Ray has bone spurs

[jdz101]

Ray isn't as bad as you think on defense and Bradley's still undersized

I can't think of a SG out there whose size makes me prefer that he be guarded by a healthy Ray Allen rather than Avery Bradley.

Kobe, Rip Hamilton, Joe Johnson.  Demar Derozan was having some success shooting over him.  Harden probably would as well.  Possibly Jason Richardson.  

J-Rich aka "triple couple"!!! Have you watched the Orlando games this year?

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

Ray Allen is the greatest shooter of all time. 

not to nitpick here but did you ever watch Bird play?  If I need someone taking a final shot to win or tie a game, I'd take Bird over Ray 100 times out of 100.

Ray has talent and longevity and I appreciate his skills but let's not go overboard.

You're probably an old timer. Old guys usually prefer Bird over everyone..

[CelticG1]

Ray Allen is the greatest shooter of all time. 

not to nitpick here but did you ever watch Bird play?  If I need someone taking a final shot to win or tie a game, I'd take Bird over Ray 100 times out of 100.

Ray has talent and longevity and I appreciate his skills but let's not go overboard.

I don't know what the percentages are but Ray Allen is certainly up there with greatest off all time. As far as game winning/last second shots he's gotta be up there too. As far as pure shooting you can't go wrong with Ray taking a a final shot

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

At the same time it would be nice to have Super Ray in the 4th quarter with the game on the line and leading the charge with the 2nd unit.

TP..
At this point in his career, Ray's best off the bench and in clutch situations because of his deadly 3 point shooting.. (Statistically the greatest 3 point shooting of all time might I add.. for all you old timers)

Bradley should start.. Definitely. But Ray should finish.

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

Ray Allen is the greatest shooter of all time. 

not to nitpick here but did you ever watch Bird play?  If I need someone taking a final shot to win or tie a game, I'd take Bird over Ray 100 times out of 100.

Ray has talent and longevity and I appreciate his skills but let's not go overboard.

I don't know what the percentages are but Ray Allen is certainly up there with greatest off all time. As far as game winning/last second shots he's gotta be up there too. As far as pure shooting you can't go wrong with Ray taking a a final shot

Larry Bird is a career 37.6% 3 pt shooter.  He's made a total of 649 threes in 13 seasons. 

Ray Allen is a career 40.0% 3 pt shooter.  He's made a total of 2,718 threes in 18 seasons. Second to none.

Ray Allen is clearly the better 3 point shooter.

[LB3533]

Ray's going to need to take something internally to help rectify proper bone growth, calcium absorption and to clean/flush out those spur deposits.

[SHAQATTACK]

I not expecting to see Ray in the first round at all except sitting on the bench in uniform, continue to save and rest him has to be the order of the day. . Maybe in  the second if we advance. I don't think Doc will try and use him much more than spot appearance at a critical situation until its a do or die for a series.

[green7]

I hope he is healthy enough to play in the playoffs. If we need to reduce his minutes just to preserve him so be it.

We need both Pietrus and Ray on the bench to make a run for banner 18.

[wdleehi]

I hope this means they will now have a plan to treat this and get Ray back. 


The Celtics still need him.  We hope Bradley keeps up his good play, but he is still a 2nd year player finally getting minutes about to experience his first important playoff minutes.  It would be good to have talented experience backing him up to lessen the pressure. 

[indeedproceed]

I hope this means they will now have a plan to treat this and get Ray back. 


The Celtics still need him.  We hope Bradley keeps up his good play, but he is still a 2nd year player finally getting minutes about to experience his first important playoff minutes.  It would be good to have talented experience backing him up to lessen the pressure. 

I bet Ray Allen plays.

[CelticHooligan3]

The question i have is if Ray only has bone spurs but his team is gonna be in the playoffs why doesnt he give it a go first round? You have Nikola Pekovic in Minnesota with the same ailment except by all accounts worse but still playing for nothing but pride at this point in the season.

