POLL: What to do with Brandon Bass?

[CFAN38]

I vote for the 1 year resign.

I'm all for the Cs resigning KG,Ray,Bass,Pietrus,Steimsma, Wilcox and Green to 1 year deals (maybe Green longer is at a discount).

Let the current team play out this season then add 2 rookies and hopefully health green and wilcox.

Then for 2013 use Avery to check back on Rays minutes, Green to cut back on paul's minutes and a combination of big men to limit KGs minutes. Limiting there minutes to hopefully keep them healthy for one last post season push.   

[paintitgreen]

I don't see a hefty one year resign for Bass. The Celtics have to stay below the luxury tax level this year so they can't spend big money on secondary pieces. And as much as I like Bass, that's what he is. I also definitely would not resign him to a long term deal in the $6-8 mil per year range. Maybe 3 and $18. Maybe. But really, I think he's a $5 million a year player. I'd do 4 and $20 or 3 and $16. Anything like 3 years, $21 million, I'd probably let him walk.

[ianboyextreme]

I don't see any chance of Bass coming back on a one-year deal, though.  He's shown just enough (I think) to command a deal that's probably going to be similar to the deal that Baby Davis signed.  I certainly don't see him as a guy that we'd commit any long-term cap space to, though.

Most likely, maybe a sign-and-trade?  Try and get back a decent big man with one year left?

I don't see Bass around after this season, though.  Too weak on the glass.  Too weak a defender; he's still the weak link on that side of the ball.  He does one thing exceptionally well (mid-range jumpers), everything else, he's pretty unremarkable. 

false. hes a good rebounder and a very good post defender.

[Roy H.]

The answer has to be "too fluid to know".

This team is one serious injury to one of the Big Three(Rondo, KG, Pierce) from having to completely rethink what they do next year. If any of these guys get hurt and can't be around next year, all bets are off regarding who is staying and who isn't.

Without injuries to major players I think

Rondo, Pierce, Bradley, Johnson and two draft 1st round picks are for sure.

I think Steimsma will be brought back on the cheap.

Then I think everyone else is renounced and the Celtics do everything they can to fit Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Jeff Green, Brandon Bass and Mickael Pietrus back on this team with what remains of the salary cap space. 

If Moore looks good in Summer Camp, he might get another vet min salary for a year.

I also think they spend there MMLE on a vet.

Honestly, depending on how things work in the playoffs, is it outlandish to think that every resigned player except Green, gets a two year deal?

I'm a little under the weather, nick, so I may have missed something.  However, if we're not signing an impact free agent, why not just use Bird rights?  If we're signing our own players, there's no need to renounce anybody.  Also, by doing so, we get to use the slightly more lucrative mini-MLE (or, potentially, the full MLE, depending upon what our luxury tax situation), rather than the shorter "room exception".

[Who]

Honestly, depending on how things work in the playoffs, is it outlandish to think that every resigned player except Green, gets a two year deal?

How much cap space would the Celtics have in 2013 if Garnett requires a two year $10 million per annum contract to stay?

If there isn't enough cap space there to sign a max contract player, then yes, I think handing out two year deals could be a quality option for the Celtics.

[Boris Badenov]

I don't see any chance of Bass coming back on a one-year deal, though.  He's shown just enough (I think) to command a deal that's probably going to be similar to the deal that Baby Davis signed.  I certainly don't see him as a guy that we'd commit any long-term cap space to, though.

Most likely, maybe a sign-and-trade?  Try and get back a decent big man with one year left?

I don't see Bass around after this season, though.  Too weak on the glass.  Too weak a defender; he's still the weak link on that side of the ball.  He does one thing exceptionally well (mid-range jumpers), everything else, he's pretty unremarkable. 

false. hes a good rebounder and a very good post defender.

Thank you for that update, Dwight.

[Jon]

Obviously, one year is the ideal situation, but I wonder if Danny goes to two years.  If this team goes deep in the playoffs this year, does the 3 year plan become the 7 year plan?  After all, Pierce is signed through 2014.

I don't think this is the ideal; however, if Danny is convinced we aren't going to sign any good free agents in 2013 either, I think it's worth building assets and keeping the team strong, hoping that we'll be able to make either a deal in 2013 or sign someone in 2014. 

[Mr October]

"too fluid"

Everything hinges on KG. If he re-ups you need to try to keep the key rotation guys, and add/improve wherever else you can.

Right now I'd be willing to over pay per year (about $7.5 per year) for 2 years, to have him preferably as a 6th/7th man. Then he'd expire when Pierce does in 2014, when the free agency class projects to be very deep towards the top.

