NJ Draft Combine

[CFAN38]

This weekend there will be a draft combine put on by the nets. The follow link lists the participants. 

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/15/nets-hosting-draft-combine/


Players of interest at the Combine

Saturday

session #1
Kim English     SG
Scott Machado   PG
Tu Holloway     PG
Terrell Stoglin PG

session #2
Kevin Murphy   SG
Renardo Sidney C
Mitchell Watt  PF

Sunday

session #3
Jae Crowder    SF
Evan Fournier  SG
Kris Joseph    SF

Session #4
J'Covan Brown  PG
Dee Bost       PG
Orlando Johnson SF
Tony Mitchell  SF
Kyle O'Quin    PF/C
Robert Sacre   C
Alex Young     SF

All of the players i've listed will be likely 2nd round picks, with a few guys having the potential to break into the first round.

Session 1 will be a good test for Machado working out against 2 big time scoring guards.

Session 2 is a shame that Sidney and Wyatt arnt with o'quin and sacre and that English isn't with any of the other high end wing prospects.

Session 3 will be a good test to see how Crowder does staying in front of Fournier and Joseph.

Session 4 I expect one of the 3 SFs listed (johnson, young , mithcell ) to jump up in the rankings come draft day and become potential early second/late firsts.

Also from 4 it will be interesting to see if Sacre and O'Quin can show enough potential as defenders to move up on draft boards. 

[csfansince60s]

TP for the post and info.

Got real excited when I saw Tony Mitchell's name, but then realized it must be the 'Bama Tony Mitchell who is bad news, great athlete but nowhere near the basketball player that the NTexas St Tony Mitchell is.

[clover]

O'Quinn is interesting, but probably falls between the C's current picks.

Sidney and Kupsas could be interesting for the C's 2nd round pick.

Yes, I'm certain there's big man value in this draft for the C's to bag at some level.

[CFAN38]

I had never heard of Kupsas until you pointed him out. Watching his highlights he appears to have good size and decent hands but when a 7's highlight real has more layups in it then dunks it becomes a point of concern.

He appears at first glance to be a guy someone might take a shot at late in the first and then just leave him in Europe for a few years and see if he develops.

its a shame he isn't in Renoldo Sidney's group.

[CFAN38]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/two_out_of_nets_workout_dBfsFOAF9RjNB57GhmqxHO?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=More%20Sports

Evan Fournier and Kris Joseph have both pulled out of the NJ combine.

[33-00-32]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/two_out_of_nets_workout_dBfsFOAF9RjNB57GhmqxHO?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=More%20Sports

Evan Fournier and Kris Joseph have both pulled out of the NJ combine.

That could make it very difficult for Crowder to cover them...kidding  , thanks for the update.

[CFAN38]

nothing official but draftexpress is reporting that Crowder only measured 6'3.75" with a 6'8" wingspan and 242lbs at the combine. This absolutely kills his stock in my mind. I can live with the height. 6'5 in shoes is not idea but not terrible for a small forward but to be shorter then average with an below average wingspan really limits him as a 3/4 and I dont believe he has the athleticism to play 2/3. Still would like him on the Cs but as a late late 2nd or a FA.

Maybe the patriots need to take a look at him as a TE?

[clover]

nothing official but draftexpress is reporting that Crowder only measured 6'3.75" with a 6'8" wingspan and 242lbs at the combine. This absolutely kills his stock in my mind. I can live with the height. 6'5 in shoes is not idea but not terrible for a small forward but to be shorter then average with an below average wingspan really limits him as a 3/4 and I dont believe he has the athleticism to play 2/3. Still would like him on the Cs but as a late late 2nd or a FA.

Maybe the patriots need to take a look at him as a TE?

I'm not big on Crowder, but I'm not sure about the Nets combine measuring either:

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
Orlando Johnson's NJ measurements from last year are much different than this year. Now an inch shorter & 2 1/2 smaller standing reach.

[Chris]

nothing official but draftexpress is reporting that Crowder only measured 6'3.75" with a 6'8" wingspan and 242lbs at the combine. This absolutely kills his stock in my mind. I can live with the height. 6'5 in shoes is not idea but not terrible for a small forward but to be shorter then average with an below average wingspan really limits him as a 3/4 and I dont believe he has the athleticism to play 2/3. Still would like him on the Cs but as a late late 2nd or a FA.

Maybe the patriots need to take a look at him as a TE?

I'm not big on Crowder, but I'm not sure about the Nets combine measuring either:

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
Orlando Johnson's NJ measurements from last year are much different than this year. Now an inch shorter & 2 1/2 smaller standing reach.

Yeah, I don't completely trust any measurements that are not from a league-wide combine.  If it is run by an individual team, they have every motivation in the world to fudge the results and leak them.

With that said, that seems about right for Crowder.  He looked short, and not particularly long when I saw him.  But, what this could do is help him slide into the second round, where I think he could be much more interesting. 

[CFAN38]

measurements..

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Nets-Combine-MeasurementsAthletic-Testing-and-Recap-3921/

Sacre looks good, not great length but good physical #s and can play defence

[Galeto]

Orlando Johnson measured an inch taller and three inches longer in the standing reach at the NJ combine last year. It doesn't seem like it should be hard to accurately measure height or length but they seem to fluctuate wildly from setting to setting.  Apparently the time of the day they take the measurements can have an affect but I don't know.

Regardless, the height and reach aren't surprising for Crowder, even if it's possible he'll measure a little taller and longer at the NBA combine.  I thought he looked about 6'5ish in shoes myself watching on TV and my computer.  It makes his statements about wanting to drop weight to become a guard more understandable because he's short even for a small forward.

After watching him more, I think he'd have enough lateral agility to guard the perimeter.  He's not vertically explosive but he hovers along the ground well.  He's a hard prospect to finger: a 4/5 in college with the size of a guard but without the ballhandling or perimeter experience of one.  At his size and positional uncertainty, I doubt he goes in the first.  I wouldn't mind him in the second.

[goCeltics]

tony mitchell reminds of tony allen, think mitchell is a tad slower but taller, like allen he is a headcase, even more so

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Ive seen the draftexpress article and it has Josh Owens in it.

Love to have him for the C's. He's undersized but he's pure hustle. Not sure if he can play at an NBA level though. Hopefully he impresses more.