of at least 55 of the 60 players who are eventually drafted.

Re: Celtics pre-draft workouts
« Reply #81 on: June 04, 2012, 02:00:08 AM »

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I definitely can see Ainge going in for a full and complete rebuild if he sees an opportunity to restock the talent pool with dynamic young players in a hurry.

This is an Ainge type of draft and he's basically sitting in the middle of it with two picks back to back. Not a bad place to be.

Pierce to GSW and perhaps uniting there with KG? It sounds like torture thinking of that but its the type of ballsy move that could change the Celtics fortunes in a huge way for years.

I'm personally liking Rivers/Ross/Barnes on the wings and Zeller would be a nice piece to have as well. If the Celtics stand pat I am intrigued by Wroten and Harkless but think they're going to take some time to develop. Draymond Green is a guy I just really have a good feeling about.

He kind of reminds me of a hybrid between Pierce and Z-Bo.