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Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2012, 07:51:54 PM »

Offline LarBrd33

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Brought this up a few weeks ago:
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Just took a look at what Pierce did in the 8 game stretch with Rondo out and it seems to back that up:

1/20 (LOSS) 12 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks
1/22 (Win) 34 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 steals
1/23 (win) 19 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds
1/26 (win) 24 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 block
1/27 (win) 28 points, 8 assists, 10 rebounds, 3 steals,2  blocks
1/29 (loss) 18 points, 5 assists, 6 rebounds
1/31 (win) 20 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals
2/1 (win) 17 points, 8 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block
4/18 (win) 29 points, 14 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals
Pierce usually steps up his game with Rondo out... which makes sense since the ball pretty much flowed through him his entire career up until late 2009.

  Our offense was *worse* when Rondo was out for those games, not better.
I should hope so... otherwise Rondo is the most overrated player in the league.  Still... we usually manage to cope without him mainly because Pierce is a better player and he steps it up.

Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2012, 10:33:56 PM »

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Pierce has played some of his best ball when rondo has been out...im hoping that being down 0-1 and rondo being out lights a fire under these guys behinds and they go out and get a W...

Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2012, 10:42:51 PM »

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Pierce seemed really lethargic and unmotivated in the last game...we all know the type of player Pierce is.

Last game he just seemed very disinterested, shot a bunch of ill-advisted long jumpers and 3's and only attacked the paint once or twice...maybe his foots bothering him? Either way we need a completely different PP if were going to win in the playoffs.
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Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2012, 11:27:50 PM »

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It happens. Sometimes you don't miss during the pregame shootaround and get so confident. But suddenly can't find the net once the whistle starts. It usually doesn't happen to the Cap'n for consecutive games. We'll find out soon enough.

Back on topic. I'm glad it was only 1 game.
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Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2012, 10:30:28 PM »

Offline LarBrd33

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Brought this up a few weeks ago:
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Just took a look at what Pierce did in the 8 game stretch with Rondo out and it seems to back that up:

1/20 (LOSS) 12 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks
1/22 (Win) 34 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 steals
1/23 (win) 19 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds
1/26 (win) 24 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 block
1/27 (win) 28 points, 8 assists, 10 rebounds, 3 steals,2  blocks
1/29 (loss) 18 points, 5 assists, 6 rebounds
1/31 (win) 20 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals
2/1 (win) 17 points, 8 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block
4/18 (win) 29 points, 14 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals
Pierce usually steps up his game with Rondo out... which makes sense since the ball pretty much flowed through him his entire career up until late 2009.

  Our offense was *worse* when Rondo was out for those games, not better.
I should hope so... otherwise Rondo is the most overrated player in the league.  Still... we usually manage to cope without him mainly because Pierce is a better player and he steps it up.
Ah hem... I rest my case.

5/1 (win) 36 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists.

Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2012, 10:33:51 PM »

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crazy how he steps it up

Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2012, 07:34:53 AM »

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Brought this up a few weeks ago:
Quote
Just took a look at what Pierce did in the 8 game stretch with Rondo out and it seems to back that up:

1/20 (LOSS) 12 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks
1/22 (Win) 34 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 steals
1/23 (win) 19 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds
1/26 (win) 24 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 block
1/27 (win) 28 points, 8 assists, 10 rebounds, 3 steals,2  blocks
1/29 (loss) 18 points, 5 assists, 6 rebounds
1/31 (win) 20 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals
2/1 (win) 17 points, 8 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block
4/18 (win) 29 points, 14 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals
Pierce usually steps up his game with Rondo out... which makes sense since the ball pretty much flowed through him his entire career up until late 2009.

  Our offense was *worse* when Rondo was out for those games, not better.
I should hope so... otherwise Rondo is the most overrated player in the league.  Still... we usually manage to cope without him mainly because Pierce is a better player and he steps it up.
Ah hem... I rest my case.

5/1 (win) 36 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists.

  I'm not sure why it should be surprising that PP has big games when Rondo's out. He's the only other player on the team that can really handle the ball or create anything on offense. What do people expect to happen to Paul's numbers when he has the ball in his hands every trip on offense? This isnt the unlikely occurrence that you think it is.

Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #52 on: May 02, 2012, 07:13:39 PM »

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Brought this up a few weeks ago:
Quote
Just took a look at what Pierce did in the 8 game stretch with Rondo out and it seems to back that up:

1/20 (LOSS) 12 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks
1/22 (Win) 34 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 steals
1/23 (win) 19 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds
1/26 (win) 24 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 block
1/27 (win) 28 points, 8 assists, 10 rebounds, 3 steals,2  blocks
1/29 (loss) 18 points, 5 assists, 6 rebounds
1/31 (win) 20 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals
2/1 (win) 17 points, 8 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block
4/18 (win) 29 points, 14 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals
Pierce usually steps up his game with Rondo out... which makes sense since the ball pretty much flowed through him his entire career up until late 2009.

  Our offense was *worse* when Rondo was out for those games, not better.
I should hope so... otherwise Rondo is the most overrated player in the league.  Still... we usually manage to cope without him mainly because Pierce is a better player and he steps it up.
Ah hem... I rest my case.

5/1 (win) 36 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists.

