Doc's improvement..!

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Well, along with any player, a coach can improve also. Any other year, doc would have the guys out there till there last tendon thread, fighting for....another rung on the position chart. This year he has shown a lot of better decision making. Finally sitting marquis, playing steamer, bradley, ray as the 6th man..considering the recent past, all tough things to do in this organization...!

 His rotations are better, the matchups he is trying are better. Sasha on Melo was one that stands out because it worked very well. Also this "more" playing time for sasha, hollis, and now even marquis will be good for us throughout the playoffs. As it is, we could be the "X" team in the playoffs, the ones no one really wants to play, because we are set up pretty well.

[OmarSekou]

I think it's been a matter of getting good, mature players who buy into his system.

When Doc first came in I couldn't stand him. Our team would make boneheaded mistakes and I thought he mismanaged games. But once the Big 3 came in, everything clicked. I realized that the problem had never been Doc.

An ability to manage and coach elite egos and talent is the most important skill an NBA coach can have. Doc has that.

He's the anti SVG, D'Antoni, Spoelstra, etc. Whether it's because of what he's been doing as a coach or who his players are, he's putting himself in that Jackson, Popovich, Riley class at least in terms of his current production.

[CoachBo]

Yeah, I really don't buy the notion at all that Doc has "improved."

Guy's always been one of the best on the bench in the league.

His approach, though, succeeds best with mature, intelligent basketball players, and it magnifies the warts of players who can't, as John Wooden used to say, "think the game." Smart, defensive-oriented basketball that requires intelligent players to hit on all cylinders.

Early on, we didn't have any of that - no smarts, no maturity, no defense - and the results were, predictably, poor. That's why as long as Doc's here, there's not going to be any room on the roster for the players who fascinate posters here because of their "awesome dunks" or things like that.

What goes on between a player's ears is always going to be far more important to Doc than an ESPN highlight or two, and that's why this franchise isn't going to slip that far during any rebuild.

The "improvement" over Doc's tenure came when we stopped trying to fit square, unintelligent, immature players into Doc's round holes.

[Celtics18]

A ranking of NBA coaches:

Popovich
Rivers
Everybody else (in some order)

[Marcus13]

A ranking of NBA coaches:

Popovich
Rivers
Everybody else (in some order)

Thibs > Doc

[Celtics18]

A ranking of NBA coaches:

Popovich
Rivers
Everybody else (in some order)

Thibs > Doc

Thibs has done a very good job with the Bulls.  I would put him right near the top of that "Everybody else" category.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Well another thing then..it doesn't matter what, as a coach you "know" if you cannot get it into the team, then still nothing changes....and it never is one guys fault, on a team, so when things weren't working, youy cannot seperate and say the "team" didn't listen then, or the coach didn't lead....that is the development...to get it where BOTH happen.

[CelticG1]

why do people think Thibs is better than Doc? Because he's been a coach for 2 years with a better record? Any other reason?

[Marcus13]

why do people think Thibs is better than Doc? Because he's been a coach for 2 years with a better record? Any other reason?

Well we won a championship in our one chance with him and haven't since.  Then he went to a Bulls team that just isn't very talented, ESPECIALLY without Rose, and has the best record in the conference.

It's our system...except they REBOUND.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Well, like it or not, a coach, over time has a signature on a team/time frame.....doc maybe melded a few stars..something others seem to not be able to do....different stars yes, but something big still the same...but the negative one is his idea that rebounding is not a good use of energy....for whatever reason he has.....i know some say you should get back on D...but if you get the rebound, you don't have to get back no where....! and no one throws a fast break pass when you are in their grill...! They are covering up and lucky to be holding the ball.

[kozlodoev]

why do people think Thibs is better than Doc? Because he's been a coach for 2 years with a better record? Any other reason?

Well we won a championship in our one chance with him and haven't since.

Um no, not really. He was here for the two years after the championship too.

[SHAQATTACK]

Doc has earned the respect of the players and coachs and people who count for something in the NBA.

Alot of coach will never get to where he is at , no matter how many top 10 players they have.

[Marcus13]

why do people think Thibs is better than Doc? Because he's been a coach for 2 years with a better record? Any other reason?

Well we won a championship in our one chance with him and haven't since.

Um no, not really. He was here for the two years after the championship too.

Well, I was taking 09 out as we without Garnett so I dont feel we were legit contendors.  We had Doc for 10 when we went to game 7??  For whatever reason I thought he left for Chicago before that season

[thestackshow]

why do people think Thibs is better than Doc? Because he's been a coach for 2 years with a better record? Any other reason?

Well we won a championship in our one chance with him and haven't since.  Then he went to a Bulls team that just isn't very talented, ESPECIALLY without Rose, and has the best record in the conference.

It's our system...except they REBOUND.

Doc doesent have the same personel that the Bulls have.

Bulls have lots of young bigs who are good at rebounding.

Celtics barely have any bigs and the ones we have arent good at rebounding.

Not to mention we are old and the Bulls are very young.

I disagree that the Bulls arent very talented. Being big and being able to play defense in his system is talented, they also have the best bench in the league.

Bulls have plenty of talent, they dont even need Rose to win games, because they have enough rebounding and defense to keep them in every single game.

[alajet]

why do people think Thibs is better than Doc? Because he's been a coach for 2 years with a better record? Any other reason?

Well we won a championship in our one chance with him and haven't since.  Then he went to a Bulls team that just isn't very talented, ESPECIALLY without Rose, and has the best record in the conference.

It's our system...except they REBOUND.

Hamilton, Deng, Boozer, Noah and Gibson looks like a pretty talented supporting cast to Rose. Hamilton can score, Deng does everything, Boozer can score at will, Noah and Gibson can lock down the paint and boards with their energy.
Also, they have a three-point specialist in Kyle Korver and defensive specialist in Ronnie Brewer. Lucas and Watson stepped up with Rose out, also Asik can rebound and block.
None of these players mentioned above are super-talented. But all have their roles set and can play together.