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Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?

Keyon Dooling
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Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« on: March 09, 2012, 10:49:10 PM »

Offline thestackshow

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Im listing these two players, despite playing extremely poorly over the corse of their tenure on the team, continued/continue to recieve prime time minutes and Doc had them playing impact roles for their entire stay here, refusing to bench them in favor of better players and annoying the fan base.
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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 11:05:33 PM »

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Gonna have to go with Mikki Moore, he did almost absolutely NOTING and we gave him a bunch of minutes

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 11:27:43 PM »

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Mikki Moore
Troy  Murphy

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 11:29:26 PM »

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Mikki Moore
Troy  Murphy

I dont think we can blame Troy, when we signed him he was coming off of injuries and had not really played all year, and Doc eventually stopped giving him minutes altogether when his play deteriorated.

Dooling and Mikki Moore continued to get big minutes even though their play didnt deserve it.
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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 11:31:38 PM »

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The worst shooting Celtics in the Big 3 era by shooting percentage (minimum 20 games) are Scalabrine, Dooling, Moore, Marbury, and Pruitt.  PJ Brown, Carlos Arroyo, and Marcus Landry missed the 20 game threshold.

By true shooting percentage, it is Moore, Bradley, Harangody, Pruitt, and Marbury.

Measured by PER, the worst Celtics are Bradley, Dooling, Pavlovic, Scalabrine, and Marbury.

By WS/48, O'Bryant, Moore, Marbury, Bradley, and Dooling.

By offensive rating, Dooling, O'Bryant, Pavlovic, Bradley, and Marbury.

By defensive rating, Scalabrine, Dooling, Allen, Marbury, and Finley.

The only player on all of these is Stephon Marbury and I would gladly nominate him as the worst performing player on the Celtics in the Big 3 era.

EDIT: To clarify, every Moore is E'Twuan Moore, not Mikki Moore.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 11:38:36 PM by LooseCannon »
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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 11:35:54 PM »

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The worst shooting Celtics in the Big 3 era by shooting percentage (minimum 20 games) are Scalabrine, Dooling, Moore, Marbury, and Pruitt.  PJ Brown, Carlos Arroyo, and Marcus Landry missed the 20 game threshold.

By true shooting percentage, it is Moore, Bradley, Harangody, Pruitt, and Marbury.

Measured by PER, the worst Celtics are Bradley, Dooling, Pavlovic, Scalabrine, and Marbury.

By WS/48, O'Bryant, Moore, Marbury, Bradley, and Dooling.

By offensive rating, Dooling, O'Bryant, Pavlovic, Bradley, and Marbury.

By defensive rating, Scalabrine, Dooling, Allen, Marbury, and Finley.

The only player on all of these is Stephon Marbury and I would gladly nominate him as the worst performing player on the Celtics in the Big 3 era.

To Marburys defense he had not really played in 3 years. He was rotting away on the Knicks bench, he basically was thrown into a contending Celtics team right away. Both Moore and Dooling were straight up free agent signings and both had been hyped up to be "good signings" at the time and the team expected them to make an impact on the 2nd unit.
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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 11:37:56 PM »

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The worst shooting Celtics in the Big 3 era by shooting percentage (minimum 20 games) are Scalabrine, Dooling, Moore, Marbury, and Pruitt.  PJ Brown, Carlos Arroyo, and Marcus Landry missed the 20 game threshold.

By true shooting percentage, it is Moore, Bradley, Harangody, Pruitt, and Marbury.

Measured by PER, the worst Celtics are Bradley, Dooling, Pavlovic, Scalabrine, and Marbury.

By WS/48, O'Bryant, Moore, Marbury, Bradley, and Dooling.

By offensive rating, Dooling, O'Bryant, Pavlovic, Bradley, and Marbury.

By defensive rating, Scalabrine, Dooling, Allen, Marbury, and Finley.

The only player on all of these is Stephon Marbury and I would gladly nominate him as the worst performing player on the Celtics in the Big 3 era.

To Marburys defense he had not really played in 3 years. He was rotting away on the Knicks bench, he basically was thrown into a contending Celtics team right away. Both Moore and Dooling were straight up free agent signings and both had been hyped up to be "good signings" at the time and the team expected them to make an impact on the 2nd unit.

Sorry, I forgot there were two Moores.  All of those Moores listed are E'Twuan, not Mikki.
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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 11:38:23 PM »

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The worst shooting Celtics in the Big 3 era by shooting percentage (minimum 20 games) are Scalabrine, Dooling, Moore, Marbury, and Pruitt.  PJ Brown, Carlos Arroyo, and Marcus Landry missed the 20 game threshold.

By true shooting percentage, it is Moore, Bradley, Harangody, Pruitt, and Marbury.

Measured by PER, the worst Celtics are Bradley, Dooling, Pavlovic, Scalabrine, and Marbury.






By WS/48, O'Bryant, Moore, Marbury, Bradley, and Dooling.

By offensive rating, Dooling, O'Bryant, Pavlovic, Bradley, and Marbury.

By defensive rating, Scalabrine, Dooling, Allen, Marbury, and Finley.

The only player on all of these is Stephon Marbury and I would gladly nominate him as the worst performing player on the Celtics in the Big 3 era.

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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 11:52:39 PM »

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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 11:55:43 PM »

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Rasheed Wallace.

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 11:55:49 PM »

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Mikki moore and it's not even close. For 100 reasons but one main one is that he would get a foul a minute.

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 11:58:21 PM »

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Rasheed Wallace.

Not even close especially in hindsight. I can see JO on the list but not sheed.

I would certainly take a 7 footer right now who plays good defense 80 games out of an 82 game season. Not to mention the playoffs. He jacked up 3's and wasn't great on offense but he was a hell of a lot better than JO

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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2012, 12:08:20 AM »

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Mikki Moore or Patty O'Bryant

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2012, 12:10:19 AM »

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Mikki moore and it's not even close. For 100 reasons but one main one is that he would get a foul a minute.

Technically, a foul every five minutes.  Moore fouled at about the same rate as Greg Stiemsma does this season, 7.6 per 36 minutes.  The Celtics who committed fouls at a higher rate during the Big 3 era are Patrick O'Bryant (9.7 every 36 minutes), Scott Pollard, and Bill Walker.

Here's your list of regular season stats for Celtics during the Big 3 era.
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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2012, 12:19:55 AM »

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Rasheed Wallace.

Not even close especially in hindsight. I can see JO on the list but not sheed.

I would certainly take a 7 footer right now who plays good defense 80 games out of an 82 game season. Not to mention the playoffs. He jacked up 3's and wasn't great on offense but he was a hell of a lot better than JO

And was a better low post defender than KG and Perk that season.

People that say he didn't do anything really make me scratch my head about what games people are watching.

ALSO: Does anybody think it's a coincidence that Rondo's best assist totals came in a season where Rasheed Wallace played 1,780 minutes? Dude opened the floor up for the Celtics. Even if he was missing more of his shots he was still drawing a defender out to him.