Am I the only one who thinks trading Rondo is a horrible idea?

[cman88]

If ainge was really shopping rondo as hard as the media claims. He would be gone by now...the fact that he hasn't been traded shows me that ainge is only enquiring and would trade him for the RIGHT deal...I expect rondo to still be here march 16

You don't trade good players for nothing just becausrle of a personality conflict...ask utah how tradinf d.will worked out..pretty sure mj and kobe didn't have the best personalities either.

[Eddie20]

I have no idea why some are so against the very thought of trading Rondo. More than likely we will get fair value for Rondo. However, what people here deem as fair value seems very much in question.  The Nuggets were handcuffed into basically trading Anthony to NY and they received plenty of value, perhaps too much. And that coincidentally is the answer to the thread starter's question, of "when has a team ever traded their best player and it worked'. Denver has played much better since the trade.

Rondo's warts are plentiful. If he had personality issues, but could actually shoot from the perimeter and consistently hit FT's, then I could deal with his quirky behavior. However, how can you not trust your "best player" in late game situations? You basically have to hide him late in games. Does anyone even remember one time Rondo has ever hit a wide open medium range jumper in the last couple of minutes of a close game? So while Rondo makes his teammates better in the first 3Q, maybe even first 42 minutes of a game, I argue that he makes his teammates life harder during the latter stages of his game with his sheer inability to shoot.  When Rondo is in transition he is usually phenomenal, when he isn't trying to make a highlight reel pass, but once the game slows, as it does in the playoffs, then his game isn't that of an all-star type player. Not even close.

[JHTruth]

I have no idea why some are so against the very thought of trading Rondo. More than likely we will get fair value for Rondo. However, what people here deem as fair value seems very much in question.  The Nuggets were handcuffed into basically trading Anthony to NY and they received plenty of value, perhaps too much. And that coincidentally is the answer to the thread starter's question, of "when has a team ever traded their best player and it worked'. Denver has played much better since the trade.

Rondo's warts are plentiful. If he had personality issues, but could actually shoot from the perimeter and consistently hit FT's, then I could deal with his quirky behavior. However, how can you not trust your "best player" in late game situations? You basically have to hide him late in games. Does anyone even remember one time Rondo has ever hit a wide open medium range jumper in the last couple of minutes of a close game? So while Rondo makes his teammates better in the first 3Q, maybe even first 42 minutes of a game, I argue that he makes his teammates life harder during the latter stages of his game with his sheer inability to shoot.  When Rondo is in transition he is usually phenomenal, when he isn't trying to make a highlight reel pass, but once the game slows, as it does in the playoffs, then his game isn't that of an all-star type player. Not even close.

Honestly, do you think this team ever won a championship or got as far as they did in any playoffs without Rondo? You talk like Rondo was useless in the playoffs series we've won he's been our best playoff performer in the Big 3 era.

And no way Denver is better without Carmelo. Come on, they made it to the WCF with Carmelo. Now they're a .500 team. This is ridiculous..

[BballTim]

I have no idea why some are so against the very thought of trading Rondo. More than likely we will get fair value for Rondo. However, what people here deem as fair value seems very much in question.  The Nuggets were handcuffed into basically trading Anthony to NY and they received plenty of value, perhaps too much. And that coincidentally is the answer to the thread starter's question, of "when has a team ever traded their best player and it worked'. Denver has played much better since the trade.

Rondo's warts are plentiful. If he had personality issues, but could actually shoot from the perimeter and consistently hit FT's, then I could deal with his quirky behavior. However, how can you not trust your "best player" in late game situations? You basically have to hide him late in games. Does anyone even remember one time Rondo has ever hit a wide open medium range jumper in the last couple of minutes of a close game? So while Rondo makes his teammates better in the first 3Q, maybe even first 42 minutes of a game, I argue that he makes his teammates life harder during the latter stages of his game with his sheer inability to shoot.  When Rondo is in transition he is usually phenomenal, when he isn't trying to make a highlight reel pass, but once the game slows, as it does in the playoffs, then his game isn't that of an all-star type player. Not even close.

  Rondo's averaged 16/7/10 over the last 3 seasons in the playoffs. Those are clearly all-star numbers.

[Corey]

Rondo isn't a piece you can build around moving forward. He's a good complimentary player. His offensive inefficiencies make it impossible for him to be a top 3 option on the offensive end.

