What could the Colts get for the #1 Overall

[KG Living Legend]

 Just got me thinking with this Luck Vs RG-3 debate.

 What would it take to get the number one overall in this Draft.
 Two one's and two two's?

 By the way who do you like overall if you have the number one.

 I say luck but I really Love RG3 it's not an easy choice.

[Roy H.]

The Redskins just traded for the #2 pick.

The Washington Redskins have agreed to a trade with the St. Louis Rams in which Washington will receive the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft — and plan to use it to select Heisman Trophy-winning Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III, FOXSports.com has learned.

Washington is trading up from the No. 6 pick in the April 26 draft.

The trade cannot become official until the start of the new league year, which begins next week.

Under the deal, the Redskins and Rams will swap first-rounders this year. The Rams also will receive future first-round picks as well as additional draft picks, one of which is believed to be a second-rounder, sources said.

That's confusing, but it looks like Washington is giving up this year's #1 (6th overall), plus two future #1s and a #2.  

EDIT:

In the deal, the Rams will receive the Redskins' No. 6 overall pick, as well as the Redskins' first-round picks in 2013 and 2014. The Rams will also receive Washington's second-round pick this year in return for the second overall pick that the Redskins now will use on whichever quarterback the Indianapolis Colts do not draft No. 1 overall.

The Redskins are such a poorly run franchise.  Maybe RGIII turns out to be a superstud, but three #1s and a high #2 seems crazy to me.

[PosImpos]

The Redskins just traded for the #2 pick.

The Washington Redskins have agreed to a trade with the St. Louis Rams in which Washington will receive the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft — and plan to use it to select Heisman Trophy-winning Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III, FOXSports.com has learned.

Washington is trading up from the No. 6 pick in the April 26 draft.

The trade cannot become official until the start of the new league year, which begins next week.

Under the deal, the Redskins and Rams will swap first-rounders this year. The Rams also will receive future first-round picks as well as additional draft picks, one of which is believed to be a second-rounder, sources said.

That's confusing, but it looks like Washington is giving up this year's #1 (6th overall), plus two future #1s and a #2.  

EDIT:

In the deal, the Rams will receive the Redskins' No. 6 overall pick, as well as the Redskins' first-round picks in 2013 and 2014. The Rams will also receive Washington's second-round pick this year in return for the second overall pick that the Redskins now will use on whichever quarterback the Indianapolis Colts do not draft No. 1 overall.

The Redskins are such a poorly run franchise.  Maybe RGIII turns out to be a superstud, but three #1s and a high #2 seems crazy to me.

It's an enormous price to pay, but if RG3 turns out to be a real star quarterback, I think it's worth it.  In the NFL, your franchise isn't going anywhere unless you have an elite quarterback.  There's almost no price too high to pay to get one, because having one can make up for a lot of deficiencies in other areas.

Plus, I think the Redskins already have a bunch of talent on their roster (Moss, Hall, Orakpo, Helu etc), so giving up draft picks maybe doesn't hurt them as much as it could.

[greg683x]

The Redskins just traded for the #2 pick.

The Washington Redskins have agreed to a trade with the St. Louis Rams in which Washington will receive the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft — and plan to use it to select Heisman Trophy-winning Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III, FOXSports.com has learned.

Washington is trading up from the No. 6 pick in the April 26 draft.

The trade cannot become official until the start of the new league year, which begins next week.

Under the deal, the Redskins and Rams will swap first-rounders this year. The Rams also will receive future first-round picks as well as additional draft picks, one of which is believed to be a second-rounder, sources said.

That's confusing, but it looks like Washington is giving up this year's #1 (6th overall), plus two future #1s and a #2.  

EDIT:

In the deal, the Rams will receive the Redskins' No. 6 overall pick, as well as the Redskins' first-round picks in 2013 and 2014. The Rams will also receive Washington's second-round pick this year in return for the second overall pick that the Redskins now will use on whichever quarterback the Indianapolis Colts do not draft No. 1 overall.

