LarBrd33's "11 Game Rule"

[LarBrd33]

I won a fantasy league one year on the strength of Terrence Kinsey for that last month of the season. Unreal.

Looks like Tinsey made it to 13 games.  New rule stipulation... the random "breakout" can't happen during the last two weeks of the regular season (tank time) when teams are either resting their stars for the playoffs or attempting to improve their lotto odds.  lol

[clover]

I have "Hunch Rule"

My hunch tells me this

Avery Bradley-Future Allstar
Jeremy Lin-SuperStar Player
Brandon Jennings-Star Player

I'm going to guess that 'SuperStar Player' is at the top of your hierarchy, but which is second best 'Future Allstar' or 'Star Player'?

[LarBrd33]

I have "Hunch Rule"

My hunch tells me this

Avery Bradley-Future Allstar
Jeremy Lin-SuperStar Player
Brandon Jennings-Star Player

I'm going to guess that 'SuperStar Player' is at the top of your hierarchy, but which is second best 'Future Allstar' or 'Star Player'?

Of those three I'd say Jennings has by far the best shot of being a star player.  He's only 22 and already pretty darn good.  Three years ago I knew he wasn't going to keep it up (his 11 game streak at age 19), but at this point he's developed into a solid young point guard.  I'm not sold on Lin at all.  Bradley hasn't shown much at this point yet, but he looks like his ceiling might be poor man's Jason Terry with more aggressive defense and far less offense.  There's only so much you can really get out of a 6'2 180 pound shooting guard.

[LarBrd33]

Bumping over a year later:  It's way early, but I'm officially making Michael Carter-Williams eligible for my nonsensical "11 Game Rule".   If he continues this level of play... it will last no more than 11 games.  He was a garbage shooter in College.  There's no way he keeps putting up these kind of stats. 

[indeedproceed]

It's way early, but I'm officially making Michael Carter-Williams eligible for my nonsensical "11 Game Rule".   If he continues this level of play... it will last no more than 11 games.  He was a garbage shooter in College.  There's no way he keeps putting up these kind of stats.

I agree, too much working against him. NBA teams will start to gameplan, and he'll get tired. The schedule for a college kid being asked to do as much as he is...its tough. But he has pretty much shown he belongs here beyond a reasonable doubt, which is a lot considering his summer league.

[SHAQATTACK]

It's way early, but I'm officially making Michael Carter-Williams eligible for my nonsensical "11 Game Rule".   If he continues this level of play... it will last no more than 11 games.  He was a garbage shooter in College.  There's no way he keeps putting up these kind of stats.

I call it the  Lin sanity syndrome ........a person is great  for few games,   They study you,  figure out the persons weakness,  start better players against him and coach to stop the new kid in town.

Only a select few players maintain this sort of level...MJ,  Kobe, LeBron , Bird, Dirk .......year after year

[LarBrd33]

It's way early, but I'm officially making Michael Carter-Williams eligible for my nonsensical "11 Game Rule".   If he continues this level of play... it will last no more than 11 games.  He was a garbage shooter in College.  There's no way he keeps putting up these kind of stats.

I agree, too much working against him. NBA teams will start to gameplan, and he'll get tired. The schedule for a college kid being asked to do as much as he is...its tough. But he has pretty much shown he belongs here beyond a reasonable doubt, which is a lot considering his summer league.

Yeah I mean to be fair, he was a lotto pick this year.  He's not a complete "unknown".  He's probably not eligible.  It has to be some random player who just starts dominating out of nowhere.  Kinda like Avery Bradley's 11 game shooting stretch a couple years ago.  It would have to be something like Phil Pressey suddenly dropping 20 and 10 mid-season.  Nobody would see that coming.  It's reasonable to expect a lotto pick like MCW to play well.  Still... I'll be keeping an eye on him to see if this crazy Philly streak dies after 11 games.

Vitor might be eligible if he continues to average double digit rebounds and 5 blocks a night.  I don't think the league really has Vitor on their radar right now.