I think it is also important to identify Bass's Market value. He appears to be very much in the mold of a MLE talent, starting at $5 in the first year.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Well, i would keep him....he is in the flow, works well with our guys...knows rondo...is young enough...and does rebound/shoot well...you don't get many like him..if we could get him for 3 mill a year, like TA would have taken, sign him for 3 years....look at who we lost in the past...something to think about there...!

[nickagneta]

The answer has to be "too fluid to know".

This team is one serious injury to one of the Big Three(Rondo, KG, Pierce) from having to completely rethink what they do next year. If any of these guys get hurt and can't be around next year, all bets are off regarding who is staying and who isn't.

Without injuries to major players I think

Rondo, Pierce, Bradley, Johnson and two draft 1st round picks are for sure.

I think Steimsma will be brought back on the cheap.

Then I think everyone else is renounced and the Celtics do everything they can to fit Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Jeff Green, Brandon Bass and Mickael Pietrus back on this team with what remains of the salary cap space. 

If Moore looks good in Summer Camp, he might get another vet min salary for a year.

I also think they spend there MMLE on a vet.

Honestly, depending on how things work in the playoffs, is it outlandish to think that every resigned player except Green, gets a two year deal?

I'm a little under the weather, nick, so I may have missed something.  However, if we're not signing an impact free agent, why not just use Bird rights?  If we're signing our own players, there's no need to renounce anybody.  Also, by doing so, we get to use the slightly more lucrative mini-MLE (or, potentially, the full MLE, depending upon what our luxury tax situation), rather than the shorter "room exception".

Because I was under the impression by withdrawing the QO on Green and making him an UFA, we no longer have the Bird rights of Jeff Green. If we don't renounce everyone, there will be no room to sign him because all the other cap holds will cause the C's not have enough room to sign him.

Now if that isn't the case, then do we also still own Nenad Krstic's Bird right's? If so it makes sense to attempt a one year deal for whoever will take it though my guess is Green, Krstic, Bass, and possibly, KG and Ray may not be too fond of that idea.

[nickagneta]

I'm really surprised at some of the numbers being bandied about for Bass.

$3 million per ??
$5 million per ??

Last year here is what the market was for PF's

Carl Landry 1 year $8.8 million
Glen Davis 4 year $25.7 million
Josh McRoberts 2 year $6.1 million
David West 2 year $20 million
Thaddeus Young 5 year $40 million
Jeff Green(prior to heart ailment) 1 year $9 million

Brandon Bass is putting up 12.3 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 48% FG% 53% TS% with 1 BPG, 1 APG and only 1 TOPG. And those numbers are fairly consistent whether coming off the bench or starting.

Is he a superstar? No. But he is a valuable young role player and teams will pay considerably more than $5 million per for that.

My guess is to get Bass a 4 year $30 million deal will be needed. Minimum.

[csfansince60s]

I'm really surprised at some of the numbers being bandied about for Bass.

$3 million per ??
$5 million per ??

Last year here is what the market was for PF's

Carl Landry 1 year $8.8 million
Glen Davis 4 year $25.7 million
Josh McRoberts 2 year $6.1 million
David West 2 year $20 million
Thaddeus Young 5 year $40 million
Jeff Green(prior to heart ailment) 1 year $9 million

Brandon Bass is putting up 12.3 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 48% FG% 53% TS% with 1 BPG, 1 APG and only 1 TOPG. And those numbers are fairly consistent whether coming off the bench or starting.

Is he a superstar? No. But he is a valuable young role player and teams will pay considerably more than $5 million per for that.

My guess is to get Bass a 4 year $30 million deal will be needed. Minimum.

Agree with this as I suggested $6-8 million multi-year as an option in the poll.

His option for next year is what, $4.5mil or so. Why would he consider any multi-year for less than 6 or 7?

[SHAQATTACK]

bet we could get DA BIG BABY back el cheapo

We need to keep Bass...hes good people.  Moreover... I especially think Wilcox could be brought back cheap, and he already know the system and Doc and was proud as peacock to be at Boston...something I like to see in a player.

I would give J Green another good look,  because with all this idle time... I think he may have something to prove , now that he has watched his ol buds at OKC....he may just feel he needs to show em they screwed up leting him go.

I'm for bringing as many of the Guys back that KNOW the program and like being here possible.  I see Green and Wilcox being wildmen next season.  Be nice to have Bass with them.
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[Who]

My guess is to get Bass a 4 year $30 million deal will be needed. Minimum.

I think that is more the ceiling than the floor. I'd expect Bass to have offers in the $25-30 million range over four years.

I think contracts will begin to re-adjust to this new CBA this off-season and continue their transition again the following summer before settling into a more steady place. I think those MLE to just over MLE contracts (Bass) will be the one of the first contract types to adjust (downward).

[goCeltics]

don't know which team with cap room will target brandon