  I'm not sure why it should be surprising that PP has big games when Rondo's out. He's the only other player on the team that can really handle the ball or create anything on offense. What do people expect to happen to Paul's numbers when he has the ball in his hands every trip on offense? This isnt the unlikely occurrence that you think it is.
Point is... it makes you wonder if our offense would actually be "better" by replacing Rondo with a shooter like Steph Curry or Jose Calderon.  As long as Paul Pierce can carry the load on offense and is comfortable letting the ball flow through him... you can easily make the argument that having a shooter (curry) as opposed to a setup guy (rondo) would be more beneficial to our offense. 

Naturally you remove Rondo (our 3rd best player) and we're going to take a step back... but funny we always tend to get the job done without him.  Alternatively... remove KG or Pierce from the lineup and the team is pretty much always toast.

If the argument can be made that our offense would be "better" with a shooter like Calderon... surely the argument can easily be made that our offense would be better with a complete offensive star + distribution star like Deron Williams.  :)

Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2012, 07:22:12 PM »

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Pierce was fantastic last night.

However, the team's offense was not. Only 14 assists on 29 made FGs.

If Pierce doesn't make half his shots, and the team doesn't play stifling defense during the second half, the Celtics lose.
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Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2012, 07:23:19 PM »

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Brought this up a few weeks ago:
Quote
Just took a look at what Pierce did in the 8 game stretch with Rondo out and it seems to back that up:

1/20 (LOSS) 12 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks
1/22 (Win) 34 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 steals
1/23 (win) 19 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds
1/26 (win) 24 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 block
1/27 (win) 28 points, 8 assists, 10 rebounds, 3 steals,2  blocks
1/29 (loss) 18 points, 5 assists, 6 rebounds
1/31 (win) 20 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals
2/1 (win) 17 points, 8 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block
4/18 (win) 29 points, 14 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals
Pierce usually steps up his game with Rondo out... which makes sense since the ball pretty much flowed through him his entire career up until late 2009.

  Our offense was *worse* when Rondo was out for those games, not better.
I should hope so... otherwise Rondo is the most overrated player in the league.  Still... we usually manage to cope without him mainly because Pierce is a better player and he steps it up.
Ah hem... I rest my case.

5/1 (win) 36 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists.

  I'm not sure why it should be surprising that PP has big games when Rondo's out. He's the only other player on the team that can really handle the ball or create anything on offense. What do people expect to happen to Paul's numbers when he has the ball in his hands every trip on offense? This isnt the unlikely occurrence that you think it is.
Point is... it makes you wonder if our offense would actually be "better" by replacing Rondo with a shooter like Steph Curry or Jose Calderon.  As long as Paul Pierce can carry the load on offense and is comfortable letting the ball flow through him... you can easily make the argument that having a shooter (curry) as opposed to a setup guy (rondo) would be more beneficial to our offense. 

Naturally you remove Rondo (our 3rd best player) and we're going to take a step back... but funny we always tend to get the job done without him.  Alternatively... remove KG or Pierce from the lineup and the team is pretty much always toast.

If the argument can be made that our offense would be "better" with a shooter like Calderon... surely the argument can easily be made that our offense would be better with a complete offensive star + distribution star like Deron Williams.  :)

  I could make the argument that the offense would be significantly worse with Williams. The fact that someone argues something doesn't make it true.

Re: News: Rondo Suspended 1 Game
« Reply #55 on: May 02, 2012, 08:36:43 PM »

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Brought this up a few weeks ago:
Quote
Just took a look at what Pierce did in the 8 game stretch with Rondo out and it seems to back that up:

1/20 (LOSS) 12 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks
1/22 (Win) 34 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 steals
1/23 (win) 19 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds
1/26 (win) 24 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 block
1/27 (win) 28 points, 8 assists, 10 rebounds, 3 steals,2  blocks
1/29 (loss) 18 points, 5 assists, 6 rebounds
1/31 (win) 20 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals
2/1 (win) 17 points, 8 assists, 6 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block
4/18 (win) 29 points, 14 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals
Pierce usually steps up his game with Rondo out... which makes sense since the ball pretty much flowed through him his entire career up until late 2009.

  Our offense was *worse* when Rondo was out for those games, not better.
I should hope so... otherwise Rondo is the most overrated player in the league.  Still... we usually manage to cope without him mainly because Pierce is a better player and he steps it up.
Ah hem... I rest my case.

5/1 (win) 36 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists.

  I'm not sure why it should be surprising that PP has big games when Rondo's out. He's the only other player on the team that can really handle the ball or create anything on offense. What do people expect to happen to Paul's numbers when he has the ball in his hands every trip on offense? This isnt the unlikely occurrence that you think it is.
Point is... it makes you wonder if our offense would actually be "better" by replacing Rondo with a shooter like Steph Curry or Jose Calderon.  As long as Paul Pierce can carry the load on offense and is comfortable letting the ball flow through him... you can easily make the argument that having a shooter (curry) as opposed to a setup guy (rondo) would be more beneficial to our offense. 

Naturally you remove Rondo (our 3rd best player) and we're going to take a step back... but funny we always tend to get the job done without him.  Alternatively... remove KG or Pierce from the lineup and the team is pretty much always toast.

If the argument can be made that our offense would be "better" with a shooter like Calderon... surely the argument can easily be made that our offense would be better with a complete offensive star + distribution star like Deron Williams.  :)

Your argument is very peculiar.  I thought part of the point was that before long we'll have to replace Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett, regardless of who our point guard is.  It seems that in your fantasy world, we replace Rondo with Jose Calderon or Steph Curry, or even Deron Williams, and, then, Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett play at an all star level for another 7 to 10 years. 

Or, are you still talking about upgrading for this year?  This is just a reminder; the trade deadline has passed.
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