Better at 21: Avery Bradley or Rajon Rondo ?

[bbd24]

You have a mixed bag when it comes to these 2 players.  Some loved them, and some hated them early on in their careers.  Rondo came out, developed, and turned most of those haters around. Is Bradley starting to do the same ?

I personally feel it's time for the development of Bradley's game to step up a notch. It's time he received the keys to the car.  This season is a perfect fit for doing just that.  I love Rondo, but if we can get 2/3 pieces for him, or a legit all star, it's a great move by Ainge.  Bradley can handle the position, and at 21, sky is the limit for what he can become down the road.

[snively]

At 21, Rondo was the much better rebounder, slasher, passer and playmaker, and a similarly disruptive defender (not so much with his man D as with his ability to get steals and deflection in the team defense).

Bradley is the better man defender, and looks to be a little better as a mid-range jump-shooter.

Rondo was a better prospect at the same age.  Showed all-star potential contingent on his development as a jump-shooter and his maturation as a play-maker.  Bradley's potential seems to be more in line with the Derek Fisher/Tony Allen standard of high-level roleplayer.

[ManUp]

Rondo was an NBA player the moment he stepped up on the court for the first time. When everyone was going crazy about Telfair I was quietly watching Rondo. Disruptive and very active on both ends, although unbelievably passive with his own shot. Bradley doesn't have the it factor Rondo came into the league with, where you knew he was going to be really good.

[PosImpos]

At 21, Rondo was the much better rebounder, slasher, passer and playmaker, and a similarly disruptive defender (not so much with his man D as with his ability to get steals and deflection in the team defense).

Bradley is the better man defender, and looks to be a little better as a mid-range jump-shooter.

Rondo was a better prospect at the same age.  Showed all-star potential contingent on his development as a jump-shooter and his maturation as a play-maker.  Bradley's potential seems to be more in line with the Derek Fisher/Tony Allen standard of high-level roleplayer.

I think you summed it up pretty nicely.

[kn 99]

Well Bradley's per 36 this season is about 9ppg and 3apg
And during the 07-08 season Rondos per 36 wasabout 12ppg and 6apg
 But like it was said earlier Rondo had the keys to the car and Bradley obviously doesnt

[Evantime34]

At 21, Rondo was the much better rebounder, slasher, passer and playmaker, and a similarly disruptive defender (not so much with his man D as with his ability to get steals and deflection in the team defense).

Bradley is the better man defender, and looks to be a little better as a mid-range jump-shooter.

Rondo was a better prospect at the same age.  Showed all-star potential contingent on his development as a jump-shooter and his maturation as a play-maker.  Bradley's potential seems to be more in line with the Derek Fisher/Tony Allen standard of high-level roleplayer.

I'd say Bradley is a better man and help defender. Even though Rondo does get steals he gambles too much and often swipes at the ball instead of moving his feet.

Bradley's jumper is much better, it looks better and goes in more. When Rondo was 21 he didn't even try to shoot that jumper  in games.

I think Bradley's ceiling is higher than Tony Allen (better jumper less bonehead plays), Derick Fisher (much better athleticism). If you look at his improvement from last year to this it is a good indicator of his work ethic and ability to improve. Not sure I can think of a good comp right now but I think it's much higher than that level.

[moiso]

At 21, Rondo was the much better rebounder, slasher, passer and playmaker, and a similarly disruptive defender (not so much with his man D as with his ability to get steals and deflection in the team defense).

Bradley is the better man defender, and looks to be a little better as a mid-range jump-shooter.

Rondo was a better prospect at the same age.  Showed all-star potential contingent on his development as a jump-shooter and his maturation as a play-maker.  Bradley's potential seems to be more in line with the Derek Fisher/Tony Allen standard of high-level roleplayer.

I'd say Bradley is a better man and help defender. Even though Rondo does get steals he gambles too much and often swipes at the ball instead of moving his feet.

Bradley's jumper is much better, it looks better and goes in more. When Rondo was 21 he didn't even try to shoot that jumper  in games.

I think Bradley's ceiling is higher than Tony Allen (better jumper less bonehead plays), Derick Fisher (much better athleticism). If you look at his improvement from last year to this it is a good indicator of his work ethic and ability to improve. Not sure I can think of a good comp right now but I think it's much higher than that level.

