Give Ryan Hollins some credit.

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I give Hollins due credit for coming in and playing if anything a bit above his level for some extended key playoff minutes, instead of below it.  Being able to go four deep in frontcourt rotation is big.

I do wonder, however, how much Doc's take on player performances sometimes fit with reality.  He referred last night to how Hollins has been 'rebounding his butt off', when Hollins's playoff rebounding rate has been 7.2/36 minutes. 

In contrast, Stiemer rebounded at a 13.7/36 rate--190% of what Hollins has done.  KG at 10.0/36 is the only other Celtic who's been boarding near Stiemer's pace.

Stiemer's rebounded not only at a higher rate than Josh Smith, but at a greater rate than any other NBA player who has averaged at least 10 minutes a game has rebounded so far in the playoffs.

I'm almost wondering whether KG's pushing hard for his friend Hollins to play and Doc is trying to oblige in an effort to woo KG back next year.

[Fafnir]

Go take a look on nba.com advanced stats section, when Bass is in versus the Hawks starters we get 44% of rebounds.

When Hollins has been paired with KG we've fared better overall than with Bass on the boards, and Geg didn't do well if he and Horford were both in the game.

Horford had 12 reb per 36 with Greg in the game and only 6.8 reb per 36 with Hollins on the court. He was shooting over 60% with Greg on the floor compared to 50% with Hollins. When Bass was on the court it was even worse 71%.....

Sometimes working your but off on the boards means that you just prevent your opponent from getting a board and your team mate scoops it from the wing instead.

Hollins did his job last night, he's still not a good player. He kills our offense and missed two chances at easy dunks, but he also had a great effect on our defense offsetting his poor offense.

[wdleehi]

Outside of KG, none of the Celtics big men one on one defense was great.


But Hollins, unlike Greg, did a better job staying in front of Hortford and Smith. 



Going into the Philly series, I think we will see more Greg though.  Hawes and Brand are not the speed guys the Hawks have. 

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Go take a look on nba.com advanced stats section, when Bass is in versus the Hawks starters we get 44% of rebounds.

When Hollins has been paired with KG we've fared better overall than with Bass on the boards, and Geg didn't do well if he and Horford were both in the game.

Horford had 12 reb per 36 with Greg in the game and only 6.8 reb per 36 with Hollins on the court. He was shooting over 60% with Greg on the floor compared to 50% with Hollins. When Bass was on the court it was even worse 71%.....

Sometimes working your but off on the boards means that you just prevent your opponent from getting a board and your team mate scoops it from the wing instead.

That makes sense: Bass has been rebounding at an anemic 6.4/36 minute rate and he's also been playing starter's minutes--largely when Atlanta's best rebounder by far, Josh Smith, has been in.

[Who]

I thought Hollins did a good job.

Hollins is only a third string center. A limited player. He did about as well as one can reasonably expect out of him. Used him speed and size well on team defense. Bothered Atlanta's offense from time to time. Made a few hustle plays. A job well done.

[triple-doublerr]

Hollins does deserve credit for his energy & defensive effort even though the net sum is not always positive.
We won the series & ultimately that's all that matters!

Hollins on the floor with KG worked out good enough for us to eek out the win the last 2 games but I'm not sure that the same effect couldn't have been accomplished to a greater degree with Williams in with KG instead. In the few games that I've seen him play for us Williams matches Hollins' effort & energy & appeared to be more fundamentally sound on the offense end as well as being a more active rebounder. I guess it's a matter of him not being here long enough to warrant Doc's confidence in him but it's whatever.

I agonize every time that they pass Hollins the ball because he tends to have butter fingers so more often than not feeding him has turned into turnovers.He doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball when he gets it even when he is right underneath the basket. Hopefully for the rest of the playoffs we won't need to see him on the court quite as much & if we do hopefully he improves a little bit more past the point of frustration, that's all we can ask for.

[Celtics18]

Nice job, Ryan!! You're a Celtic now.

[RyNye]

I like Hollins. It is obvious that he hustles, even if he utterly lacks basketball IQ. I love the Wisconsin Steamboat, too, and getting his aching feet some rest is great.

I would like to see more of Williams. I know he was only signed for the emergency duty, but when he did play he seemed to bring everything Hollins did in terms of hustle, with a slight edge in the box score.

[soap07]

Reminded me of Mikki Moore, good ways and bad.

