If Cs traded up to get a big

[CFAN38]

Lets assume the Celtic's picks end up 20 and 21

Then Danny shops a package of 20 + 21 + JJJ for a pick in the 12-15 range. If the following bigs slip to this range who would you take and why. (they are listed in the order of who I would want first)

Jared Sullinger
Tyler Zeller
John Henson
Meyers Leonard
Perry Jones
Terrance Jones

[jacksmedulaoblongata]

Henson, he's aggressive offensively with a lot of room to grow. Defensively, he's a good shot blocker and help defender, and he's  a good rebounder.  The other guys I would probably put in this order

Zeller
P.Jones
Leonard
T.Jones
Sullinger

For the record I wouldn't be looking to trade up in this draft.

[Marcus13]

Sullinger - Watched that final four game...gee he got owned. Didnt look very impressive there.  Maybe he'll go Joakim Noah style - drop a bit, and turn into a solid pro.  Still, this is a guy who was surefire #1 pick last season...

As a somewhat Illinois fan (I live here) - I certainly dont see a future for Meyers Leonard in the NBA.

Zeller...plays zero defense.  Zero.  UNC lost that Duke game on Austin Rivers' buzzer three-ball because Zeller didn't even bother to raise a hand...he's just soft

Henson - is ready to step in and contribute immediately.  I would be ecstatic with this.

Perry Jones - has very high potential.  I haven't seen enough to decide weather he will reach his ceiling or if he'll be Andray Blatche (which isn't TERRIBLE)

Terrance Jones - haven't seen a lot of him.  Seems to be a little undersized, not overly athletic, ...I'd really be interested in knowing what kind of rebounder he is.

Overall, you can't expect to necessarily find a 5 star prospect in the 12-15 range but John Henson would be my first choice - he's sold me.

[Celtics18]

I would be all for packaging our two late first round picks to move up, but I wouldn't throw in Johnson.

[CFAN38]

My worry with henson is that much like JJJ he will struggle with his lack of weight. I think ultimately JJJ will transition to more of a 4/3. Henson doesn't seem to me to move well enough laterally to play this way and will have to continue to gain alot of weight. I will be interested to see what he weighs at the combine.

[Moranis]

Perry Jones has the most high end upside, but he also has the most low end.  I'd probably take him, though I don't Boston should be packaging the picks for anyone in the 12-15 range, especially if they are 20 & 21 where two very good players will still be on the board.  If anything I'd rather move back with one and pick up something else and get a guy like Fab Melo.

[byennie]

I would gladly trade both picks for either Sullinger or Jones (Perry). The other guys on the list, not so much. They both have their risks, but top-5 talent. At this point I think Sullinger is becoming underrated. He can score AND rebound. Not every big man has to be Blake Griffin and this whole "can't score over length" thing is out of control. I don't think it's clear that Barnes, Beal, Robinson, Drummond or even Gilchrist will be better. Those guys all have flaws as well - Barnes has yet to live up to his billing, Beal is a shooter who didn't shoot at times, Drummond is ALL upside, Gilchrist has a little Battier in him (i.e. motor is #1 skill), Robinson struggled at times in the tournament but nobody said a peep about it. I'd be psyched to draft any of them, but point being if Sullinger drops out of that group I'd want to swoop in.

Perry Jones would worry me, but again I think you're talking about a guy who could fall short of his potential and STILL be much better than anyone picked after 20. What I do like about him... he would look fantastic running the break with Rondo and Bradley. Those 3 would be unstoppable in the open court. Someone's going to roll the dice on him though, I bet inside of the top 10.

There are hardly any guarantees in the draft, and certainly none past top-10, so if we could get either of those guys, we should roll the dice. Talent trumps in the NBA.

[slamtheking]

Lets assume the Celtic's picks end up 20 and 21

Then Danny shops a package of 20 + 21 + JJJ for a pick in the 12-15 range. If the following bigs slip to this range who would you take and why. (they are listed in the order of who I would want first)
Jared Sullinger
Tyler Zeller
John Henson
Meyers Leonard
Perry Jones
Terrance Jones

I'm not a fan of moving 2 picks in this draft to move up unless it's way up--over 8 spots from the highest pick.  We can get 2 players that could be very solid rotation players for us in the future instead of 1.  I don't see that much superior talent in the 12-15 range that are worth the 2 players you'd get at 20 and 21 (using your estimated positions). 

Also, I don't move JJJ in a draft deal unless it gets us in the top 6-7.  JJJ looks like he'll be a player.  Again, with rebuilding the team coming up very soon, I'm reluctant to move a multiple good pieces to get less good pieces.  To get (potentially) great pieces, ok let's talk, but not just for other 'good' pieces which is what you'll find at 12-15.

[Lucky17]

Lets assume the Celtic's picks end up 20 and 21

Then Danny shops a package of 20 + 21 + JJJ for a pick in the 12-15 range. If the following bigs slip to this range who would you take and why. (they are listed in the order of who I would want first)
Jared Sullinger
Tyler Zeller
John Henson
Meyers Leonard
Perry Jones
Terrance Jones

I'm not a fan of moving 2 picks in this draft to move up unless it's way up--over 8 spots from the highest pick.  We can get 2 players that could be very solid rotation players for us in the future instead of 1.  I don't see that much superior talent in the 12-15 range that are worth the 2 players you'd get at 20 and 21 (using your estimated positions). 

