Latest ORL/LAL trade rumor - Howard/Nelson/Turkoglu - Bynum/Gasol

[greenpride32]

This is posted on Real GM with the Orlando Sentinel listed as their source.  Calderon also listed so I guess it would at least be a 3-way with the Raptors.

The Magic are denying a rumor that they have reached a deal with the Lakers and Raptors involving Dwight Howard.

Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Jameer Nelson would go to the Lakers, while the Magic would receive Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and possibly Jose Calderon.

Alex Martins, CEO of the Magic, confirmed to the Sentinel that the rumor is wrong.

Via Orlando Sentinel

[MBunge]

This is posted on Real GM with the Orlando Sentinel listed as their source.  Calderon also listed so I guess it would at least be a 3-way with the Raptors.

The Magic are denying a rumor that they have reached a deal with the Lakers and Raptors involving Dwight Howard.

Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Jameer Nelson would go to the Lakers, while the Magic would receive Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and possibly Jose Calderon.

Alex Martins, CEO of the Magic, confirmed to the Sentinel that the rumor is wrong.

Via Orlando Sentinel

1.  What would Toronto get out of the deal?

2.  LA would have to essentially junk their entire offense if this trade happened.

Mike

[greenpride32]

Rumor is Calderon has asked out of TOR; I don't know what it would take to pry him, but supposedly he is on the block.

It seems LAL has already decided to unload Pau.  Brown is used to having his offense flow through one person (LBJ) and that could just go to Kobe (if it hasn't already).

[Eddie20]

I don't know how Toronto can be involved in this. Also, from reports it seems that Orlando is a bit cautious because of Bynum's knee issues. So I came up with this deal involving us instead.

C's receive:
Bynum

Magic receive:
Gasol
Rondo
#1 Pick (LAC pick)...from Boston
#1 Pick (LAL pick)...from LA
#1 Pick (Dallas pick)...from LA

Lakers receive:
Howard
Nelson
Bass
Turkoglu

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6vdrhoc

[Who]

Pretty sure someone from Orlando's front office has  already said that this rumour is incorrect.

That the Sentinel's source was off-base.

[csfansince60s]

If this Bynum/Gasol end up in Orlando AND they get Nash as has been rumored, that's a pretty impressive lineup:

Bynum
Gasol/Anderson
JRich
Reddick
Nash

Not much depth after that, but the 1st 6 look pretty tough together.

[Eddie20]

If this Bynum/Gasol end up in Orlando AND they get Nash as has been rumored, that's a pretty impressive lineup:

Bynum
Gasol/Anderson
JRich
Reddick
Nash

Not much depth after that, but the 1st 6 look pretty tough together.

It would look great, but they don't have the assets to land Nash.

[csfansince60s]

If this Bynum/Gasol end up in Orlando AND they get Nash as has been rumored, that's a pretty impressive lineup:

Bynum
Gasol/Anderson
JRich
Reddick
Nash

Not much depth after that, but the 1st 6 look pretty tough together.

It would look great, but they don't have the assets to land Nash.

Maybe they do. Nash will not be in Phoenix next year. Given that and the Suns desire to accommodate Nash's wishes, I see the Suns taking Nelson, Orton a 1st round pick and cash (Sarver would insist on that) to offset some of Nelson's salary for Nash.

[indeedproceed]

If this Bynum/Gasol end up in Orlando AND they get Nash as has been rumored, that's a pretty impressive lineup:

Bynum
Gasol/Anderson
JRich
Reddick
Nash

Not much depth after that, but the 1st 6 look pretty tough together.

It would look great, but they don't have the assets to land Nash.

Maybe they do. Nash will not be in Phoenix next year. Given that and the Suns desire to accommodate Nash's wishes, I see the Suns taking Nelson, Orton a 1st round pick and cash (Sarver would insist on that) to offset some of Nelson's salary for Nash.

Why take on Nelson's 8 million dollars over 2 years, Orton (a guy who is not currently panning out) and a late first when there are other teams out there who can offer something useful?

[Vermont Green]

How about merging two rumors to have the Magic-Laker deal followed by:

Boston trades:  Rondo, O'Neal, a pick

Orlando Trades: Gasol and Calderon

We get Gasol and a serviceable PG (Calderon) without having to deal directly with the Lakers.

Orlando gets essentially 2 promising young players, a pick, and an expiring for Howard.

[j804]

Why make a thread about a rumor that is false

[csfansince60s]

If this Bynum/Gasol end up in Orlando AND they get Nash as has been rumored, that's a pretty impressive lineup:

Bynum
Gasol/Anderson
JRich
Reddick
Nash

Not much depth after that, but the 1st 6 look pretty tough together.