The Redskins are such a poorly run franchise.  Maybe RGIII turns out to be a superstud, but three #1s and a high #2 seems crazy to me.

It's an enormous price to pay, but if RG3 turns out to be a real star quarterback, I think it's worth it.  In the NFL, your franchise isn't going anywhere unless you have an elite quarterback.  There's almost no price too high to pay to get one, because having one can make up for a lot of deficiencies in other areas.

Plus, I think the Redskins already have a bunch of talent on their roster (Moss, Hall, Orakpo, Helu etc), so giving up draft picks maybe doesn't hurt them as much as it could.

TP My thoughts exactly.  The Skins have been real smart over the past year or two with their picks and money.  They still have a bunch of picks in this years draft and they have a massive amount of cap space to surround Griffin with quality young talent, so the it's not in years past where the redskins will only have 1 pick or two in the draft bc they traded them all away.


.....on another note, I wonder how quickly this deal got rushed to get done after Peyton got done laughing at Dan Snyder when he called.

[Smokeeye123]

Judging by the ridiculous Haul the Redskins gave the Rams, probably like 5 first round picks.

[Chris]

Its a huge price to pay...but it is absolutely worth it if he turns out to be a true franchise QB.  Those guys can singlehandedly make teams contenders, and are few and far between, so their value is immeasurable.

Now, I am not nearly as convinced of RG3 as I am with Luck, but I commend the Redskins for playing a hand.  If it works, the picks don't matter.  If it doesn't work...well, they were going nowhere with their QBs anyways.

[guava_wrench]

Probably have to compare this to the Eli Manning trade.

You also have to weight the fact that 6th is well below 2nd, and there is no guarantee that any of the other 1sts will be among the top.

But in the end, it wouldn't be surprising if that pick ends up resulting in 3 perennial all-pro players.

[guava_wrench]

Its a huge price to pay...but it is absolutely worth it if he turns out to be a true franchise QB.  Those guys can singlehandedly make teams contenders, and are few and far between, so their value is immeasurable.

Now, I am not nearly as convinced of RG3 as I am with Luck, but I commend the Redskins for playing a hand.  If it works, the picks don't matter.  If it doesn't work...well, they were going nowhere with their QBs anyways.

Is it too high of a price considering the risk? Risk should be considered when evaluating trades.

[BostonArizona]

Redskins...the laughing stock of the NFL?

Seriously though, RG3 will sell tickets and get the fans excited about football in Washington.

In my opinion the NFL draft has so many impact players even in late rounds that draft picks are more about quantity than quality.

Luck and RG3 both look special, but they gave up potentially 3-5 STARS in the NFL.

[KGs Knee]

3 1st rd picks and a 2nd rd pick seems a little high a price to me.

It's definitely a gamble.  If it works out, it looks like a great move.  If not, well just ask the Chargers about how they feel about Ryan Leaf.

[Chris]

Its a huge price to pay...but it is absolutely worth it if he turns out to be a true franchise QB.  Those guys can singlehandedly make teams contenders, and are few and far between, so their value is immeasurable.

Now, I am not nearly as convinced of RG3 as I am with Luck, but I commend the Redskins for playing a hand.  If it works, the picks don't matter.  If it doesn't work...well, they were going nowhere with their QBs anyways.

Is it too high of a price considering the risk? Risk should be considered when evaluating trades.

What's the risk though?  The franchise has been terrible for years, and without a franchise QB, there doesn't seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel.  If the trade doesn't work out, the team will suck for another 5 years...if they didn't make the trade, chances are the team would suck for another 5 years.  But, if the trade does work out, then the franchise could be turned around.

I wouldn't like to see a team like the Pats do something like this, but for a franchise like the Redskins, they really have nothing to lose.

[KGs Knee]

Its a huge price to pay...but it is absolutely worth it if he turns out to be a true franchise QB.  Those guys can singlehandedly make teams contenders, and are few and far between, so their value is immeasurable.

