Drafting for go-to scoring potential

[Kenhov]

I have gone on record here and elsewhere to state that if the Celts dont take Royce White, they will regret the move.

Royce is quite frankly the best offensive player in the draft, ready to go. Most importantly he is the best into the lane player in the draft.

He will learn how to shoot the mid range and then he will be circa Paul Pierce unstoppable when on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sps0J1jgses

[nickagneta]

I really don't see any of the players outside the top 6-8 players having #1 scoring capabilities.

I think Davis, Barnes, Beal, Kidd-Gilchrist and maybe Lamb all have #1 scorer potential. But I don't see the players below that having anything but #2 scorer potential on a good team. Oh they might throw up great numbers on a bad team, but put with other good players on a good team and don't think any have the potential to be the go to guy on that type of squad.

[hwangjini_1]

royce white and the video...he is an interesting player. but even on the video of highlights he only makes two shots farther than 4 feet from the basket.

combine that with his 49.8% FREE THROW shooting, and obviously there are more questions than just his personality.

i suppose if ainge drafts him then he might be able to over come all his problems, but right now i am doubtful. if he cant shoot, and i see no strong indication that he can shoot, then he wont have much value in the nba.

[mqtcelticsfan]

I think Davis, Barnes, Beal, Kidd-Gilchrist and maybe Lamb all have #1 scorer potential. But I don't see the players below that having anything but #2 scorer potential on a good team. Oh they might throw up great numbers on a bad team, but put with other good players on a good team and don't think any have the potential to be the go to guy on that type of squad.

Agreed, although that's not necessarily a slam on any of those guys. There are only a small handful of true number one options in the league. I wouldn't be surprised if none of the players from this draft ever became a true go-to scorer for a contender.

[ThaPreacher]

royce white and the video...he is an interesting player. but even on the video of highlights he only makes two shots farther than 4 feet from the basket.

combine that with his 49.8% FREE THROW shooting, and obviously there are more questions than just his personality.

i suppose if ainge drafts him then he might be able to over come all his problems, but right now i am doubtful. if he cant shoot, and i see no strong indication that he can shoot, then he wont have much value in the nba.

I watched the video.  Video's are sometimes decieving. At first he seemed musclebound and methodical.  It looked as though he had questionable athleticism.  And then I watched his footwork.  Quite exceptional.  I wondered if he could raise up and dunk.  It seemed like he was a man among boys.  One handed power moves. 
I don't know if he will be around.  I think the only way he drops to the 20's is if the questions about his willingness to fly and the other issues that surround him make him seem to much of a risk.  Celtics should grab him with one of their picks.

[Celts Fan 92]

I have gone on record here and elsewhere to state that if the Celts dont take Royce White, they will regret the move.

Royce is quite frankly the best offensive player in the draft, ready to go. Most importantly he is the best into the lane player in the draft.

He will learn how to shoot the mid range and then he will be circa Paul Pierce unstoppable when on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sps0J1jgses

how is the bolded the case when nobody heard of dude til last years NCAA Tourney? aint dude a junior anyway? idk dat would be a reach

[arambone]

Marshon Brooks was drafted 25 and is now projected by everybody to be a future go-to scoring option.
Jeremy Lin was undrafted. Gilbert Arenas was a second rounder, as was Michael Redd.

Isaiah Thomas was the last pick in an average draft last year, and even he looks somewhat promising.

In a draft this deep, I think we'll look back in one year and five years and see that there were go-to scorers at all levels of this draft, and beyond the draft even.


I'd like to upgrade Tony Wroten in my above list from possible #2 scorer to possible #1 scorer. This guy is a decent jump shot away from being a dynamo. Right now he projects as a Tyreke Evans type, and he's already a go-to scorer, even if he doesn't make others better. He's also usually surrounded by pretty shtty players.

Would the Celtics take Tyreke Evans onto the 2012-2013 roster? Heck yeah, he'd make a great 6th man.

If Wroten, who just turned 19 a month ago, can develop any kind of reliability with his jumper, he could be better than Evans, and a definite quality go-to scorer.

He's a nasty defender, tough as nails, and physical as heck on offense and on the boards. If he can control his flamboyant impulses, he could be a highly effective point guard or shooting guard, in the same game - for a reserve player, at the least. Rondo and Doc would be close to ideal mentors, for a while at least. The only issue I could see is if Wroten got incredibly good and started grumbling for starter's minutes. Not a bad problem to have when the time comes, as he or Rondo or Bradley could be traded.