The only major difference between Rondo's rookie year and this year (and all the years in between) is that he's gradually taking more shots per game. His conversion rates on these shots is generally the same.

His rookie year he shot 33% from 3-9 feet. This year he's shooting 33% from 3-9 feet.

His rookie year he shot 41% from 10-15 feet. This year he's shooting 40% from 10-15 feet.

His sophomore year he shot 43% from 16-23 feet. This year he's shooting 42% from 16-23 feet.

His best 3pt shooting year was in 2009 at 31%. This year he's back down to 25%.

His free throw percentages arent getting any better.

[JHTruth]

Rondo isn't a piece you can build around moving forward. He's a good complimentary player. His offensive inefficiencies make it impossible for him to be a top 3 option on the offensive end.

The only major difference between Rondo's rookie year and this year (and all the years in between) is that he's gradually taking more shots per game. His conversion rates on these shots is generally the same.

His rookie year he shot 33% from 3-9 feet. This year he's shooting 33% from 3-9 feet.

His rookie year he shot 41% from 10-15 feet. This year he's shooting 40% from 10-15 feet.

His sophomore year he shot 43% from 16-23 feet. This year he's shooting 42% from 16-23 feet.

His best 3pt shooting year was in 2009 at 31%. This year he's back down to 25%.

His free throw percentages arent getting any better.

Those are his weak points. Dont disregard his strong points..

[Eddie20]

I have no idea why some are so against the very thought of trading Rondo. More than likely we will get fair value for Rondo. However, what people here deem as fair value seems very much in question.  The Nuggets were handcuffed into basically trading Anthony to NY and they received plenty of value, perhaps too much. And that coincidentally is the answer to the thread starter's question, of "when has a team ever traded their best player and it worked'. Denver has played much better since the trade.

Rondo's warts are plentiful. If he had personality issues, but could actually shoot from the perimeter and consistently hit FT's, then I could deal with his quirky behavior. However, how can you not trust your "best player" in late game situations? You basically have to hide him late in games. Does anyone even remember one time Rondo has ever hit a wide open medium range jumper in the last couple of minutes of a close game? So while Rondo makes his teammates better in the first 3Q, maybe even first 42 minutes of a game, I argue that he makes his teammates life harder during the latter stages of his game with his sheer inability to shoot.  When Rondo is in transition he is usually phenomenal, when he isn't trying to make a highlight reel pass, but once the game slows, as it does in the playoffs, then his game isn't that of an all-star type player. Not even close.

Honestly, do you think this team ever won a championship or got as far as they did in any playoffs without Rondo? You talk like Rondo was useless in the playoffs series we've won he's been our best playoff performer in the Big 3 era.

And no way Denver is better without Carmelo. Come on, they made it to the WCF with Carmelo. Now they're a .500 team. This is ridiculous..

Yes, this team would have won a championship without Rondo. If you remember we often hid him the 4th in favor of Eddie House. He played well in 09 and 10, but do you find it coincidental that as the Big 3 worsen more flaws in his game come to the surface?

Denver was struggling last year with Melo. They went 18-7 post-Melo, 31-25 with Melo. They lost in 5 to OKC, but lost 3 of the 4 games by a combined 10 points. This year they are 19-17, while the Knicks are 18-18. However, the Nuggets record is skewed since Wilson Chandler, one of the key pieces from the Melo deal, has been stuck in China all year. Plus, they failed to re-sign both Martin and JR Smith.

[JHTruth]

I have no idea why some are so against the very thought of trading Rondo. More than likely we will get fair value for Rondo. However, what people here deem as fair value seems very much in question.  The Nuggets were handcuffed into basically trading Anthony to NY and they received plenty of value, perhaps too much. And that coincidentally is the answer to the thread starter's question, of "when has a team ever traded their best player and it worked'. Denver has played much better since the trade.

Rondo's warts are plentiful. If he had personality issues, but could actually shoot from the perimeter and consistently hit FT's, then I could deal with his quirky behavior. However, how can you not trust your "best player" in late game situations? You basically have to hide him late in games. Does anyone even remember one time Rondo has ever hit a wide open medium range jumper in the last couple of minutes of a close game? So while Rondo makes his teammates better in the first 3Q, maybe even first 42 minutes of a game, I argue that he makes his teammates life harder during the latter stages of his game with his sheer inability to shoot.  When Rondo is in transition he is usually phenomenal, when he isn't trying to make a highlight reel pass, but once the game slows, as it does in the playoffs, then his game isn't that of an all-star type player. Not even close.

