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If you are Danny, what do you do with BBass?

Sign him to a hefty one year contract, a la Jeff Green.
12 (13.3%)
Sign him to a multi-year contract in the $6-8 million range.
36 (40%)
Let him opt out and be gone.
2 (2.2%)
Sign and trade him.
9 (10%)
This is too fluid a situation, and we can't make a decision right now.
31 (34.4%)

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Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2012, 10:42:36 AM »

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Don't know how you do it, but you keep him at all costs.

People are all caught up in Jeff Green, but people forget he is not a great player, and has no definable role.

Absolutely not.  He's been good, but he's still the weak link int he starting rotation - and you don't kill the team's cap flexibility for a guy that's ideally your third big, coming off the bench.

Again, besides shooting that jumper (which he is pretty [dang] good at), what else does Bass do at an above-average level?  He's certainly a rotation-caliber player, but he's an average defender (he still seems to miss more rotations than anyone else) and a mediocre rebounder. 

He's a good player - and better than the guy he replaced in many respects - but he's just not worth wasting cap space on.  Don't spent all your flexibility on middling players, unless you want to become the Detroit Pistons.

This.  If KG comes back, we don't have room to sign anyone else, so keep him for continuity.  Other than that, he's a MLE-level player, and that's his ceiling to play on our 2nd round exit teams for the next few years.

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2012, 04:50:38 PM »

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Personally I'd like them to sign him to a 3-4 year deal. He plays hard every night, unlike some other players. He's steady, has a nice jump shot and can take it to the hoop. He rebounds and seems to play good defense within the Celtics system. I very rarly see him out of position and as I said he shows up every game, and seem okay with comming off the bench or starting.
Maybe Johnson can be that guy, but I haven't seen it. You know what you're getting with Bass. I see no reason why you wouldn't want to keep him on the team. 

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2012, 05:03:25 PM »

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Bass is the kind of player a team wins championships with. We need him.

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2012, 05:20:39 PM »

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The answer has to be "too fluid to know".

This team is one serious injury to one of the Big Three(Rondo, KG, Pierce) from having to completely rethink what they do next year. If any of these guys get hurt and can't be around next year, all bets are off regarding who is staying and who isn't.

Without injuries to major players I think

Rondo, Pierce, Bradley, Johnson and two draft 1st round picks are for sure.

I think Steimsma will be brought back on the cheap.

Then I think everyone else is renounced and the Celtics do everything they can to fit Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Jeff Green, Brandon Bass and Mickael Pietrus back on this team with what remains of the salary cap space. 

If Moore looks good in Summer Camp, he might get another vet min salary for a year.

I also think they spend there MMLE on a vet.

Honestly, depending on how things work in the playoffs, is it outlandish to think that every resigned player except Green, gets a two year deal?

I'm a little under the weather, nick, so I may have missed something.  However, if we're not signing an impact free agent, why not just use Bird rights?  If we're signing our own players, there's no need to renounce anybody.  Also, by doing so, we get to use the slightly more lucrative mini-MLE (or, potentially, the full MLE, depending upon what our luxury tax situation), rather than the shorter "room exception".
Because I was under the impression by withdrawing the QO on Green and making him an UFA, we no longer have the Bird rights of Jeff Green. If we don't renounce everyone, there will be no room to sign him because all the other cap holds will cause the C's not have enough room to sign him.

Now if that isn't the case, then do we also still own Nenad Krstic's Bird right's? If so it makes sense to attempt a one year deal for whoever will take it though my guess is Green, Krstic, Bass, and possibly, KG and Ray may not be too fond of that idea.

Yes, we still have Bird rights on both Green and Krstic. As far as I understand, declining to extend a QO doesn't cut off Bird rights like, say, declining a rookie option would.

Krstic signed for 2 years in russia, don't think we can get him next year

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2012, 05:31:17 PM »

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I really do think that a strong playoff run this year means that at least KG (if not Ray too) is going to be around until the end of Paul's contract. 

And that frees us up to at least sign the likes of Bass and Green to two year deals. 

It still might not be enough, but it'll probably be easier to convince him to stay by overpaying for two years than overpaying for just one. 