Now, I am not nearly as convinced of RG3 as I am with Luck, but I commend the Redskins for playing a hand.  If it works, the picks don't matter.  If it doesn't work...well, they were going nowhere with their QBs anyways.

Is it too high of a price considering the risk? Risk should be considered when evaluating trades.

What's the risk though?  The franchise has been terrible for years, and without a franchise QB, there doesn't seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel.  If the trade doesn't work out, the team will suck for another 5 years...if they didn't make the trade, chances are the team would suck for another 5 years.  But, if the trade does work out, then the franchise could be turned around.

I wouldn't like to see a team like the Pats do something like this, but for a franchise like the Redskins, they really have nothing to lose.

Yeah, I suppose that a reasonable way of looking at it.

I mean, the Giants gave up quite a bit for Eli (although I don't think they gave up this much), and as a Giants fan I never thought twice about it.  Sure has been worth it too!

Washington just better pray it doesn't turn out like the Leaf situation (altough that was more to do with character flaws, which I don't think RG3 has).

[GreenFaith1819]

I don't know what the Colts could get, but I thank God that the Redskins are making moves.

From what I've read and heard about RGIII, this is a GOOD risk.

All it takes is that one special player, and I believe it's him. I was hoping that perhaps Peyton was that guy, but all indications point to WAS being at the bottom of his list.

Like Pos stated - we have pieces already, but we need THAT piece.

RGIII (or Peyton) is THAT piece.

[Cman]

The Redskins just traded for the #2 pick.

The Washington Redskins have agreed to a trade with the St. Louis Rams in which Washington will receive the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft — and plan to use it to select Heisman Trophy-winning Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III, FOXSports.com has learned.

Washington is trading up from the No. 6 pick in the April 26 draft.

The trade cannot become official until the start of the new league year, which begins next week.

Under the deal, the Redskins and Rams will swap first-rounders this year. The Rams also will receive future first-round picks as well as additional draft picks, one of which is believed to be a second-rounder, sources said.

That's confusing, but it looks like Washington is giving up this year's #1 (6th overall), plus two future #1s and a #2.  

EDIT:

In the deal, the Rams will receive the Redskins' No. 6 overall pick, as well as the Redskins' first-round picks in 2013 and 2014. The Rams will also receive Washington's second-round pick this year in return for the second overall pick that the Redskins now will use on whichever quarterback the Indianapolis Colts do not draft No. 1 overall.

The Redskins are such a poorly run franchise.  Maybe RGIII turns out to be a superstud, but three #1s and a high #2 seems crazy to me.

The Rams just hit the jackpot, IMHO.

[Chris]

The Redskins just traded for the #2 pick.

The Washington Redskins have agreed to a trade with the St. Louis Rams in which Washington will receive the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft — and plan to use it to select Heisman Trophy-winning Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III, FOXSports.com has learned.

Washington is trading up from the No. 6 pick in the April 26 draft.

The trade cannot become official until the start of the new league year, which begins next week.

Under the deal, the Redskins and Rams will swap first-rounders this year. The Rams also will receive future first-round picks as well as additional draft picks, one of which is believed to be a second-rounder, sources said.

That's confusing, but it looks like Washington is giving up this year's #1 (6th overall), plus two future #1s and a #2.  

EDIT:

In the deal, the Rams will receive the Redskins' No. 6 overall pick, as well as the Redskins' first-round picks in 2013 and 2014. The Rams will also receive Washington's second-round pick this year in return for the second overall pick that the Redskins now will use on whichever quarterback the Indianapolis Colts do not draft No. 1 overall.

The Redskins are such a poorly run franchise.  Maybe RGIII turns out to be a superstud, but three #1s and a high #2 seems crazy to me.

The Rams just hit the jackpot, IMHO.

I think this is a case of both teams winning (at least until we see what happens to these draft picks).