Am I the only one who thinks trading Rondo is a horrible idea?

[JHTruth]

The issue isn't really how you trade Rondo or what you get back.  The issue is WHY you trade him.  If you want to get rid of a character because he's a bad teammate or has character issues or you just don't think he's good enough, that's one thing.  Shipping out your best player because he doesn't get along with your coach?  THAT'S a horrible idea.  In a personality conflict between a good-to-great player and a good coach, don't you always have to go with the player?

Mike

Yeah I always wondered why they extended Doc anyway. They knew a rebuild was very close on the horizon and Doc is just not that type of coach. He loves his vets. I can see this guy having a nervous breakdown in a couple years..

[CeltsAcumen]

I do.  The attitude issue aside, bc I really have nothing intelligent to say on the subject, I would not trade Rondo bc it will be difficult to get equal value.

Rondo is an excellent point guard, its doubtful the Celts will get something worthwhile in return.

[Smokeeye123]

Depends who you'd get...I don't want Stephan Curry.

[Yogi]

   Don't listen to any of the nonsense that is out there.  There is very little chance Rondo is traded.  Despite what people may say, he is EXACTLY the type of guy you need to build around.
1) He's an all-star who doesn't take up a lot of cap space.
2) He makes anyone who you put around him better allowing more flexibility in how you chose to rebuild.  
3) He's a guy that's not going to leave the Celtics out to dry in free agency, because he's actually a star that WANTS to play in Boston.  
4) The guy plays basketball the right way.  I have NEVER seen him back down from anyone.  Kobe, Lebron, Rose, Howard NO ONE.  He's a winner.
5) He has consistently improved every year he's been in the league.  No reason why that should stop any time soon.  
6) In an league where there are more and more star point guards, he's the hardest point guard in the league to score on.  
7) He can give a assists, points and/or rebounds, deflections, steals whatever the team needs.  
8 ) He sells tickets, and merchandise.  
9) He has been groomed by Doc and the Big 3 to be the next leader of the Celtics.  Ignore the unverified rumors and listen to what Doc, Danny and the Big 3 say about him.  He's the leader of the team.  They all love him and want him here.  
Pau Gasol? Al Jefferson?  That's down right laughable.  Steph Curry is possible because he is young but he's nowhere near the player Rondo is.  

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If Ainge and Doc wanted Rondo out and there was a good return to the Celtics they ALREADY would have done it.  I think it is obvious that they can't get a good return for him right now.  Plus the leak to the media that they are really shopping him probably really lowers the trade value.  My guess is that unless some other team gets comes out of the woodwork with a great deal that Rondo is here at least for the rest of the season.  

The Rondo for Curry doesn't make sense to me.  I think that is a bad trade for the Celtics.  It just doesn't make any sense.  If we are not getting an all star player back in return, or a young borderline future all star you don't trade Rondo.  After Ray and KG's contracts expire all we really have is PP and Rondo to build from.

[Tone]

depends on who we get but i think this trade talk will eventually bother him so we might have to make a deal

[Yoki_IsTheName]

You're not. Although I'm clear that if we are getting good value then we should consider since he's being shopped already anyway, Rondo is still for me a top 10 PG, a triple double threat. I don't really understand why the Celtics want him out, or some of the fans. He's the best player of our team and attitude issues aside, one the bets PG in the league.

So for me, unless were getting a solid package (not straight up, i'd take Rondo over those two any day) that involves either Kyle Lowry or Steph Curry and to an extent Jose Calderon and the Raptors' 1st, trading Rondo is bad idea.

[RyNye]

Rondo needs young, athletic players to run with. The fact that he has played as well as he has on this old, slow team is REMARKABLE, and a testament to how gifted he really is. Once he has the right pieces around him, he will be dominant.

I just don't really see the logic in trading him, unless you get a CLEAR upgrade. Curry and Rondo are about on par. In terms of efficiency, they are roughly the same, but Curry focuses on scoring, Rondo on assists. You can make an argument as to why Curry might be better for us, and vice versa. It's not a CLEAR upgrade, it is most likely a lateral move. Curry will score a lot, but the Big 3 will score less; I doubt he will improve the team in any way (especially since his defense is sub-par).

Who else is available that's a CLEAR upgrade? There really isn't. So why not keep him? He's a superstar that we have for cheap.

[indeedproceed]

You're not. Although I'm clear that if we are getting good value then we should consider since he's being shopped already anyway, Rondo is still for me a top 10 PG, a triple double threat. I don't really understand why the Celtics want him out, or some of the fans. He's the best player of our team and attitude issues aside, one the bets PG in the league.

So for me, unless were getting a solid package (not straight up, i'd take Rondo over those two any day) that involves either Kyle Lowry or Steph Curry and to an extent Jose Calderon and the Raptors' 1st, trading Rondo is bad idea.

Look who I turned into a Kyle Lowry fan! Embrace the Lowry-ness!