Honestly, do you think this team ever won a championship or got as far as they did in any playoffs without Rondo? You talk like Rondo was useless in the playoffs series we've won he's been our best playoff performer in the Big 3 era.

And no way Denver is better without Carmelo. Come on, they made it to the WCF with Carmelo. Now they're a .500 team. This is ridiculous..

Yes, this team would have won a championship without Rondo. If you remember we often hid him the 4th in favor of Eddie House. He played well in 09 and 10, but do you find it coincidental that as the Big 3 worsen more flaws in his game come to the surface?

Denver was struggling last year with Melo. They went 18-7 post-Melo, 31-25 with Melo. They lost in 5 to OKC, but lost 3 of the 4 games by a combined 10 points. This year they are 19-17, while the Knicks are 18-18. However, the Nuggets record is skewed since Wilson Chandler, one of the key pieces from the Melo deal, has been stuck in China all year. Plus, they failed to re-sign both Martin and JR Smith.

Well of course he has flaws. Every player in the league has flaws. No team can win a title with one good player. They Big 3 would never have won it without Rondo that is just crazy talk. Eddie House couldn't even dribble it up the court without getting stripped half the time. Ray handled the ball with House in. He did OK but Ray is in no way a PG he plays off the ball. Rondo is the key to the team, always has been...

[goCeltics]

rondo doesn't excell at perimeter shooting the stat ppl love so he gets undervalued here, therefore people wanna get rid of him. If bill russell played on this team the same ppl would wanna get him of him too, for the same reason

Basketball fans are accustomed to evaluating ball players by how many points they put up, especially post jordon era.

[LooseCannon]

I have no idea why some are so against the very thought of trading Rondo. More than likely we will get fair value for Rondo. However, what people here deem as fair value seems very much in question.  The Nuggets were handcuffed into basically trading Anthony to NY and they received plenty of value, perhaps too much. And that coincidentally is the answer to the thread starter's question, of "when has a team ever traded their best player and it worked'. Denver has played much better since the trade.

The Knicks clearly overvalued Carmelo Anthony.  People doubt getting fair value for Rondo because he seems like a player who is undervalued.

I consider fair value to be gaining back a player who I expect to be named to an NBA All-Star team at least once in the next five years.  For the record, I do not believe Al Jefferson fits that description.

[Eddie20]

I have no idea why some are so against the very thought of trading Rondo. More than likely we will get fair value for Rondo. However, what people here deem as fair value seems very much in question.  The Nuggets were handcuffed into basically trading Anthony to NY and they received plenty of value, perhaps too much. And that coincidentally is the answer to the thread starter's question, of "when has a team ever traded their best player and it worked'. Denver has played much better since the trade.

Rondo's warts are plentiful. If he had personality issues, but could actually shoot from the perimeter and consistently hit FT's, then I could deal with his quirky behavior. However, how can you not trust your "best player" in late game situations? You basically have to hide him late in games. Does anyone even remember one time Rondo has ever hit a wide open medium range jumper in the last couple of minutes of a close game? So while Rondo makes his teammates better in the first 3Q, maybe even first 42 minutes of a game, I argue that he makes his teammates life harder during the latter stages of his game with his sheer inability to shoot.  When Rondo is in transition he is usually phenomenal, when he isn't trying to make a highlight reel pass, but once the game slows, as it does in the playoffs, then his game isn't that of an all-star type player. Not even close.

Honestly, do you think this team ever won a championship or got as far as they did in any playoffs without Rondo? You talk like Rondo was useless in the playoffs series we've won he's been our best playoff performer in the Big 3 era.

And no way Denver is better without Carmelo. Come on, they made it to the WCF with Carmelo. Now they're a .500 team. This is ridiculous..

Yes, this team would have won a championship without Rondo. If you remember we often hid him the 4th in favor of Eddie House. He played well in 09 and 10, but do you find it coincidental that as the Big 3 worsen more flaws in his game come to the surface?

Denver was struggling last year with Melo. They went 18-7 post-Melo, 31-25 with Melo. They lost in 5 to OKC, but lost 3 of the 4 games by a combined 10 points. This year they are 19-17, while the Knicks are 18-18. However, the Nuggets record is skewed since Wilson Chandler, one of the key pieces from the Melo deal, has been stuck in China all year. Plus, they failed to re-sign both Martin and JR Smith.

