Doc rips into the team after tonight's terrible effort

[JBcat]

Slow down people.  A tough comeback game against the Spurs with the starters logging a ton of minutes, and late flight out to Chicago for a back to back game.  Chicago also had the night off before just waiting for us.  I'm not worried about the loss.

[cman88]

Like I said. Hopefully the cs rebound tomorrow night against indiana and Sunday against the 76ers..
I expect them to..

[looseball]

Slow down people.  A tough comeback game against the Spurs with the starters logging a ton of minutes, and late flight out to Chicago for a back to back game.  Chicago also had the night off before just waiting for us.  I'm not worried about the loss.

"with the starters logging a ton of minutes"  is a big reason we have so much trouble pulling games out in crunch time.

Before Ray got hurt, we were the only team in the league where all five starters were averaging over 30 mpg.  San Antonio has just one (Tony Parker, age 29).

[clover]

Doc frustration is mainly because he was out-coached last-night. Its hard to accept a loss from your ex assistant whom didn't even have his best player playing. On a positive note the team looked great having Avery start & Ray coming off the bench. Our biggest problem has still not been addressed R.E.B.O.U.N.D.I.N.G. Oh my we suck at it!

Yep.  It's got to particularly sting when Thibs is doing the out-coaching.  Some might put the Spurs loss on Doc as well: that one they were rested for.

[Chief]

Doc blames the players but plays Ryan Hollins 13 minutes. I guess he's blaming Steamer for all these problems.

"Greg, go sit down there with the rest of the rookies. Yes, son you. I don't care that you've been playing well, you are a rookie. Just watch, Hollins is going to play more minutes than you tonight and vs Indiana, I'm going to play small ball again".

[JohnBagleyValueMeal]

As a coach, I think it makes perfect sense for Doc to respond like this. This is a strategic move, because the Celtics only chance to be dangerous in the postseason is to be mentally tough and more committed than their opponent. Doc isn't a dummy, he knows this is his best move, and I'd bet that the team responds.

As a fan, I was annoyed by last night's game but I'm not really angry with the team. Chicago is the best regular season team in the East, they're well coached, they're deep, athletic, very tough on D and they have both talent and size on offense. They were playing at home. This is what they do.

I have to laugh when I see posters say things like "they'd be a top team in the league with more effort" or "if doc would have played X instead of Z we'd be fine".  Come on now. This Celtics team wasn't championship level even before all the injuries. They're not championship level now. They're a very good team that I'm happy to watch because I enjoy watching these players compete together. But they're not at the level of the Bulls or the Heat or OKC. They can compete against them, but they're not contenders anymore.

The players can't think that way, Doc can't think that way, but as a fan if this team 'makes you sick' because they're not championship level, that's on you, not on them.

[Bankshot]

Doc blames the players but plays Ryan Hollins 13 minutes. I guess he's blaming Steamer for all these problems.

"Greg, go sit down there with the rest of the rookies. Yes, son you. I don't care that you've been playing well, you are a rookie. Just watch, Hollins is going to play more minutes than you tonight and vs Indiana, I'm going to play small ball again".

Yep.  What was that about?  Doc has the habit of going away from what was working, especially in big games.  Remember game 7 against the Lakers he went away from how he coached and what players he had played the whole series up to game 7.

[slamtheking]

blah blah blah.

Doc can "rip" this team all he wants but at most it'll get them to play a little harder in the next game -- if that much.

This is a team of vets that just tunes him out.  Been that way for 3 years now.  The last time this team showed commitment to winning games night in and night out was the 2009 season. 

[green7]

half of it is his fault lol, this team does not rebound without that there's no way you can expect a win against a elite.

[Assassin70]

As a coach, I think it makes perfect sense for Doc to respond like this. This is a strategic move, because the Celtics only chance to be dangerous in the postseason is to be mentally tough and more committed than their opponent. Doc isn't a dummy, he knows this is his best move, and I'd bet that the team responds.

As a fan, I was annoyed by last night's game but I'm not really angry with the team. Chicago is the best regular season team in the East, they're well coached, they're deep, athletic, very tough on D and they have both talent and size on offense. They were playing at home. This is what they do.

I have to laugh when I see posters say things like "they'd be a top team in the league with more effort" or "if doc would have played X instead of Z we'd be fine".  Come on now. This Celtics team wasn't championship level even before all the injuries. They're not championship level now. They're a very good team that I'm happy to watch because I enjoy watching these players compete together. But they're not at the level of the Bulls or the Heat or OKC. They can compete against them, but they're not contenders anymore.

The players can't think that way, Doc can't think that way, but as a fan if this team 'makes you sick' because they're not championship level, that's on you, not on them.

I agree somewhat but my opinion is if this Celtics team can show mental toughness and execute they are contenders.  Long shots even if they hit on all their capable cylinders yes...but there is still a shot.

With all that said the Bulls are the WORST matchup for the C's come playoff time.  We need to do whatever we can not to play them.  We have to hope someone else knocks the Bulls out for us, because I don't see us winning a 7 game series against them.

I would rather play the Heat.  While of course on paper the Heat should blow us out too.  But with all the talent the Heat have they don't have it all upstairs yet.  While they beat the Boogeymen last year they still have some fear of us.

P.S. realistically though JohnBagleyValueMeal is 100% correct.  We really are not contenders...if this team does not step it up in the rebounding department come playoff time they might as well not even show up. It will be an early exit no matter the opponent.  And Doc is not on the court so you can't blame him for players not crashing the boards or boxing out.

[looseball]

half of it is his fault lol, this team does not rebound without that there's no way you can expect a win against a elite.

Offensive rebounding is mostly aggressiveness.
Defensive rebounding requires blocking out, which is fundamentals, which requires good coaching.

[BballTim]

Doc blames the players but plays Ryan Hollins 13 minutes. I guess he's blaming Steamer for all these problems.

"Greg, go sit down there with the rest of the rookies. Yes, son you. I don't care that you've been playing well, you are a rookie. Just watch, Hollins is going to play more minutes than you tonight and vs Indiana, I'm going to play small ball again".

  Didn't Steamer get 3 fouls in his first 4 minutes or so?

[Marcus13]

Everyone sucked.  Everyone.  He needs to get this team riled up; and he knows the guys hate it when he says they weren't tough enough.

[SHAQATTACK]

It was a tuff game to follow the Spurs effort. I think we can teach Steamer and Hollins to help with the slower big men we face. SOme of it is just ability.  The Bulls have all those young long Athletic guys , that are a difficult match up .  Deng and Long haired Ugly boy play like they have jumping beans in their pants and run the court hard every play and crash the boards on every play.  Thats youth , they won't being doing that when they are 37 years old.

Getting ruff , agressive in the paint is what the NBA is all about. Hollins needs to get a mean streak ( check out Perks face)  and put a game face on. 

Steam Boat has some Bill Lambeer like skills.  He needs to watch some old Pistons video or old Dave Cowans and learn how to "GET" an advantage over "jumping bean" type players.

Just got to get mean inside and not worry about being friends with other team ...

KG needs to remind our big fellows the opponent is the ENEMY>

[LB3533]

After shooting 54% from the field over the last 2 months, KG has shot 12-35 over the last 2 games.

And we were still in striking distance for the win.

In a 7 game series, this team can compete and win against any team in the league.