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Re: por/LAL/Min 3 way trade in the works , Crawford to Min ,Beasley to LAL
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2012, 05:34:11 PM »

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To play devil's advocate, I kinda hate Nate McMillan as a coach for the Blazers. He's loosened the reigns a little this year, but not nearly enough in my opinion. This team is dying to run.

Too bad the Knicks let D'Antoni go, could've orchestrated the rare coach-trade. Makes a lot of sense for both sides.
D'Antoni would be a very interesting fit in Portland.

C - Aldridge, Camby
PF - G.Wallace, (?)
SF - Batum, (Matthews)
SG - Matthews, Crawford
PG - Felton, (?)

Re: por/LAL/Min 3 way trade in the works , Crawford to Min ,Beasley to LAL
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2012, 05:34:54 PM »

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Crawford's agent says deal is almost done.

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Re: por/LAL/Min 3 way trade in the works , Crawford to Min ,Beasley to LAL
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2012, 05:37:02 PM »

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Beasley would be a great piece moving forward.
Sad that Danny didnt try harder.


We don't know how hard DA tried.  But he's not really a great piece at all.  If he was he wouldn't possibly be going to his  3rd team in 3 years....

Re: por/LAL/Min 3 way trade in the works , Crawford to Min ,Beasley to LAL
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2012, 05:37:47 PM »

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Have I lost my mind? Are people really bummed that the Lakers are in the verge of acquiring Michael Beasely, a player who will only limit the significant advantage they should have in their front court even more? Do people think THAT is going to improve locker morale? Metta World Peace is going to be psyched about being further demoted? They're better off acquiring a ball stopping SF than upgrading their PG position? That's what people are bummed about?

If you're a Laker hater this should be like Christmas.
I think Beasley is (1) a very nice get for LA if they use him exclusively as a PF alongside either Pau or Bynum at center (2) a disaster if they use him exclusively at SF (3) if a combo forward, it would depend on the minutes split between the two positions.

So not necessary a good or bad acquisition until we know how they will use Beasley. It could go either way.

Re: por/LAL/Min 3 way trade in the works , Crawford to Min ,Beasley to LAL
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2012, 05:38:33 PM »

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To play devil's advocate, I kinda hate Nate McMillan as a coach for the Blazers. He's loosened the reigns a little this year, but not nearly enough in my opinion. This team is dying to run.

Too bad the Knicks let D'Antoni go, could've orchestrated the rare coach-trade. Makes a lot of sense for both sides.
D'Antoni would be a very interesting fit in Portland.

C - Aldridge, Camby
PF - G.Wallace, (?)
SF - Batum, (Matthews)
SG - Matthews, Crawford
PG - Felton, (?)

McMillan's emphasis on offensive and defensive discipline would be a perfect fit for the Knicks as well.

Re: por/LAL/Min 3 way trade in the works , Crawford to Min ,Beasley to LAL
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2012, 05:44:19 PM »

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This still doesn't solve LA's glaring weakness which is for a PG.  They have to have another move up their sleeve or they woudn't have traded Blake..

Re: por/LAL/Min 3 way trade in the works , Crawford to Min ,Beasley to LAL
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2012, 05:48:29 PM »

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To play devil's advocate, I kinda hate Nate McMillan as a coach for the Blazers. He's loosened the reigns a little this year, but not nearly enough in my opinion. This team is dying to run.

Too bad the Knicks let D'Antoni go, could've orchestrated the rare coach-trade. Makes a lot of sense for both sides.
D'Antoni would be a very interesting fit in Portland.

C - Aldridge, Camby
PF - G.Wallace, (?)
SF - Batum, (Matthews)
SG - Matthews, Crawford
PG - Felton, (?)

McMillan's emphasis on offensive and defensive discipline would be a perfect fit for the Knicks as well.
Yeah, great fit for NYC.

I love Nate McMillan. Terrific coach. He has worked miracles in Portland for the last few years.