Well of course he has flaws. Every player in the league has flaws. No team can win a title with one good player. They Big 3 would never have won it without Rondo that is just crazy talk. Eddie House couldn't even dribble it up the court without getting stripped half the time. Ray handled the ball with House in. He did OK but Ray is in no way a PG he plays off the ball. Rondo is the key to the team, always has been...

We would have won a title with Cassell and House. Every team needs role players to win. And Rondo in 2008 was just that. I maintain that Posey was just as important to that title as Rondo was. Nice role players, but role players nevertheless.

[Eddie20]

rondo doesn't excell at perimeter shooting the stat ppl love so he gets undervalued here, therefore people wanna get rid of him. If bill russell played on this team the same ppl would wanna get him of him too, for the same reason

Basketball fans are accustomed to evaluating ball players by how many points they put up, especially post jordon era.

It's not about scoring. In fact, I prefer pure point guards. However, you can't have an offensive liability either. You need a player that will keep a defense honest. Teams know Rondo is scared to shoot late in games, that's why they help off him.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

I think it is a terrible idea...the wrong idea, the wrong method. We LOVE pp, ray, kg....but basketball cares little for what you did yesterday....sorry, but the other teams will just run your yesterdays over. It isn't for lack of loyalty....but you get paid as a multi millionaire, you aren't going to collect unemployment........gotta get a better mix of youth, experience going if you trade anyone..!

[BballTim]

I have no idea why some are so against the very thought of trading Rondo. More than likely we will get fair value for Rondo. However, what people here deem as fair value seems very much in question.  The Nuggets were handcuffed into basically trading Anthony to NY and they received plenty of value, perhaps too much. And that coincidentally is the answer to the thread starter's question, of "when has a team ever traded their best player and it worked'. Denver has played much better since the trade.

Rondo's warts are plentiful. If he had personality issues, but could actually shoot from the perimeter and consistently hit FT's, then I could deal with his quirky behavior. However, how can you not trust your "best player" in late game situations? You basically have to hide him late in games. Does anyone even remember one time Rondo has ever hit a wide open medium range jumper in the last couple of minutes of a close game? So while Rondo makes his teammates better in the first 3Q, maybe even first 42 minutes of a game, I argue that he makes his teammates life harder during the latter stages of his game with his sheer inability to shoot.  When Rondo is in transition he is usually phenomenal, when he isn't trying to make a highlight reel pass, but once the game slows, as it does in the playoffs, then his game isn't that of an all-star type player. Not even close.

Honestly, do you think this team ever won a championship or got as far as they did in any playoffs without Rondo? You talk like Rondo was useless in the playoffs series we've won he's been our best playoff performer in the Big 3 era.

And no way Denver is better without Carmelo. Come on, they made it to the WCF with Carmelo. Now they're a .500 team. This is ridiculous..

Yes, this team would have won a championship without Rondo. If you remember we often hid him the 4th in favor of Eddie House. He played well in 09 and 10, but do you find it coincidental that as the Big 3 worsen more flaws in his game come to the surface?

Denver was struggling last year with Melo. They went 18-7 post-Melo, 31-25 with Melo. They lost in 5 to OKC, but lost 3 of the 4 games by a combined 10 points. This year they are 19-17, while the Knicks are 18-18. However, the Nuggets record is skewed since Wilson Chandler, one of the key pieces from the Melo deal, has been stuck in China all year. Plus, they failed to re-sign both Martin and JR Smith.

Well of course he has flaws. Every player in the league has flaws. No team can win a title with one good player. They Big 3 would never have won it without Rondo that is just crazy talk. Eddie House couldn't even dribble it up the court without getting stripped half the time. Ray handled the ball with House in. He did OK but Ray is in no way a PG he plays off the ball. Rondo is the key to the team, always has been...

We would have won a title with Cassell and House. Every team needs role players to win. And Rondo in 2008 was just that. I maintain that Posey was just as important to that title as Rondo was. Nice role players, but role players nevertheless.

  Cassell and House both played in spurts while the other sat because they were both playing poorly enough to play their way out of the lineup when they had their chances. Rondo had plenty of good games in the playoffs, including 3 against the Lakers in the finals.

[mctyson]

I completely endores the OP.  Rondo made sense for Chris Paul - he is a possible MVP.  Rondo for Steph Curry is a complete disaster.