[Yoki_IsTheName]

You're not. Although I'm clear that if we are getting good value then we should consider since he's being shopped already anyway, Rondo is still for me a top 10 PG, a triple double threat. I don't really understand why the Celtics want him out, or some of the fans. He's the best player of our team and attitude issues aside, one the bets PG in the league.

So for me, unless were getting a solid package (not straight up, i'd take Rondo over those two any day) that involves either Kyle Lowry or Steph Curry and to an extent Jose Calderon and the Raptors' 1st, trading Rondo is bad idea.

Look who I turned into a Kyle Lowry fan! Embrace the Lowry-ness!

Yep IP, you have convinced me. I mean Lowry is no Rondo, he's a little downgrade. I mean we're talking about an All Star triple double threat PG vs a PG who's starter quality, near all star talent. But with a potential package that could come along (picks maybe) it could be worth it.

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TP.  This is exactly how I feel.  We may get a curry type player for a year on their first contract, but then we are forced to ante up to sign them long term for way more than Rondo is making.

We know Rondo is a great player.  We know he has issues, but I don't think GM's make long term moves based on a bit of personality conflict.  Rondo and Doc just need to get on the same page, and both need to adjust their ways of doing things once the big three aren't leading the way.

He's a superstar that we have for cheap.

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Absolutely.  I would do a Lowry for Rondo deal.  I think Lowry's ceiling may be higher than Rondo's and he has some of the toughness and effort as a player both ways that impresses me.  I bet you would have to pry him away from Cleveland cold dead hands though...

You're not. Although I'm clear that if we are getting good value then we should consider since he's being shopped already anyway, Rondo is still for me a top 10 PG, a triple double threat. I don't really understand why the Celtics want him out, or some of the fans. He's the best player of our team and attitude issues aside, one the bets PG in the league.

So for me, unless were getting a solid package (not straight up, i'd take Rondo over those two any day) that involves either Kyle Lowry or Steph Curry and to an extent Jose Calderon and the Raptors' 1st, trading Rondo is bad idea.

Look who I turned into a Kyle Lowry fan! Embrace the Lowry-ness!

Yep IP, you have convinced me. I mean Lowry is no Rondo, he's a little downgrade still though. I mean we're talking about an All Star triple double threat PG vs a PG who's starter quality, near all star talent. But with a potential package that could come along (picks maybe) it could be worth it.

[indeedproceed]

Absolutely.  I would do a Lowry for Rondo deal.  I think Lowry's ceiling may be higher than Rondo's and he has some of the toughness and effort as a player both ways that impresses me.  I bet you would have to pry him away from Cleveland cold dead hands though...

You're not. Although I'm clear that if we are getting good value then we should consider since he's being shopped already anyway, Rondo is still for me a top 10 PG, a triple double threat. I don't really understand why the Celtics want him out, or some of the fans. He's the best player of our team and attitude issues aside, one the bets PG in the league.

So for me, unless were getting a solid package (not straight up, i'd take Rondo over those two any day) that involves either Kyle Lowry or Steph Curry and to an extent Jose Calderon and the Raptors' 1st, trading Rondo is bad idea.

Look who I turned into a Kyle Lowry fan! Embrace the Lowry-ness!

Yep IP, you have convinced me. I mean Lowry is no Rondo, he's a little downgrade still though. I mean we're talking about an All Star triple double threat PG vs a PG who's starter quality, near all star talent. But with a potential package that could come along (picks maybe) it could be worth it.

Plays for Houston anyways, unless you mean Kyrie Irving.

[2short]

Well when there was a post about paul's recent poor play and him not being happy or possibly involved in a trade I posted this:
the players, team and mgt know more than any of us for sure and 99% of the reporters so we can only guess

I personally can't see rondo & kg not getting along, they are of the same mold but one is quiet, one LOUD.  Rondo is one of the smarter players I've seen in awhile.  Unless he is an absolute cancer or cannot get along with doc we keep him.

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yes, sorry i meant Kyrie Irving not Lowry.

Absolutely.  I would do a Lowry for Rondo deal.  I think Lowry's ceiling may be higher than Rondo's and he has some of the toughness and effort as a player both ways that impresses me.  I bet you would have to pry him away from Cleveland cold dead hands though...

You're not. Although I'm clear that if we are getting good value then we should consider since he's being shopped already anyway, Rondo is still for me a top 10 PG, a triple double threat. I don't really understand why the Celtics want him out, or some of the fans. He's the best player of our team and attitude issues aside, one the bets PG in the league.

So for me, unless were getting a solid package (not straight up, i'd take Rondo over those two any day) that involves either Kyle Lowry or Steph Curry and to an extent Jose Calderon and the Raptors' 1st, trading Rondo is bad idea.

Look who I turned into a Kyle Lowry fan! Embrace the Lowry-ness!

Yep IP, you have convinced me. I mean Lowry is no Rondo, he's a little downgrade still though. I mean we're talking about an All Star triple double threat PG vs a PG who's starter quality, near all star talent. But with a potential package that could come along (picks maybe) it could be worth it.

Plays for Houston anyways, unless you mean Kyrie Irving.