[nickagneta]

MCW is the real deal. People just aren't paying attention to what he did last year at Syracuse. He is an elite defender. He has excellent passing ability, an elite ability to run an offense and elite ability to drive the lane. His shooting is suspect but working as of now. He is very "Rondo-like" only bigger and longer. In this draft class, he is probably ROY.

[LarBrd33]

MCW is the real deal. People just aren't paying attention to what he did last year at Syracuse. He is an elite defender. He has excellent passing ability, an elite ability to run an offense and elite ability to drive the lane. His shooting is suspect but working as of now. He is very "Rondo-like" only bigger and longer. In this draft class, he is probably ROY.

He shot 39% and 30% from three in College.  He shot 32% in and 27% from three in the Pre-season.

He's shooting 47% and 47% from three in the first 3 games of this season.   I give it 11 games.  Start the clock!  Lol

[nickagneta]

MCW is the real deal. People just aren't paying attention to what he did last year at Syracuse. He is an elite defender. He has excellent passing ability, an elite ability to run an offense and elite ability to drive the lane. His shooting is suspect but working as of now. He is very "Rondo-like" only bigger and longer. In this draft class, he is probably ROY.

He shot 39% and 30% from three in College.  He shot 32% in and 27% from three in the Pre-season.

He's shooting 47% and 47% from three in the first 3 games of this season.   I give it 11 games.  Start the clock!  Lol

Doesn't change the fact he will be dishing out assists like crazy, racking up steals like crazy, running the Philly offense excellently making his team mates better and shutting down opposing PGs while maybe leading all PGs in rebounding. And...he will still score.

Want to enter MCW's shooting into your theory, great I agree. His total game, no way.

[LarBrd33]

MCW is the real deal. People just aren't paying attention to what he did last year at Syracuse. He is an elite defender. He has excellent passing ability, an elite ability to run an offense and elite ability to drive the lane. His shooting is suspect but working as of now. He is very "Rondo-like" only bigger and longer. In this draft class, he is probably ROY.

He shot 39% and 30% from three in College.  He shot 32% in and 27% from three in the Pre-season.

He's shooting 47% and 47% from three in the first 3 games of this season.   I give it 11 games.  Start the clock!  Lol

Doesn't change the fact he will be dishing out assists like crazy, racking up steals like crazy, running the Philly offense excellently making his team mates better and shutting down opposing PGs while maybe leading all PGs in rebounding. And...he will still score.

Want to enter MCW's shooting into your theory, great I agree. His total game, no way.

Fair enough.  Curious... in 3 years who do you think will be best... 26 year old Rubio, 25 year old MCW, or 31 year old Rondo?

[indeedproceed]

MCW is the real deal. People just aren't paying attention to what he did last year at Syracuse. He is an elite defender. He has excellent passing ability, an elite ability to run an offense and elite ability to drive the lane. His shooting is suspect but working as of now. He is very "Rondo-like" only bigger and longer. In this draft class, he is probably ROY.

He shot 39% and 30% from three in College.  He shot 32% in and 27% from three in the Pre-season.

He's shooting 47% and 47% from three in the first 3 games of this season.   I give it 11 games.  Start the clock!  Lol

I paid attention to what he did at Syracuse last year, and he had games where he looked really, really good offensively, but he had a lot of stinkers too. The entire regular season he didn't string together 3 consecutive games of 45% or better, and it wasn't until the tournament that he managed to do so.

His summer league had me down on him pretty hard, and his preseason while improved wasnt exactly a hint that he'd have a string of games like this.

Not that he doesn't have the potential to be a very good player..just he's not gonna be the guy he is right now statistically in 10 games. Hell in 3 games.

[fairweatherfan]

MCW is the real deal. People just aren't paying attention to what he did last year at Syracuse. He is an elite defender. He has excellent passing ability, an elite ability to run an offense and elite ability to drive the lane. His shooting is suspect but working as of now. He is very "Rondo-like" only bigger and longer. In this draft class, he is probably ROY.

He shot 39% and 30% from three in College.  He shot 32% in and 27% from three in the Pre-season.