There are aspects to his game and personality that I really don't like, but if this kid comes into workouts with a more consistent release point and nails his jumpers, I'm going to be really tempted to want him drafted, depending on the pre-draft gossip about QMiller, A Nicholson, Fab Melo, and Harkless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDuhBYuqsn8

[Atzar]

I don't think Wroten would be a good fit with Rondo.  They both need the ball to do what they do best (and so does Pierce, for that matter) and neither has enough range to keep the opponent from simply packing the lane and daring them to win from outside. 

Having said that, I love his defense, his aggression and his potential.  He's the kind of player who is going to leave a mark on the game when he comes in, for good or worse, and I agree with you that he has the ceiling of a go-to scorer.  If the Celtics are confident that he'll become a good shooter who can play well off the ball, then I wouldn't mind taking a chance on him at all.

[guava_wrench]

I'm still mad that the Celtics missed out on drafting on Marshon Brooks

They did draft him.

I could see Brooks as a future good 6th man Terry or Crawford type. I need to see him play on a team though where Gerald Green doesn't look like a star every other game.

[arambone]

This guy is going to make some team very happy or very angry. I get the feeling he has some bipolar issues in addition to his OCD and anxiety.

Royce White waits and wonders about NBA destination

http://www.indystar.com/article/D2/20120515/SPORTS020604/120515029/Royce-White-waits-wonders-about-NBA-destination?odyssey=mod_sectionstories

When asked about anxiety, he’ll mention plans to produce a documentary about his life.

“A film company has agreed to do it,” White said. “It’s going to be revolutionary in terms of the way we approach mental illness. People are already working on raising money for the project. Once it’s done, we’ll shop it to film festivals.”

It’s all part of his plan – as is producing music for his IAMU (I Am You) music label.

“I’m getting the other part of my life in order, too,” White said. “If basketball doesn’t work out for some reason, I’ve got a Plan A.1 – if everybody has an anxiety about people with anxiety.”

[lon3lytoaster]

I'm not sure if we're realistically going to get a hance to draft a number one type scorer with our picks, but if we have a chance at all it's with Wroten. With the exception of a super reliable jumper, kid is a scorer. He can play the one or two pretty [dang] well and if playing point, I'd love to have an oversized tweener for once. If he develops a midrange shot, and works on driving right he'll be a beast in the NBA.

I also am extremely intrigued by Royce da 6'8. I have a really hard time comparing him to anyone, really though. He's bulky, a pretty good athlete for his size, and has zero problems handling the ball Effeciently. That could cause a lot of problems for some forwards in the league. Im curious to know if he has real go to post moves though. If he does, that's a huge plus. As for his anxiety, get him some adivan and he should be able to fly no problem.

Other than that Terrence Ross is the only other player I'm really interested in. Of he can play SF, that'd be nice and might be a better fit due to his lack of handles. Maybe Paul George-esque?

[ChapelHillCeltic]

Two concerns for me.

1. Can White take the strong coaching from Doc and the established vets here?
It seems like Hoiberg let him do whatever he wanted to at Iowa State.
That will not fly here.  He will have a role and freelancing is not it.

2. Can he be successful without the ball?  Rondo monopolizes it, as he should, and I don't know if Royce can flourish without it.

[Evantime34]

I'd say with where we pick go to scoring potential is unlikely, however drafting instant offense off the bench (Dion Waiters, Tony Wroten) or young athletic players that could turn into good scorers (Quincy Miller, Moe Harkless).

Personally if Waiters is there I'd like to take him with our first pick then follow him with the best big available (Melo, or White).

[LooseCannon]

I'm still mad that the Celtics missed out on drafting on Marshon Brooks

They did draft him.

I could see Brooks as a future good 6th man Terry or Crawford type. I need to see him play on a team though where Gerald Green doesn't look like a star every other game.

Jamal Crawford isn't that great of a player and I'd argue that an inefficient volume scoring wing who doesn't play defense and doesn't hit threes at a good rate is a horrible fit for the Celtics.

What do people mean by go-to scoring potential, anyways?  Can someone fit that description without being an iso-ball scorer?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Khris Middleton is your guy.

6'8'' 210 lbs. Can drive, can shoot off the dribble and off the catch.

He has mobility issues but his athleticism and some experience could make him better in a few years.

Could be a nice wing backup for Paul.