It would look great, but they don't have the assets to land Nash.

Maybe they do. Nash will not be in Phoenix next year. Given that and the Suns desire to accommodate Nash's wishes, I see the Suns taking Nelson, Orton a 1st round pick and cash (Sarver would insist on that) to offset some of Nelson's salary for Nash.

Why take on Nelson's 8 million dollars over 2 years, Orton (a guy who is not currently panning out) and a late first when there are other teams out there who can offer something useful?

The Suns have made it pretty clear that they will accommodate Nash's wishes. He walks at year's end anyway.

Orton has potential and is on a rookie salary for 2 years after this one. He is very cheap for a potentially serviceable big. Sarver loves cheap contracts.

Cash has to be included by Magic to offset part of Nelson's salary. Nelson expires next year and could be the veteran bridge point guard for Suns.

Orlando's first round pick will also be required, perhaps with the Suns' option to exercise it this year or next (or the next).

[indeedproceed]

If this Bynum/Gasol end up in Orlando AND they get Nash as has been rumored, that's a pretty impressive lineup:

Bynum
Gasol/Anderson
JRich
Reddick
Nash

Not much depth after that, but the 1st 6 look pretty tough together.

It would look great, but they don't have the assets to land Nash.

Maybe they do. Nash will not be in Phoenix next year. Given that and the Suns desire to accommodate Nash's wishes, I see the Suns taking Nelson, Orton a 1st round pick and cash (Sarver would insist on that) to offset some of Nelson's salary for Nash.

Why take on Nelson's 8 million dollars over 2 years, Orton (a guy who is not currently panning out) and a late first when there are other teams out there who can offer something useful?

The Suns have made it pretty clear that they will accommodate Nash's wishes. He walks at year's end anyway.

Orton has potential and is on a rookie salary for 2 years after this one. He is very cheap for a potentially serviceable big. Sarver loves cheap contracts.

Cash has to be included by Magic to offset part of Nelson's salary. Nelson expires next year and could be the veteran bridge point guard for Suns.

Orlando's first round pick will also be required, perhaps with the Suns' option to exercise it this year or next (or the next).

Right, I get how this deal makes sense in a vacuum, but with all the other stuff out there, the possible trades, I can't think a floundering prospect (Orton), a late 1st, and and overpaid mediocre point guard is gonna be the deal he takes.

[csfansince60s]

If this Bynum/Gasol end up in Orlando AND they get Nash as has been rumored, that's a pretty impressive lineup:

Bynum
Gasol/Anderson
JRich
Reddick
Nash

Not much depth after that, but the 1st 6 look pretty tough together.

It would look great, but they don't have the assets to land Nash.

Maybe they do. Nash will not be in Phoenix next year. Given that and the Suns desire to accommodate Nash's wishes, I see the Suns taking Nelson, Orton a 1st round pick and cash (Sarver would insist on that) to offset some of Nelson's salary for Nash.

Why take on Nelson's 8 million dollars over 2 years, Orton (a guy who is not currently panning out) and a late first when there are other teams out there who can offer something useful?

The Suns have made it pretty clear that they will accommodate Nash's wishes. He walks at year's end anyway.

Orton has potential and is on a rookie salary for 2 years after this one. He is very cheap for a potentially serviceable big. Sarver loves cheap contracts.

Cash has to be included by Magic to offset part of Nelson's salary. Nelson expires next year and could be the veteran bridge point guard for Suns.

Orlando's first round pick will also be required, perhaps with the Suns' option to exercise it this year or next (or the next).

Right, I get how this deal makes sense in a vacuum, but with all the other stuff out there, the possible trades, I can't think a floundering prospect (Orton), a late 1st, and and overpaid mediocre point guard is gonna be the deal he takes.

Agreed. Not the most attractive offer I've seen. And you would think that there would be better offers out there, but the contenders that need Nash are the Lakers (who have two 1sts this year), the Magic, the Heat (less so now with Cole) and the Knicks pre-Lin. None have expirings though to offer Sarver.

I guess the argument could be made that any team would be made better by Nash, even as a backup. If that's the case, that opens it up much wider to teams like the Pacers, Utah, the Blazers etc who could offer a combination of young talent, picks or expirings.

Don't think that the Suns trade him to somewhere that he doesn't want to go though. That really limits the Suns' options, because I don't think that he will want to play with a non-contender.

I agree, though that the Magic offer is weak.