He's shooting 47% and 47% from three in the first 3 games of this season.   I give it 11 games.  Start the clock!  Lol

I paid attention to what he did at Syracuse last year, and he had games where he looked really, really good offensively, but he had a lot of stinkers too. The entire regular season he didn't string together 3 consecutive games of 45% or better, and it wasn't until the tournament that he managed to do so.

The big mistake people made in evaluating MCW was thinking he had an awful jumper, like Rondo when he entered the league.  He has a STREAKY jumper, which is a very different animal.  And the more wide-open NBA game suits him better than D I. 

But the averages will catch up to him eventually.  I think Brandon Jennings' streak his rookie year is a good comparison, though MCW has a chance to have his "normal" level be considerably higher than Jennings. 

[nickagneta]

MCW is the real deal. People just aren't paying attention to what he did last year at Syracuse. He is an elite defender. He has excellent passing ability, an elite ability to run an offense and elite ability to drive the lane. His shooting is suspect but working as of now. He is very "Rondo-like" only bigger and longer. In this draft class, he is probably ROY.

He shot 39% and 30% from three in College.  He shot 32% in and 27% from three in the Pre-season.

He's shooting 47% and 47% from three in the first 3 games of this season.   I give it 11 games.  Start the clock!  Lol

I paid attention to what he did at Syracuse last year, and he had games where he looked really, really good offensively, but he had a lot of stinkers too. The entire regular season he didn't string together 3 consecutive games of 45% or better, and it wasn't until the tournament that he managed to do so.

His summer league had me down on him pretty hard, and his preseason while improved wasnt exactly a hint that he'd have a string of games like this.

Not that he doesn't have the potential to be a very good player..just he's not gonna be the guy he is right now statistically in 10 games. Hell in 3 games.

You really weren't paying attention then because his entire offensive game isn't shooting.

Jimmer Freddette was a great college PG that could shoot lights out but the rest of his game wasn't very good. His game has not translated well to the NBA. MCW was a great college PG but was a streaky shooter and his shot wasn't great. But the rest of his game is excellent. His game translates well to the NBA.

Given your professed love of Oladipo, an extremely similar player to MCW only without the ball handling ability and with lesser passing skills, I am surprised to see you so down on MCW.

[indeedproceed]

MCW is the real deal. People just aren't paying attention to what he did last year at Syracuse. He is an elite defender. He has excellent passing ability, an elite ability to run an offense and elite ability to drive the lane. His shooting is suspect but working as of now. He is very "Rondo-like" only bigger and longer. In this draft class, he is probably ROY.

He shot 39% and 30% from three in College.  He shot 32% in and 27% from three in the Pre-season.

He's shooting 47% and 47% from three in the first 3 games of this season.   I give it 11 games.  Start the clock!  Lol

I paid attention to what he did at Syracuse last year, and he had games where he looked really, really good offensively, but he had a lot of stinkers too. The entire regular season he didn't string together 3 consecutive games of 45% or better, and it wasn't until the tournament that he managed to do so.

His summer league had me down on him pretty hard, and his preseason while improved wasnt exactly a hint that he'd have a string of games like this.

Not that he doesn't have the potential to be a very good player..just he's not gonna be the guy he is right now statistically in 10 games. Hell in 3 games.

You really weren't paying attention then because his entire offensive game isn't shooting.

Jimmer Freddette was a great college PG that could shoot lights out but the rest of his game wasn't very good. His game has not translated well to the NBA. MCW was a great college PG but was a streaky shooter and his shot wasn't great. But the rest of his game is excellent. His game translates well to the NBA.

Given your professed love of Oladipo, an extremely similar player to MCW only without the ball handling ability and with lesser passing skills, I am surprised to see you so down on MCW.

I'm not even sure where you're disagreeing with me. I said statistically he can't keep this up, and that it doesn't preclude him from being a very good player.

And how is Oladipo relevant? Did he shoot over 45% the last 3 games and completely demolish expectations for him walking into the year?