Is Lin a better all around player than Melo ?

[rondohondo]

I honestly think he is a better player than Melo. Yes Melo is a superior one on one player, but Lin makes everyone else better IMO. He needs to have the ball in his hands.

[bostonpatriot]

No and it's not close.

And even if he were more versatile - I don't think he is - that wouldn't imply he's better. Chris Webber was never better than Shaq.

[BASS_THUMPER]

gerald green is better than lin

[thestackshow]

Not sure if serious...

Is Big Baby better then Kevin Garnett? I mean Baby had about 10 good games in the playoffs, sort of like Lins 10 good games.

[pearljammer10]

Wow. This shouldnt even be a coherent question, thats absurd.

[Greenbean]

This question is not really relevant but I will say this:

It doesnt look good on Melo right now. His teams are playing better when he isnt playing.

The guy is an amazing talent but he seems like he has gotten "comfortable" with his game for the last 2-3 years.

He is still dangerous as ever and I hate to see him with the ball in Crunchtime as a C's fan...he just hasnt gotten better in so long.

[LarBrd33]

No.  Raymond Felton was better than Lin in NYC.  Lin < Felton < Melo.

[SHAQATTACK]

Melo has no concept of team play , watched him in college , same thing, but in the NBA this doesn't work.

Melo has every physical gift any NBA player could want.  Just missing , the team FIRST concept / Mello second.

I feel until someone convinces him different he is liabilitiy for most WELL COACHED teams with good ball movement and a REAL defense .

Until he changes his game , I'll take Lin over Melo on my NBA team.

Kobe is the only truely suscessful ball hog. And Kobe does TRY to involve his teammates and play defense

[dtrader]

No.  Raymond Felton was better than Lin in NYC.  Lin < Felton < Melo.

I'm not really sure what including Felton says about this.  When Felton was in NY he was talked about as a potential all star, and Lin has been playing even better than that. 

Add in the fact that Lin seems to make everyone else on that team play better (Chandler, Novak, Shumpert, Amare), plays better defense at his position than Melo, and appears to be a more capable floor general (if not leader), and I think this is a reasonable question.

Is Lin a better, more dominant, or more skilled player than Melo?...No.  Melos offensive capabilities far outweigh what Lin brings to the table in a strict player to player comparison.  But when you talk about comparing them as "all around players", you have to include their defense, leadership, and team impact...Those 3 things level the playing field for Lin, and make this a tough question IMO.

[RJ87]

No.

Its sad that Melo is going to get so much flak for the NYK debacle, some of it is justified but the majority of it isn't. Melo isn't a selfish player, he was successful with Chauncey Billups in Denver. The issue with NYK is that the fit is HORRIBLE. Melo and Amar'e are not complementary players. D'Antoni's system isn't built for the type skillset Melo has. Their fascination with trading for him had very little to do with basketball and more to do with marketing. They whiffed on LBJ and need to get something in order to justify purging their roster the past few years to land LBJ.

Lin is a nice player, but color me skeptical about how much longer he can keep this up. Until he actually proves himself longterm, the idea that he's better than Melo is completely unfounded. Let me ask you this: game 7 of the playoffs with the game on the line, who are you giving the ball to? Jeremy Lin or Carmelo Anthony?

[rondohondo]

No.

Its sad that Melo is going to get so much flak for the NYK debacle, some of it is justified but the majority of it isn't. Melo isn't a selfish player, he was successful with Chauncey Billups in Denver. The issue with NYK is that the fit is HORRIBLE. Melo and Amar'e are not complementary players. D'Antoni's system isn't built for the type skillset Melo has. Their fascination with trading for him had very little to do with basketball and more to do with marketing. They whiffed on LBJ and need to get something in order to justify purging their roster the past few years to land LBJ.

Lin is a nice player, but color me skeptical about how much longer he can keep this up. Until he actually proves himself longterm, the idea that he's better than Melo is completely unfounded. Let me ask you this: game 7 of the playoffs with the game on the line, who are you giving the ball to? Jeremy Lin or Carmelo Anthony?

In game 7 with the game on the line , who are you giving the ball to PP or Rondo?

Doesn't make PP the better overall player, just better in one on one situations...

[dtrader]

No.

Its sad that Melo is going to get so much flak for the NYK debacle, some of it is justified but the majority of it isn't. Melo isn't a selfish player, he was successful with Chauncey Billups in Denver. The issue with NYK is that the fit is HORRIBLE. Melo and Amar'e are not complementary players. D'Antoni's system isn't built for the type skillset Melo has. Their fascination with trading for him had very little to do with basketball and more to do with marketing. They whiffed on LBJ and need to get something in order to justify purging their roster the past few years to land LBJ.

Lin is a nice player, but color me skeptical about how much longer he can keep this up. Until he actually proves himself longterm, the idea that he's better than Melo is completely unfounded. Let me ask you this: game 7 of the playoffs with the game on the line, who are you giving the ball to? Jeremy Lin or Carmelo Anthony?

who you're "giving the ball to" is only relevant to offense, so I dont think it says anything about who your teams best "all around player" is.  A player that was completely incapable on defense, and a black hole on offense (but a scoring machine), might get the ball with the game on the line, but have 4 or 5 better "all around players" on his team.

Regardless of how long he's been playing well, or how soon (if at all) he starts to fall back, that wont change the answer to "who is the better all around player RIGHT NOW?"  

[j804]

I love it Ray driving to the hoop and posting up

Edit: wrong thread rofl

[mqtcelticsfan]

Is this a serious thread?

[RJ87]

No.

Its sad that Melo is going to get so much flak for the NYK debacle, some of it is justified but the majority of it isn't. Melo isn't a selfish player, he was successful with Chauncey Billups in Denver. The issue with NYK is that the fit is HORRIBLE. Melo and Amar'e are not complementary players. D'Antoni's system isn't built for the type skillset Melo has. Their fascination with trading for him had very little to do with basketball and more to do with marketing. They whiffed on LBJ and need to get something in order to justify purging their roster the past few years to land LBJ.

Lin is a nice player, but color me skeptical about how much longer he can keep this up. Until he actually proves himself longterm, the idea that he's better than Melo is completely unfounded. Let me ask you this: game 7 of the playoffs with the game on the line, who are you giving the ball to? Jeremy Lin or Carmelo Anthony?

who you're "giving the ball to" is only relevant to offense, so I dont think it says anything about who your teams best "all around player" is.  A player that was completely incapable on defense, and a black hole on offense (but a scoring machine), might get the ball with the game on the line, but have 4 or 5 better "all around players" on his team.

Regardless of how long he's been playing well, or how soon (if at all) he starts to fall back, that wont change the answer to "who is the better all around player RIGHT NOW?"  

Who is the better all around player RIGHT NOW? Carmelo Anthony. Melo is a better scorer and a better rebounder. Lin may be a better assist man, but Melo turns it over at a lower clip. Neither player is exactly a lockdown defender so that's a wash. The Nuggets managed make the playoffs several times with Melo as their best player. Really, what has Lin done to warrant all the hype he's getting? Not much. All of the Linsanity seems quite premature to me.