Rebounding Frustration at its peak

[rayallen1934]

I really cant take it anymore, when we play good defense and force a shot when the shot clock is going down, im almost 90% sure that the opposing team will get a second chance rebound.

Im losing hope in this team, and i almost never do, solely because the rebounding is just ridiculous

When Garnett is your Center, no matter how good people think it is and has been this year, its not going to work. Hes a string bean and gets butchered down low. Its not fun to watch, and honestly its very difficult to think this team has any chance.

We needed a decent big man who could pull down some defensive boards for us, unfortunately we could not find or get one and it really ticks me off.

This is as negative as im going to be and its because of frustration and not because of one game before anyone jumps on me.

[j804]

It isn't just Garnett though and that's the frustrating part it's everybody, our guards need to crash the glass as well. I know you need some guys to stay back but when it's crunch time and we need boards and to not allow second chance points I don't give a crap EVERYBODY crash the glass.

You see it with San Antonio all their guys crash the boards when shots are put up and not just their bigs. You see the opposite with us Bass, Ray, Rondo whoever are near the paint....Rondo does a little drive and kicks it to KG and what does everybody do as the ball is being put up just run right back. It's like they all assume it's going in NOBODY bothers to even stand or dang near look near the rim. I don't know if it's schemes, Doc telling guys to just get back, not getting on there ass enough for not rebounding or what but it needs to change.

[CelticSooner]

This team is just lazy when it comes rebounding the ball. No one wants to fight when the ball is in the air. They don't hustle like they used to. When's the last time we saw someone hit the floor and battle for the ball. Half of rebounding is effort and it's just not there.

[Chief]

Steamer came in, busted his butt fighting for rebounds, by himself, and then got benched for Ryan Hollins. Right before he was pulled, he snagged an offensive rebound between three defenders, got fouled on the put back, and made his two free throws. Now Steamer only got that rebound last night, but fought for many others in his 11 minutes.

So Doc goes with Hollins. Why?? The kid got almost 13 minutes and zero rebounds. He does nothing but dunk. I don't get it. So Doc can throw his team under the bus about effort but these are his rotations.

Last night Steamer comes in for KG. He has to try to rebound with Bass. Bass is a terrible rebounder. If you are playing along side that kid, you are going to be doing all the dirty work on your own. Now KG and Hollins, come in together and you got another bad rebounding combination.

Over the win streak, the best defensive and rebounding combination was KG and Steamer together. Why would Doc change this? My theory is KG went to Doc asking for his buddy to play. What a mistake.

[clover]

Yep, between Bradley and Ray, Stiemer benched for the all-PG lineup or Hollins, and then neither Dooling nor Sasha taking a shot once Ray is playing with them, IMO there are various chemistry mismanagements on Doc's part.

[lantinm]

It's time to reach down into the D-League and grab Eric Dawson.  With Garnett roughly playing 31 minutes at the 5, and Steamboat and Hollins playing the other additional 17 minutes that are left over, we don't really have anyone to back up Bass.
Bass is playing around 31-32 minutes a game, and there are minutes left over at the 4.  Dawson is a guy who could help our rebounding situation when Bass goes to the bench.  With Doc refusing to play JJJ, we really don't have many other options.

I'm still kind of shocked that Danny has done nothing with JO's roster spot.

[CelticG1]

Steamer came in, busted his butt fighting for rebounds, by himself, and then got benched for Ryan Hollins. Right before he was pulled, he snagged an offensive rebound between three defenders, got fouled on the put back, and made his two free throws. Now Steamer only got that rebound last night, but fought for many others in his 11 minutes.

So Doc goes with Hollins. Why?? The kid got almost 13 minutes and zero rebounds. He does nothing but dunk. I don't get it. So Doc can throw his team under the bus about effort but these are his rotations.

Last night Steamer comes in for KG. He has to try to rebound with Bass. Bass is a terrible rebounder. If you are playing along side that kid, you are going to be doing all the dirty work on your own. Now KG and Hollins, come in together and you got another bad rebounding combination.

Over the win streak, the best defensive and rebounding combination was KG and Steamer together. Why would Doc change this? My theory is KG went to Doc asking for his buddy to play. What a mistake.

Steamer is and was a fouling machine last night. You can't just ignore that. It's one game and Doc decided to throw Hollins in there for 13 whopping minutes to see if he could do anything.