Hollins is a very limited player but he makes the most use of what little ability he has. I'll give him credit for that.

[ForexPirate]

don't forget - if we get as far as the Lakers in the finals, we are going to have to have some size in the front court to defend Bynum and Gasol.  Pairing Hollins and KG may help.  As much as I like Bass, he is undersized to deal with Gasol. 

[Celticsfan336]

I give Hollins due credit for coming in and playing if anything a bit above his level for some extended key playoff minutes, instead of below it.  Being able to go four deep in frontcourt rotation is big.

I do wonder, however, how much Doc's take on player performances sometimes fit with reality.  He referred last night to how Hollins has been 'rebounding his butt off', when Hollins's playoff rebounding rate has been 7.2/36 minutes. 

In contrast, Stiemer rebounded at a 13.7/36 rate--190% of what Hollins has done.  KG at 10.0/36 is the only other Celtic who's been boarding near Stiemer's pace.

Stiemer's rebounded not only at a higher rate than Josh Smith, but at a greater rate than any other NBA player who has averaged at least 10 minutes a game has rebounded so far in the playoffs.

I'm almost wondering whether KG's pushing hard for his friend Hollins to play and Doc is trying to oblige in an effort to woo KG back next year.

Theres a lot more to it than just the number of rebounds you actually get. He blocks out brings energy, he sparked that run in game 5 that was much needed......and also sparked a run tonight with a big dunk.

not to mention he won the game for us forcing that over the back call, which was Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing bullEdited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. call because he laid iit up in for the lead with 40 seconds left or so and that would have been the game iwnner, and people wouild be singing his praise.

[clover]

I give Hollins due credit for coming in and playing if anything a bit above his level for some extended key playoff minutes, instead of below it.  Being able to go four deep in frontcourt rotation is big.

I do wonder, however, how much Doc's take on player performances sometimes fit with reality.  He referred last night to how Hollins has been 'rebounding his butt off', when Hollins's playoff rebounding rate has been 7.2/36 minutes. 

In contrast, Stiemer rebounded at a 13.7/36 rate--190% of what Hollins has done.  KG at 10.0/36 is the only other Celtic who's been boarding near Stiemer's pace.

Stiemer's rebounded not only at a higher rate than Josh Smith, but at a greater rate than any other NBA player who has averaged at least 10 minutes a game has rebounded so far in the playoffs.

I'm almost wondering whether KG's pushing hard for his friend Hollins to play and Doc is trying to oblige in an effort to woo KG back next year.

Theres a lot more to it than just the number of rebounds you actually get. He blocks out brings energy, he sparked that run in game 5 that was much needed......and also sparked a run tonight with a big dunk.

not to mention he won the game for us forcing that over the back call, which was ****ing bull**** call because he laid iit up in for the lead with 40 seconds left or so and that would have been the game iwnner, and people wouild be singing his praise.

Agreed and I gave him credit.

But Doc praised Hollins for something he clearly hasn't been doing at nearly a high level, while he's given no recognition at all to the other bench big who has distinguished himself, league-wide, in that category.

[StartOrien]

don't forget - if we get as far as the Lakers in the finals, we are going to have to have some size in the front court to defend Bynum and Gasol.  Pairing Hollins and KG may help.  As much as I like Bass, he is undersized to deal with Gasol.  

As talented as he is, Andrew Bynum has single-handily brought the Nuggets back into this series.

In the unlikely event that we see them in the Finals, I think the Lakers have as much to worry about our transition offense as we do about their size.

[clover]

Of the bigs, KG knows the system the best and Hollins the least. 

In his pregame interview Doc said he was trying to keep KG and Hollins playing together, presumably in part for that reason.  And KG always makes whoever is playing in the frontcourt with him look and play better.

[thestackshow]

don't forget - if we get as far as the Lakers in the finals, we are going to have to have some size in the front court to defend Bynum and Gasol.  Pairing Hollins and KG may help.  As much as I like Bass, he is undersized to deal with Gasol.  

As talented as he is, Andrew Bynum has single-handily brought the Nuggets back into this series.

In the unlikely event that we see them in the Finals, I think the Lakers have as much to worry about our transition offense as we do about their size.

Lakers wont make it out of the first round and if they do, will get swept by the Thunder. Lakers are done as far as contention, we no longer have to worry about them.