By no means am i calling Ray a JO case who blatantly made excuses and wasted valuable time with injuries. But im just wondering could this have anything to do with his perceived slight and the fact he plans to move on from Boston in the offseason.

[Marcus13]

I figured that was the case for about a month now.  He's had them multiple times in his career before.

No chance of getting by Chicago without him

[Kane3387]

Article says they're small, like a grain of sand.  Bone spurs tells me Ray is dealing with an inflammed tendon.  Bad news.

It's always tendons with this team that do us in.  KG, Shaq, and now possibly Ray.  All tendon issues.

Hopefully it's not so bad he can't play.  Also, SG happens to be our position of greatest depth.  It's possible we might be able to survive with out Ray for a bit.


Link:http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4692629/ray-allens-timetable-still-cloudy

An MRI has revealed tiny bone spurs (Allen said they are the size of a grain of sand), which appear to be the culprit. He said it was nowhere near the problem he had with his ankles in 2006-07, when he had larger bone spurs that necessitated surgery.

Hmmm, well, not sure where you got the info from, but having a bone spur is not an automatic indication that someone is dealing with an inflamed tendon.

Bone spurs are generally related to age, (as in osteoarhritis), when the soft tissue and cartilege between bones breaks down and deteriorates, causing bones to rub together, or pressure and stress being applied more directly to the bone surface by exterior means.

This causes the bone to produce more of itself to repair the area in distress, and that build-up becomes a bump or spur, (which is not sharp, as some people assume from the sound of the word).

It also occurs in the heel, and can be from the patient being overweight, having poorly fitting shoes, or abnormal repeated stress to the area, (as in sports).

For example, this happens when the long ligament on the bottom of the foot, (the plantar fascia), becomes stressed and shortened. This produces a build-up of bone which then inflames the ligament, (maybe this is what you're referring to?).

Anyway, bone spurs are not directly a tendon problem, nor an indication of such, though that can sometimes be an indirect complication or secondary diagnosis.

I personally wouldn't make that assumption in Ray's case, as it sounds like it's from normal ageing and repetitive activity.

Wow. Thanks for the insight Bahku. Great stuff.

So what do you think? Can he play with this and be productive? How painful is it? Honestly I just have a feeling he won't be able to play in the playoffs. I don't think he will be ruled OUT like KG in 2009, but I see this being Shaq from last year all over again.

Sigh. Another season and another playoffs where a majority of the time starter misses games ultimately ending our season prematurely.

[Marcus13]

Im more concerned with Pietrus to be honest, Ray is just a spot up shooter nowadays, can easily plug in Moore or Dooling in his place.

Uh, if we have to rely on Moore and Dooling or even Bradley for that matter to cover for Ray we're in a bad way.

Bradley is a much better player then Ray at this stage in their careers, we will see if he still has confidence in the playoffs, but as far as right now, Bradley is the better player, Ray is just a spot up 3 point shooter right now that is old and cant defend for the most part, I wish him a speedy recovery but he is just a bench player this year, its up to the other guys to step up.

I know you love Avery and all, but none of this is actually true, man

[Eddie20]

Ray Allen is the greatest shooter of all time. 

not to nitpick here but did you ever watch Bird play?  If I need someone taking a final shot to win or tie a game, I'd take Bird over Ray 100 times out of 100.

Ray has talent and longevity and I appreciate his skills but let's not go overboard.

I don't know what the percentages are but Ray Allen is certainly up there with greatest off all time. As far as game winning/last second shots he's gotta be up there too. As far as pure shooting you can't go wrong with Ray taking a a final shot

Larry Bird is a career 37.6% 3 pt shooter.  He's made a total of 649 threes in 13 seasons. 

Ray Allen is a career 40.0% 3 pt shooter.  He's made a total of 2,718 threes in 18 seasons. Second to none.

Ray Allen is clearly the better 3 point shooter.

The game changed so much from the 80's to today. Not to mention that Bird barely shot them early in his career. If Bird played in today's 3pt happy NBA, and if he truly wanted to, rest assured that he would be the 3pt king. Bird basically did whatever he wanted on the court.