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Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2012, 05:13:45 PM »

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I didn't know if I should start new thread for this, but I will add it here for now.

Apparently D Wade feels he should be paid to play for the US Olympic basketball team...and sounds like Ray does too.  Kind of makes me sick to my stomach.  I can understand not wanting to commit the time required, but to ask to get paid is just greedy.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7801502/nba-olympians-compensated

Before I even read the link I thought "well Team USA does sell alot of jerseys..."  Seemed to be the main point of Wade and Ray.

Also I'm sure a lot of those exhibition games bring in some cash in the form of both gate receipts and television rights.  I'm sure there's also several products that pay Team USA for licensing rights.  I'm sure Nike paid a nice amount for the privilege of outfitting the team.

While Team USA is a non-profit, somebody is getting paid.  What's Colangelo's salary as Chairman of the Board?  What does Krzyzewski get to coach?  What are other Team USA higher-ups getting paid?

If everyone else who works for Team USA is a volunteer, and they take all the money they make and help build basketball courts in poor areas, put on clinics, pay for the U16 boys and girls teams, etc., it's one thing.  If Colangelo is getting a 7 figure salary, and if Coach K is getting paid handsomely, it's another thing.






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Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2012, 05:42:19 PM »

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There is undoubtedly a lot of revenue generated by team USA.  Obviously some of that has to pay for people's salaries who administer and coach the teams.  I don't know how much any of the admin or coaches make or how they distribute that pot of money, and in a way it doesn't matter to me.

Paying the athletes themselves is what I have an issue with.
None of the coaches / admin people make anywhere near the amount that the players do playing for the NBA.  Typically you have the top tier players from the NBA playing in the Olympics.  These players don't need more money, they need to think about someone other than themselves.  Comparing the admin / coaches with the players doesn't make sense.

I would think it would be a honor to play for the team.  I don't know why players who make millions of dollars a year would need a monetary incentive to play for their country.  It comes off as completely greedy and self serving.  To me it reduces the value and importance of the olympics to have multi-millionaire basketball players wanting to get paid for everything they do or touch.  It seems out of place for D Wade to even bring that up, or have anyone else support it.



I didn't know if I should start new thread for this, but I will add it here for now.

Apparently D Wade feels he should be paid to play for the US Olympic basketball team...and sounds like Ray does too.  Kind of makes me sick to my stomach.  I can understand not wanting to commit the time required, but to ask to get paid is just greedy.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7801502/nba-olympians-compensated

Before I even read the link I thought "well Team USA does sell alot of jerseys..."  Seemed to be the main point of Wade and Ray.

Also I'm sure a lot of those exhibition games bring in some cash in the form of both gate receipts and television rights.  I'm sure there's also several products that pay Team USA for licensing rights.  I'm sure Nike paid a nice amount for the privilege of outfitting the team.

While Team USA is a non-profit, somebody is getting paid.  What's Colangelo's salary as Chairman of the Board?  What does Krzyzewski get to coach?  What are other Team USA higher-ups getting paid?

If everyone else who works for Team USA is a volunteer, and they take all the money they make and help build basketball courts in poor areas, put on clinics, pay for the U16 boys and girls teams, etc., it's one thing.  If Colangelo is getting a 7 figure salary, and if Coach K is getting paid handsomely, it's another thing.







Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2012, 06:27:10 PM »

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There is undoubtedly a lot of revenue generated by team USA.  Obviously some of that has to pay for people's salaries who administer and coach the teams.  I don't know how much any of the admin or coaches make or how they distribute that pot of money, and in a way it doesn't matter to me.

Paying the athletes themselves is what I have an issue with.
None of the coaches / admin people make anywhere near the amount that the players do playing for the NBA.  Typically you have the top tier players from the NBA playing in the Olympics.  These players don't need more money, they need to think about someone other than themselves.  Comparing the admin / coaches with the players doesn't make sense.

I would think it would be a honor to play for the team.  I don't know why players who make millions of dollars a year would need a monetary incentive to play for their country.  It comes off as completely greedy and self serving.  To me it reduces the value and importance of the olympics to have multi-millionaire basketball players wanting to get paid for everything they do or touch.  It seems out of place for D Wade to even bring that up, or have anyone else support it.



I didn't know if I should start new thread for this, but I will add it here for now.

Apparently D Wade feels he should be paid to play for the US Olympic basketball team...and sounds like Ray does too.  Kind of makes me sick to my stomach.  I can understand not wanting to commit the time required, but to ask to get paid is just greedy.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7801502/nba-olympians-compensated

Before I even read the link I thought "well Team USA does sell alot of jerseys..."  Seemed to be the main point of Wade and Ray.

Also I'm sure a lot of those exhibition games bring in some cash in the form of both gate receipts and television rights.  I'm sure there's also several products that pay Team USA for licensing rights.  I'm sure Nike paid a nice amount for the privilege of outfitting the team.

