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Re: Warriors/Hornets/Magic (Trade Rumor)
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2012, 05:14:50 PM »

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OK, here's a fun hypothetical.  Would they trade Lee for Bogut?  Milwaukee might take that, just because they probably won't get anything better for Bogut with his injury history.

For the Warriors, they can let Bogut sit out the rest of the year so they can fully tank, and then hope he can regain some level of health over the summer.

If Bogut can get healthy at all, a core of Curry, Bogut, Thompson, Anderson, and their lottery pick (and I think they would still have a decent amount of cap room to throw some money at maybe another guy) is at least intriguing, if not incredibly fragile.

Re: Warriors/Hornets/Magic (Trade Rumor)
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2012, 05:17:13 PM »

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OK, here's a fun hypothetical.  Would they trade Lee for Bogut?  Milwaukee might take that, just because they probably won't get anything better for Bogut with his injury history.

For the Warriors, they can let Bogut sit out the rest of the year so they can fully tank, and then hope he can regain some level of health over the summer.

If Bogut can get healthy at all, a core of Curry, Bogut, Thompson, Anderson, and their lottery pick (and I think they would still have a decent amount of cap room to throw some money at maybe another guy) is at least intriguing, if not incredibly fragile.

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Re: Warriors/Hornets/Magic (Trade Rumor)
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2012, 05:19:20 PM »

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OK, here's a fun hypothetical.  Would they trade Lee for Bogut?  Milwaukee might take that, just because they probably won't get anything better for Bogut with his injury history.

For the Warriors, they can let Bogut sit out the rest of the year so they can fully tank, and then hope he can regain some level of health over the summer.

If Bogut can get healthy at all, a core of Curry, Bogut, Thompson, Anderson, and their lottery pick (and I think they would still have a decent amount of cap room to throw some money at maybe another guy) is at least intriguing, if not incredibly fragile.

If I'm Milwaukee, I'm not taking on David Lee's contract because he's not worth the ROI for them at this point.

For Golden State, absolutely. I think the gamble on Bogut is worth it for them, especially since the cost is getting rid of Lee's contract - who is a nice player, but not someone non-playoff teams should be paying.

Re: Warriors/Hornets/Magic (Trade Rumor)
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2012, 05:41:43 PM »

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Ryan Anderson is the best player in the deal, but he is a restricted free agent.  I don't want him to be traded to Golden State because they seem more likely than Orlando to match the $10-12m/year that I would like to see Ainge throw at Anderson.
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Re: Warriors/Hornets/Magic (Trade Rumor)
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2012, 05:46:59 PM »

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Ryan Anderson is the best player in the deal, but he is a restricted free agent.  I don't want him to be traded to Golden State because they seem more likely than Orlando to match the $10-12m/year that I would like to see Ainge throw at Anderson.

I'm sure others will disagree, but I'd take Monta Ellis over Ryan Anderson 100 times out of 100.

Re: Warriors/Hornets/Magic (Trade Rumor)
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2012, 05:59:35 PM »

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Ryan Anderson is the best player in the deal, but he is a restricted free agent.  I don't want him to be traded to Golden State because they seem more likely than Orlando to match the $10-12m/year that I would like to see Ainge throw at Anderson.

I'm sure others will disagree, but I'd take Monta Ellis over Ryan Anderson 100 times out of 100.

That's the kind of thinking that makes people believe that the Carmelo Anthony trade was a good one for the Knicks.
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Re: Warriors/Hornets/Magic (Trade Rumor)
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2012, 06:08:01 PM »

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Ryan Anderson is the best player in the deal, but he is a restricted free agent.  I don't want him to be traded to Golden State because they seem more likely than Orlando to match the $10-12m/year that I would like to see Ainge throw at Anderson.

I'm sure others will disagree, but I'd take Monta Ellis over Ryan Anderson 100 times out of 100.

That's the kind of thinking that makes people believe that the Carmelo Anthony trade was a good one for the Knicks.

I understand the sentiment, but that's really not an applicable comparison.

Ellis certainly has his flaws, but I like his ability to score, and think he could gel with a team in the right system. Also, I think put in the right system he could actually become a good defensive player. He takes a lot of gambles, the problem right now is that when it doesn't pay off, he's got no one to help him. With a good defensive front court I wonder if the good can offset the bad.

Anderson's a good shooter, and a heckuva rebounder. But I just can't take his defensive deficiencies at the power forward spot. The good he provides on the offense, doesn't outweigh the bad on the defense for me to think he's that valuable of a player. And again, a lot of that has to do with where he plays on the court.

Re: Warriors/Hornets/Magic (Trade Rumor)
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2012, 06:17:17 PM »

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Ryan Anderson is the best player in the deal, but he is a restricted free agent.  I don't want him to be traded to Golden State because they seem more likely than Orlando to match the $10-12m/year that I would like to see Ainge throw at Anderson.

I'm sure others will disagree, but I'd take Monta Ellis over Ryan Anderson 100 times out of 100.
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Re: Warriors/Hornets/Magic (Trade Rumor)
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2012, 06:50:34 PM »

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Who's this writer? Never heard of him before.

This is a terrible trade for Golden State.

Depends what they end up with.  If they can use Ellis to turn Biedrins (who has quietly became the worst contract in the league) into expiring deals and an asset like RAnderson, its a solid deal, and should put them in a better position going forward. 

What expiring deals? Who's getting Hedo's contract? It can't be New Orleans. I don't see how that works.

And Ryan Anderson is a scoring role-player in the last year of his rookie contract. If they do something like this, it makes their decision to waste the amnesty in Charlie Bell even more bizarre.