Re: por/LAL/Min 3 way trade in the works , Crawford to Min ,Beasley to LAL
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2012, 05:50:27 PM »

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To play devil's advocate, I kinda hate Nate McMillan as a coach for the Blazers. He's loosened the reigns a little this year, but not nearly enough in my opinion. This team is dying to run.

Too bad the Knicks let D'Antoni go, could've orchestrated the rare coach-trade. Makes a lot of sense for both sides.
D'Antoni would be a very interesting fit in Portland.

C - Aldridge, Camby
PF - G.Wallace, (?)
SF - Batum, (Matthews)
SG - Matthews, Crawford
PG - Felton, (?)

McMillan's emphasis on offensive and defensive discipline would be a perfect fit for the Knicks as well.
Yeah, great fit for NYC.

I love Nate McMillan. Terrific coach. He has worked miracles in Portland for the last few years.
nate mcmillan great coach

not sure about kobe and beasley together with only one ball to shoot
or kobe might be just the guy to kick beasley into playing better or the team could implode in an explosion of yellow and purple!

Re: por/LAL/Min 3 way trade in the works , Crawford to Min ,Beasley to LAL
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2012, 05:51:36 PM »

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Have I lost my mind? Are people really bummed that the Lakers are in the verge of acquiring Michael Beasely, a player who will only limit the significant advantage they should have in their front court even more? Do people think THAT is going to improve locker morale? Metta World Peace is going to be psyched about being further demoted? They're better off acquiring a ball stopping SF than upgrading their PG position? That's what people are bummed about?

If you're a Laker hater this should be like Christmas.
I think Beasley is (1) a very nice get for LA if they use him exclusively as a PF alongside either Pau or Bynum at center (2) a disaster if they use him exclusively at SF (3) if a combo forward, it would depend on the minutes split between the two positions.

So not necessary a good or bad acquisition until we know how they will use Beasley. It could go either way.

Ya, I kind of forgot about him at the 4. I'd imagine this is what you're looking outside the 3 and the 4

Fisher (30) / Morris (18)
Bryant (35) / Barnes (13)
Artest (25) /
Gasol (22) /
Bynum (35) / Gasol (13)

That's 23 minutes at the 3 (Kapono, more minutes for Barnes, Walton), and 26 at the 4 (McRoberts, Murphy, Beasely).

Still, I stand by what I've said earlier, I just don't see a lineup he meshes with. You're going to have too many ball stoppers for this offense to work the way it should. 

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« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2012, 05:53:18 PM »

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Have I lost my mind? Are people really bummed that the Lakers are in the verge of acquiring Michael Beasely, a player who will only limit the significant advantage they should have in their front court even more? Do people think THAT is going to improve locker morale? Metta World Peace is going to be psyched about being further demoted? They're better off acquiring a ball stopping SF than upgrading their PG position? That's what people are bummed about?

If you're a Laker hater this should be like Christmas.

I think the Lakers really need a mobile, perimeter oriented PF like Beasley. Odom was the de facto PF for that team and he wasn't replaced. Gasol and Bynum with their current backups makes the Lakers too vulnerable to some teams and too predictable offensively. Gasol and Bynum is a great combo only as long as you have a 3rd leg in the form of a mobile PF - and someone you can trust to play 30mpg if necessary.

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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2012, 05:55:11 PM »

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Have I lost my mind? Are people really bummed that the Lakers are in the verge of acquiring Michael Beasely, a player who will only limit the significant advantage they should have in their front court even more? Do people think THAT is going to improve locker morale? Metta World Peace is going to be psyched about being further demoted? They're better off acquiring a ball stopping SF than upgrading their PG position? That's what people are bummed about?

If you're a Laker hater this should be like Christmas.

No. This is just the Lakers dumping a bum to get a better player. Just the Lakers again being beneficiaries of another one sided trade.