While Team USA is a non-profit, somebody is getting paid.  What's Colangelo's salary as Chairman of the Board?  What does Krzyzewski get to coach?  What are other Team USA higher-ups getting paid?

If everyone else who works for Team USA is a volunteer, and they take all the money they make and help build basketball courts in poor areas, put on clinics, pay for the U16 boys and girls teams, etc., it's one thing.  If Colangelo is getting a 7 figure salary, and if Coach K is getting paid handsomely, it's another thing.







Just keep in mind that

a) many countries DO pay their athletes.  Even in the US, some of the 'amateur' athletes in some sports get compensated directly or indirectly.  That is generally up to the commission governing that particular sport.

b) The Olympic Games is a giant entertainment business that generates billions in revenues.  Many people get filthy rich off the games.  NBC forked over $4.4B for the TV rights.   Is it okay for every executive and their cousin to make a fortune off the exertions of these athletes, but not the athletes?   That sounds like exploitation.  Where is the 'honor'?

If your problem is with just already-rich NBA players wanting fair compensation for participating in the Olympic Games, would you then not have a problem if an 'amateur' college player received fair compensation for participating in the Games?  Wouldn't that seem like a bit of an arbitrary distinction?

What about a world cup skier, who already makes decent money on the WC circuit, getting paid to hold his ski, 'logo side out' when being interviewed while at the Games?

Amateur athletics is unfortunately rampant with hypocrisy and exploitation.   There isn't much left that is 'pure' and 'honorable' about it.
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Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2012, 06:32:31 PM »

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I think he’s just hurt that he was gonna be cut (and instead left on his own terms). Either he’ll get over it and change his mind at some point, or he’ll hold a grudge forever. I wonder what he’ll do...

I think he's the forever type.

Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2012, 06:37:31 PM »

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I've never seen a correlation between patriotism and the olympics....

Beyond that...The officiating and judging in the olympics make the WWE officiating look legitimate.  (They make the NBA officiating look legitimate)  The corruption runs so deep that the olympics are a parody of itself.

Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2012, 06:59:52 PM »

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I didn't know if I should start new thread for this, but I will add it here for now.

Apparently D Wade feels he should be paid to play for the US Olympic basketball team...and sounds like Ray does too.  Kind of makes me sick to my stomach.  I can understand not wanting to commit the time required, but to ask to get paid is just greedy.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7801502/nba-olympians-compensated

For what reason?  As low an opinion as I have of a cheap shot artist and grandstander like Wade...  This isn't a hobby for him.  This is how they make their living.  Why risk injury for a meaningless exhibition where everybody around them....Including their opponents are being paid?  For what?  Are they making money off of the jerseys?  Anything? 

This isn't about patriotism (lol where the olympics are concerned).
This is common sense.

Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2012, 07:26:22 PM »

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I know and understand everything that you said, and I still stand by what I wrote. 

for your points:
a) I have no idea which athletes get paid and which don't.  are you an expert on the pay scales for olympic athletes?  do you know or have a list?  I would love to see it, but it doesn't change how I feel about NBA players wanting to get paid for their contributions to any USA olympic basketball team.

b) to me it doesn't matter how much the US olympic committe makes off of the rights to television.  That is a separate issue in my mind.  I don't know where all that money goes, I am sure it is highly UNFAIR how it is distributed or used.  But never the less, that doesn't change my opinion that it seems like D wade doesn't give a rats behind about USA basketball if all he is concerned about is getting paid.  My issue with it isn't trying to admonish the poor state of amateur sports, I am just frustrated at what seems to be an extremely greedy attitude.

Look if they are worried about getting injured, or having the summer schedule wear them down for the NBA season then DONT PLAY.  But don't ask to be paid on top of the millions of dollars you already receive from your NBA contract and endorsements.  It is silly to compare the NBA players to a Russion basketball player who doesn't make anything comparable.  I fully understand that the olympics are hardly the clean / well shining example of amateure sports.  But NBA players don't have to make it worse.


There is undoubtedly a lot of revenue generated by team USA.  Obviously some of that has to pay for people's salaries who administer and coach the teams.  I don't know how much any of the admin or coaches make or how they distribute that pot of money, and in a way it doesn't matter to me.

Paying the athletes themselves is what I have an issue with.
None of the coaches / admin people make anywhere near the amount that the players do playing for the NBA.  Typically you have the top tier players from the NBA playing in the Olympics.  These players don't need more money, they need to think about someone other than themselves.  Comparing the admin / coaches with the players doesn't make sense.

I would think it would be a honor to play for the team.  I don't know why players who make millions of dollars a year would need a monetary incentive to play for their country.  It comes off as completely greedy and self serving.  To me it reduces the value and importance of the olympics to have multi-millionaire basketball players wanting to get paid for everything they do or touch.  It seems out of place for D Wade to even bring that up, or have anyone else support it.