Also, I don't move JJJ in a draft deal unless it gets us in the top 6-7.  JJJ looks like he'll be a player.  Again, with rebuilding the team coming up very soon, I'm reluctant to move a multiple good pieces to get less good pieces.  To get (potentially) great pieces, ok let's talk, but not just for other 'good' pieces which is what you'll find at 12-15.

Co-sign.

The only way I'd be on board with trading both picks and JJJ is for a young player who's been in the league a couple years and has demonstrated promise of becoming a legit starter.

[jr_3421]

I really think Henson would be a good pick if he fell a little bit. I know he we doesn't have the frame or the strength but unlike JJJ he is able to guard perimeter players with his length and surprising lateral quickness. I think he is the best pick and roll defender in the draft and along with his length possesses great shot blocking instincts. He is also very good in transition. I think if we can somehow get another big through free agency or the draft (or Chris Wilcox), it would be worth it to take a chance on him.

[Eddie20]

My worry with henson is that much like JJJ he will struggle with his lack of weight. I think ultimately JJJ will transition to more of a 4/3. Henson doesn't seem to me to move well enough laterally to play this way and will have to continue to gain alot of weight. I will be interested to see what he weighs at the combine.

What's the difference between Henson and Anthony Randolph? Except that Randolph will likely be able to be had cheaply through FA. Randolph is only 1 year older and, like Henson, seems to be a good fit to play with Rondo.

[erisred]

Lets assume the Celtic's picks end up 20 and 21

Then Danny shops a package of 20 + 21 + JJJ for a pick in the 12-15 range. If the following bigs slip to this range who would you take and why. (they are listed in the order of who I would want first)

Well, from what I've seen of them I would say...

Jared Sullinger  -- no, short, limited, bust waiting to happen
Tyler Zeller    -- maybe, as a PF though, not ever going to be strong enough to play center
John Henson   -- yes, but I think he'd just be a JJ replacement
Meyers Leonard  --  don't know, as I never followed his game
Perry Jones  -- NO, PJ3 is just plain soft! He will never reach his potential
Terrance Jones -- YES, I think he's going to be everything Jeff Green was supposed to be. However, I'm not sure I'd call him a "big" as I think he'll end up more a 3 than a 4.

[pearljammer10]

Lets assume the Celtic's picks end up 20 and 21

Then Danny shops a package of 20 + 21 + JJJ for a pick in the 12-15 range. If the following bigs slip to this range who would you take and why. (they are listed in the order of who I would want first)

Jared Sullinger
Tyler Zeller
John Henson
Meyers Leonard
Perry Jones
Terrance Jones

Im not so sure I would do a 3 for 1 just to move up 6 to 8 spots in the draft.

[Geo123]

Sullinger - Watched that final four game...gee he got owned. Didnt look very impressive there.  Maybe he'll go Joakim Noah style - drop a bit, and turn into a solid pro.  Still, this is a guy who was surefire #1 pick last season...

As a somewhat Illinois fan (I live here) - I certainly dont see a future for Meyers Leonard in the NBA.Zeller...plays zero defense.  Zero.  UNC lost that Duke game on Austin Rivers' buzzer three-ball because Zeller didn't even bother to raise a hand...he's just soft

Henson - is ready to step in and contribute immediately.  I would be ecstatic with this.

Perry Jones - has very high potential.  I haven't seen enough to decide weather he will reach his ceiling or if he'll be Andray Blatche (which isn't TERRIBLE)

Terrance Jones - haven't seen a lot of him.  Seems to be a little undersized, not overly athletic, ...I'd really be interested in knowing what kind of rebounder he is.

Overall, you can't expect to necessarily find a 5 star prospect in the 12-15 range but John Henson would be my first choice - he's sold me.

As a big ILLINI fan who's seen him play numeorus times I disagree totally.  He runs the floor extremly well, blocks shots very well and does a good job rebounding.  He really isn't a great scorer but has range out to 12-15 feet with a good jum hook.  He's a true 7" or 7"1'.  He's got the body to add weight and showed tremendous improvement from his Freshman to Sophmore years.   What he lacks his maturity.  He pouted when he didn't get the ball which was often.   The ILLINI had no point guards and it hurt him big time.

Perry and Henson are not true big men at least right now.  They are more like JJ.  Sullinger was disappointing this year and didn't dominate.  He had trouble against players bigger than him also.  

Zeller will be a good backup but nothing special and Jones was way too inconsistant...    

[alajet]

My worry with henson is that much like JJJ he will struggle with his lack of weight. I think ultimately JJJ will transition to more of a 4/3. Henson doesn't seem to me to move well enough laterally to play this way and will have to continue to gain alot of weight. I will be interested to see what he weighs at the combine.

What's the difference between Henson and Anthony Randolph? Except that Randolph will likely be able to be had cheaply through FA. Randolph is only 1 year older and, like Henson, seems to be a good fit to play with Rondo.

Well, if we're able to get him, this would be a good steal for us. Anthony Randolph has tons of upside for his game and the reason he didn't quite blossom is probably the always-changing rotations he has played for. He just hasn't settled down yet. But I have hopes for him, he's too young to be given upon.