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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2012, 05:59:01 PM »

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To play devil's advocate, I kinda hate Nate McMillan as a coach for the Blazers. He's loosened the reigns a little this year, but not nearly enough in my opinion. This team is dying to run.

Too bad the Knicks let D'Antoni go, could've orchestrated the rare coach-trade. Makes a lot of sense for both sides.
D'Antoni would be a very interesting fit in Portland.

C - Aldridge, Camby
PF - G.Wallace, (?)
SF - Batum, (Matthews)
SG - Matthews, Crawford
PG - Felton, (?)

McMillan's emphasis on offensive and defensive discipline would be a perfect fit for the Knicks as well.
Yeah, great fit for NYC.

I love Nate McMillan. Terrific coach. He has worked miracles in Portland for the last few years.

See, I kinda disagree here. I think he's a good coach, but he can get in his own way. Despite the injuries, I've thought the Blazers still had a really talented roster that he didn't capitalize on. So, I just don't see it as him 'performing miracles.' I see it similar to D'Antoni, he coaches one way, the revolving door of GM's over the years are acquiring players that are meant to play another way.

Have I lost my mind? Are people really bummed that the Lakers are in the verge of acquiring Michael Beasely, a player who will only limit the significant advantage they should have in their front court even more? Do people think THAT is going to improve locker morale? Metta World Peace is going to be psyched about being further demoted? They're better off acquiring a ball stopping SF than upgrading their PG position? That's what people are bummed about?

If you're a Laker hater this should be like Christmas.

I think the Lakers really need a mobile, perimeter oriented PF like Beasley. Odom was the de facto PF for that team and he wasn't replaced. Gasol and Bynum with their current backups makes the Lakers too vulnerable to some teams and too predictable offensively. Gasol and Bynum is a great combo only as long as you have a 3rd leg in the form of a mobile PF - and someone you can trust to play 30mpg if necessary.

But what made Odom so good is that he's a swiss army knife offensively. He did what was needed of him. Beasely's a one dimensional player who's adding a skill that the Lakers really don't need. There's no lack of players who should be able to put the ball in the hole in Los Angeles, there's a lack of players who are going to allow other guys to do that.

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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2012, 06:05:35 PM »

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But what made Odom so good is that he's a swiss army knife offensively. He did what was needed of him. Beasely's a one dimensional player who's adding a skill that the Lakers really don't need. There's no lack of players who should be able to put the ball in the hole in Los Angeles, there's a lack of players who are going to allow other guys to do that.


I disagree. I think the Lakers biggest problem offensively is that they shrink the floor too much. Lack of shooters and cutters - the Lakers have 2 players with a 3pt% above 35% and they are fringe rotational players (Murphy and Goudelock). This is why Troy Murphy has been playing and basically kicked McRoberts out of the rotation. Beasley will open the floor allowing Kobe + Gasol/Bynum (whoever off the two is on the floor with him) to play the post more effectively. He can also provide the Lakers some creation off the dribble from the perimeter - another thing they sorely miss - versus slower PFs. Finally, he'll help their transition game both ways - and transition is the other of the Lakers weakest points. 

Odom was better than Beasley because he could defend and rebound at a higher level, but beggars can't be choosers I guess.

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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2012, 06:06:04 PM »

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No. This is just the Lakers dumping a bum to get a better player. Just the Lakers again being beneficiaries of another one sided trade.

No, this is the Lakers desperately picking a bad player in the hopes that he will develop because he is young. Beasley is not very good.

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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2012, 06:13:04 PM »

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No. This is just the Lakers dumping a bum to get a better player. Just the Lakers again being beneficiaries of another one sided trade.

No, this is the Lakers desperately picking a bad player in the hopes that he will develop because he is young. Beasley is not very good.

He's better than Steve Blake. He may not be a legit starter on a contender. He can help sure up their bench and provide some scoring when needed though. This makes more sense for a team like the Lakers than it does most other teams.