Tony Allen's jumping ability at Bradley's age was off the charts.  And I'd rather have a great defender of TA's size than Bradley's.

Rondo had a very high IQ from day one.  I really like Bradley but I don't think it's fair to compare him to these two guys yet.

[2short]

Rondo was an NBA player the moment he stepped up on the court for the first time. When everyone was going crazy about Telfair I was quietly watching Rondo. Disruptive and very active on both ends, although unbelievably passive with his own shot. Bradley doesn't have the it factor Rondo came into the league with, where you knew he was going to be really good.

man up word for word
first time i saw rondo hit the floor i was thinking the next great celtic
bradley i see as could be late developer like billups or ta or could just never round out his game
greg pruitt had a nice stroke to his jumper

[Bankshot]

Rondo has the edge, but I think Bradley is a better defender and a better shooter.  Bradley has improved his offensive skills much faster than Rondo.  Rondo is still an inconsistent offensive player and he is in his 5th year (or is it 6th?).

[snively]

At 21, Rondo was the much better rebounder, slasher, passer and playmaker, and a similarly disruptive defender (not so much with his man D as with his ability to get steals and deflection in the team defense).

Bradley is the better man defender, and looks to be a little better as a mid-range jump-shooter.

Rondo was a better prospect at the same age.  Showed all-star potential contingent on his development as a jump-shooter and his maturation as a play-maker.  Bradley's potential seems to be more in line with the Derek Fisher/Tony Allen standard of high-level roleplayer.

I'd say Bradley is a better man and help defender. Even though Rondo does get steals he gambles too much and often swipes at the ball instead of moving his feet.

Bradley's jumper is much better, it looks better and goes in more. When Rondo was 21 he didn't even try to shoot that jumper  in games.

I think Bradley's ceiling is higher than Tony Allen (better jumper less bonehead plays), Derick Fisher (much better athleticism). If you look at his improvement from last year to this it is a good indicator of his work ethic and ability to improve. Not sure I can think of a good comp right now but I think it's much higher than that level.

You can't just focus on Bradley's positives when projecting his development.  Bradley's jumper looks a little better than TA's did, and he's sticking to his limits a little better, but TA was a more versatile defender, a much better rebounder and a much better slasher.  Bradley's jumper needs to be much better than TA's to have a comparable impact.

[CFAN38]

Rondo by alot..

However I like the prospects of Avery as our first guard off the bench.

[snively]

Rondo has the edge, but I think Bradley is a better defender and a better shooter.  Bradley has improved his offensive skills much faster than Rondo.  Rondo is still an inconsistent offensive player and he is in his 5th year (or is it 6th?).

It's easy to improve when you set the bar so low.  Bradley may have been the worst offensive player in the league last year.  He's improved to well-below-average but serviceable offensively.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Rondo has the edge, but I think Bradley is a better defender and a better shooter.  Bradley has improved his offensive skills much faster than Rondo.  Rondo is still an inconsistent offensive player and he is in his 5th year (or is it 6th?).

It's easy to improve when you set the bar so low.  Bradley may have been the worst offensive player in the league last year.  He's improved to well-below-average but serviceable offensively.

Couldn't that be said for RR, I mean you gotta basically beg RR to take a jumper (shoot) and he is 26 now!! RR isn't bad at shooting jumpers but you wanna cry b/c he doesn't shoot! I mean he got 15 last night (I think 1pt from the line) and all were less than 3ft layups! How was RR shooting at 21 (which is what this is about)?

[ManUp]

Bradley is a pretty nice prospect though considering his age. The thing with him is that his success depends on whether he can play the point or not. Until recently I thought there was no way he could play point, but I liked what I saw from him against Cleveland. It looks like he's starting to feel comfortable on the floor and is becoming more aware of teammates and the system. I'm starting to get a little bit excited about him.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Bradley is a pretty nice prospect though considering his age. The thing with him is that his success depends on whether he can play the point or not. Until recently I thought there was no way he could play point, but I liked what I saw from him against Cleveland. It looks like he's starting to feel comfortable on the floor and is becoming more aware of teammates and the system. I'm starting to get a little bit excited about him.

Looks as if he may become a PG yet, Doc said RR and AB ran the offense by literally calling out plays and he hasn't seen that in a while! He was excited that RR went back to that but you could also hear excitement when he added that AB RAN the offense well when he was in and not just going willy nilly, they actually called many set plays!