Pretty sure the game wasn't lost because of Steamer or Hollins. Completely on the starters for thinking they could just go through the motions and win this game

[droopdog7]

The reason we don't rebound is because we don't have very good rebounders on the team.  Plain and simple.

In fact, all of our bigs are below average rebounders.  Every single one of them.  KG used to be great but he isn't anymore.   

So this should not be a shock and there isn't anything we can do about it that won't have a big effect on some other part of our game.

[CelticG1]

KG is still one of the best defensive rebounding centers in the league so you can't say anything about him really.

I still think a big part of the problem with our defensive rebounding is our guards staying in front of their men. I think they have done a little better with Bradley in the game but they still get beat too often, reach from behind and then a guy like Bass or KG has to rotate leaving his man alone under the basket for the rebound. Saw this WAY too much last night

[CelticG1]

The reason we don't rebound is because we don't have very good rebounders on the team.  Plain and simple.

In fact, all of our bigs are below average rebounders.  Every single one of them.  KG used to be great but he isn't anymore.   

So this should not be a shock and there isn't anything we can do about it that won't have a big effect on some other part of our game.

KG is still pretty close to a great defensive rebounder

[SHAQATTACK]

Hollins needs to man up in the paint on Defense. He is being a sissy .

He needs to watch video of the Robert Parrish , see how fight for postion, blockout and not take crap or abuse under the basket.

Maybe the Celtics can pay Hollins a bonus for every rebound he makes over say a min of 5 a game.   He needs to get on the stick , knock a few teeth loose , get a few Technicals , get thrown out of the game even ...got to draw a line in the sand when your 7 ft tall. ... your job is REBOUNDING...man up dude.   You can be a wooose and play in the NBA.

[pearljammer10]

We've been a terrible rebounding team for years, we are still a terrible rebounding team, and we are going to continue to be a terrible rebounding team. It has been frustrating for quite some time and will continue to be just that. This isn't a newsflash.

[Chief]

Steamer came in, busted his butt fighting for rebounds, by himself, and then got benched for Ryan Hollins. Right before he was pulled, he snagged an offensive rebound between three defenders, got fouled on the put back, and made his two free throws. Now Steamer only got that rebound last night, but fought for many others in his 11 minutes.

So Doc goes with Hollins. Why?? The kid got almost 13 minutes and zero rebounds. He does nothing but dunk. I don't get it. So Doc can throw his team under the bus about effort but these are his rotations.

Last night Steamer comes in for KG. He has to try to rebound with Bass. Bass is a terrible rebounder. If you are playing along side that kid, you are going to be doing all the dirty work on your own. Now KG and Hollins, come in together and you got another bad rebounding combination.

Over the win streak, the best defensive and rebounding combination was KG and Steamer together. Why would Doc change this? My theory is KG went to Doc asking for his buddy to play. What a mistake.

Steamer is and was a fouling machine last night. You can't just ignore that. It's one game and Doc decided to throw Hollins in there for 13 whopping minutes to see if he could do anything.

Pretty sure the game wasn't lost because of Steamer or Hollins. Completely on the starters for thinking they could just go through the motions and win this game

Who cares if Steamer fouls out? Doc should use all his fouls. He gets them because he is playing hard. Things like protecting the rim and offensive rebounding can sometimes get you a cheap foul or two.

During the win streak, Steamer averaged about 22 minutes and 5 fouls a game. The kid was playing hard. Threads, on this site, talking about him being better than Perkins. Then bam!!! Ray comes back, Doc screws with the rotations, and we lose two in a row. During the two game losing streak, Steamers averaged 9 minutes. Coincidence? Maybe. We played two tough teams. But they were no tougher than Miami where Steamer played 24 minutes,in arguably, the Celtics biggest win of the year.

[apc]

we arew not going anywhere this year without rebounding.
i hope it is on Danny's shoping list for next year.
top of the list, forget Austin Rivers.

[manl_lui]

our offense and defense is just fine. I agree with you, what's killing us is rebounds. We need these 2 rest days to work on our rebounding. Noah, Boozer and even their stupid guards are out rebounding us. We have potential to be a better rebounding team and definitely COULD be an ok rebounding team (we're ranked 30). KG needs to pull all the bigs aside after practice and work with their rebounding game

Stiesma and Hollins are 7 ft, they need to start learning how to BOX OUT