I didn't know if I should start new thread for this, but I will add it here for now.

Apparently D Wade feels he should be paid to play for the US Olympic basketball team...and sounds like Ray does too.  Kind of makes me sick to my stomach.  I can understand not wanting to commit the time required, but to ask to get paid is just greedy.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7801502/nba-olympians-compensated

Before I even read the link I thought "well Team USA does sell alot of jerseys..."  Seemed to be the main point of Wade and Ray.

Also I'm sure a lot of those exhibition games bring in some cash in the form of both gate receipts and television rights.  I'm sure there's also several products that pay Team USA for licensing rights.  I'm sure Nike paid a nice amount for the privilege of outfitting the team.

While Team USA is a non-profit, somebody is getting paid.  What's Colangelo's salary as Chairman of the Board?  What does Krzyzewski get to coach?  What are other Team USA higher-ups getting paid?

If everyone else who works for Team USA is a volunteer, and they take all the money they make and help build basketball courts in poor areas, put on clinics, pay for the U16 boys and girls teams, etc., it's one thing.  If Colangelo is getting a 7 figure salary, and if Coach K is getting paid handsomely, it's another thing.







Just keep in mind that

a) many countries DO pay their athletes.  Even in the US, some of the 'amateur' athletes in some sports get compensated directly or indirectly.  That is generally up to the commission governing that particular sport.

b) The Olympic Games is a giant entertainment business that generates billions in revenues.  Many people get filthy rich off the games.  NBC forked over $4.4B for the TV rights.   Is it okay for every executive and their cousin to make a fortune off the exertions of these athletes, but not the athletes?   That sounds like exploitation.  Where is the 'honor'?

If your problem is with just already-rich NBA players wanting fair compensation for participating in the Olympic Games, would you then not have a problem if an 'amateur' college player received fair compensation for participating in the Games?  Wouldn't that seem like a bit of an arbitrary distinction?

What about a world cup skier, who already makes decent money on the WC circuit, getting paid to hold his ski, 'logo side out' when being interviewed while at the Games?

Amateur athletics is unfortunately rampant with hypocrisy and exploitation.   There isn't much left that is 'pure' and 'honorable' about it.

Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2012, 07:27:55 PM »

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No, it is about an extremely wealthy athlete being greedy.  If they are worried about getting injured or some other reason don't play. 

I didn't know if I should start new thread for this, but I will add it here for now.

Apparently D Wade feels he should be paid to play for the US Olympic basketball team...and sounds like Ray does too.  Kind of makes me sick to my stomach.  I can understand not wanting to commit the time required, but to ask to get paid is just greedy.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7801502/nba-olympians-compensated

For what reason?  As low an opinion as I have of a cheap shot artist and grandstander like Wade...  This isn't a hobby for him.  This is how they make their living.  Why risk injury for a meaningless exhibition where everybody around them....Including their opponents are being paid?  For what?  Are they making money off of the jerseys?  Anything?  

This isn't about patriotism (lol where the olympics are concerned).
This is common sense.


Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2012, 07:45:11 PM »

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Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
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He will never get credit for any Olympic team he plays on so why bother.
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Re: Rondo has no interest in EVER playing in Olympics
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2012, 06:25:41 AM »

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good. its kinda silly anyway IMO. olympics should be more for amateurs - track and fieks swimming gymanstics skiing etc. i like watching the olympics but if a celtic never plays im ok w that, rather have them rested for what we really care about - the nba season.

I agree. Olympics are a joke. Lucky to break even compared to investment.

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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2012, 12:20:59 PM »

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Well now there is this update...

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7805591/miami-heat-dwyane-wade-backs-compensation-olympics

Evidently someone in D Wade's management has tried to manage the PR mess from his previous statements.

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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2012, 01:02:54 PM »

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I've never seen a correlation between patriotism and the olympics....
I agree.

To be honest though, the best basketball players bring negligible value to the table in the Olympics since if there were no pros playing basketball, it would probably just mean that people would watch swimming or volleyball instead during that time slot.

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  I'm glad. The team's better off with him taking the summer off. In 2010 the Celts played through game 7 of the finals and he spent at least half of the short offseason with team USA. I think that's one of the main reasons that he was struggling with health issues for most of last season.


Agreed. He was “emotionally and physically exhausted” after the heartbreaking loss to the Lakers in the Finals. He then only allowed himself 2 weeks to recover before joining the USA Team tryouts. Then early on in the NBA season he’s dealing with plantar fasciitis, followed by other ailments throughout the season. His priority is the Boston Celtics, and we’re fortunate that’s the case.

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Rondo's game is ill-fitted for the Olympics.  Too much zone with defenders camped in the middle.