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2012, 05:35:23 PM »

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Krstic signed for 2 years in russia, don't think we can get him next year

It was reported he could pay a $1 million buyout to get out of the second year.  I believe that NBA rules prohibit the Celtics from paying more than about $500K of that.
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Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2012, 07:46:49 PM »

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Krstic signed for 2 years in russia, don't think we can get him next year

It was reported he could pay a $1 million buyout to get out of the second year.  I believe that NBA rules prohibit the Celtics from paying more than about $500K of that.
Is that the figure it was just adjusted up to because I know the new CBA changed the amount you could give?

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2012, 11:46:43 PM »

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Hope he exercises his player option?

We need to keep as many players we can.
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Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2012, 01:23:03 PM »

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Anybody who thinks Bass can be a very valuable player post Big 3 era is high.

Let him walk. Thanks for your solid contribution in 2012, but you're not worth the money.

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2012, 02:19:34 PM »

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Anybody who thinks Bass can be a very valuable player post Big 3 era is high.

Let him walk. Thanks for your solid contribution in 2012, but you're not worth the money.
Anyone who thinks player evaluation is this straightforward is brain damaged.

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2012, 02:34:50 PM »

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Anybody who thinks Bass can be a very valuable player post Big 3 era is high.

Let him walk. Thanks for your solid contribution in 2012, but you're not worth the money.
Anyone who thinks player evaluation is this straightforward is brain damaged.
Lol
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Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2012, 06:07:13 PM »

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Anybody who thinks Bass can be a very valuable player post Big 3 era is high.

Let him walk. Thanks for your solid contribution in 2012, but you're not worth the money.
Anyone who thinks player evaluation is this straightforward is brain damaged.

26 year old 2nd round pick having the best year of his career because he's playing with one of the best TEAMS we've seen. Nobody shares the ball like this team.

He's getting his numbers shooting wide open mid to close range jumpers.

I think it's pretty straight forward... Again, thank you for 2012, but you're not a big piece of the future. LOVE him for 2012.. I'm not paying him much for long after this.

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2012, 06:15:07 PM »

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Anybody who thinks Bass can be a very valuable player post Big 3 era is high.

Let him walk. Thanks for your solid contribution in 2012, but you're not worth the money.
Anyone who thinks player evaluation is this straightforward is brain damaged.

26 year old 2nd round pick having the best year of his career because he's playing with one of the best TEAMS we've seen. Nobody shares the ball like this team.

He's getting his numbers shooting wide open mid to close range jumpers.

I think it's pretty straight forward... Again, thank you for 2012, but you're not a big piece of the future. LOVE him for 2012.. I'm not paying him much for long after this.

Bass is great for this year's team, but I don't want to commit too much money long term to him, he's not worth building with for the future.

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2012, 06:28:00 PM »

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Anybody who thinks Bass can be a very valuable player post Big 3 era is high.

Let him walk. Thanks for your solid contribution in 2012, but you're not worth the money.
Anyone who thinks player evaluation is this straightforward is brain damaged.

26 year old 2nd round pick having the best year of his career because he's playing with one of the best TEAMS we've seen. Nobody shares the ball like this team.

He's getting his numbers shooting wide open mid to close range jumpers.

I think it's pretty straight forward... Again, thank you for 2012, but you're not a big piece of the future. LOVE him for 2012.. I'm not paying him much for long after this.

Bass is great for this year's team, but I don't want to commit too much money long term to him, he's not worth building with for the future.

Exactly

Re: POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?
« Reply #59 on: April 14, 2012, 07:31:00 PM »

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Anybody who thinks Bass can be a very valuable player post Big 3 era is high.

Let him walk. Thanks for your solid contribution in 2012, but you're not worth the money.
Anyone who thinks player evaluation is this straightforward is brain damaged.

26 year old 2nd round pick having the best year of his career because he's playing with one of the best TEAMS we've seen. Nobody shares the ball like this team.

He's getting his numbers shooting wide open mid to close range jumpers.

I think it's pretty straight forward... Again, thank you for 2012, but you're not a big piece of the future. LOVE him for 2012.. I'm not paying him much for long after this.
I too feel he fell into a perfect storm and I tend to think that most teams feel the same way. I can see him as an excellent big man off the bench.

Of course, 'very valuable' is hardly a concrete term. He can be a quality rotation player who is part of the rotation for 82 games (as opposed to guys who fall in and out of favor from month to month).