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Re: Source: Magic Not Interested In Howard For Bynum Trade
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2012, 02:51:21 PM »

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If the Magic don't trade DH12, they can offer him a 5th year which equates to $30m more than he can get from any other team on the FA market (which would be a 4 year deal only).  Word is the Magic might be willing to gamble by holding onto DH12 and call his bluff that we won't leave the $30m or so on the table. 

Now think about this; agents have a very big influence on the player's decision, and what agent is going to leave $30m guaranteed on the table?  In 4-5 years, it's concievable DH12 won't be able to command another max contract.  He'l be in his early 30's and have 12-13 years of wear and tear on his body.
It is more likely that Howard will still get the big $ just like Pierce did. Considering that Howard has never had any serious physical problems, I suspect he would consider 4 year deals. It seems more likely though that he would go for a sign and trade to get the better deal.

Re: Source: Magic Not Interested In Howard For Bynum Trade
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2012, 03:40:36 PM »

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The gap between Bynum and Dwight is closing - He is matching him in Blocks, and is just a few points/rebounds short of what Dwight is doing this year, although much of that has to do with Dwight getting 4 more MPG, as well as having more scoring/rebounding opportunities (i.e. having Ryan Anderson instead of P. Gasol, and not having Kobe taking all the shots away from him).

If I'm the Lakers, I call the Magic's bluff and keep my offer - Other than maybe adding a small piece and/or pick, I know they're not getting better than that...And frankly, as a Lakers fan, I'm perfectly fine with rolling with Bynum the rest of the way. Just need to add a Ramon Sessions type PG, and maybe another athletic wing.

Re: Source: Magic Not Interested In Howard For Bynum Trade
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2012, 03:44:18 PM »

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Vescey is one of the best of the business, and is very plugged in...but this reeks of a smokescreen to me.  While I understand the fear of Bynum's injury history, and that he will want a big extension next year, right now he is the second best center in the league, and I am not sure #3 is close.  To get him for Howard would be very hard to turn down.  I really think this is just Orlando trying to get the Lakers into panicking, and throwing in extra value (such as assets they would get from a Gasol trade).

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-dwight-howard-to-lakers-20120226,0,7656235.story

Looks like the Lakers have very well thrown Gasol in.  And all we've heard for months is that the Magic would be interested in that.  So now that LA has upped their ante (presumably), will Orlando bite?

Re: Source: Magic Not Interested In Howard For Bynum Trade
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2012, 03:58:17 PM »

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I think Orlando want A.Bynum more than they want B.Lopez or A.Stoudemire.

Re: Source: Magic Not Interested In Howard For Bynum Trade
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2012, 03:59:38 PM »

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Bynum has a team option for 2012-2013.  If he refuses to sign an extension if traded, why would the Magic want to go through another year of drama?
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2012, 04:11:48 PM »

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Bynum has a team option for 2012-2013.  If he refuses to sign an extension if traded, why would the Magic want to go through another year of drama?

What's the alternative?  Lopez is a restricted free agent this summer, and will be unrestricted the same time as Bynum. 

I understand that they would prefer a young star who is locked up for 4 years, but that isn't going to happen.  So, they should be trying to get the best talent possible, and just hoping they take the extra money they can get by staying in Orlando.

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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2012, 04:56:34 PM »

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Vescey is one of the best of the business, and is very plugged in...but this reeks of a smokescreen to me.  While I understand the fear of Bynum's injury history, and that he will want a big extension next year, right now he is the second best center in the league, and I am not sure #3 is close.  To get him for Howard would be very hard to turn down.  I really think this is just Orlando trying to get the Lakers into panicking, and throwing in extra value (such as assets they would get from a Gasol trade).

Yeah, the thing about him wanting a max deal isn't that big of a deal. When you look at how Amare and Boozer got Max contracts, and how much money Tyson Chandler is getting, I don't think it's a stretch to say Bynum is an obvious max type of player.

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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2012, 04:59:42 PM »

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Vescey is one of the best of the business, and is very plugged in...but this reeks of a smokescreen to me.  While I understand the fear of Bynum's injury history, and that he will want a big extension next year, right now he is the second best center in the league, and I am not sure #3 is close.  To get him for Howard would be very hard to turn down.  I really think this is just Orlando trying to get the Lakers into panicking, and throwing in extra value (such as assets they would get from a Gasol trade).

Yeah, the thing about him wanting a max deal isn't that big of a deal. When you look at how Amare and Boozer got Max contracts, and how much money Tyson Chandler is getting, I don't think it's a stretch to say Bynum is an obvious max type of player.

I would take it a step further.  Based on his production this season (and when he has been healthy in previous seasons), he is a no brainer max player.  Health is a legitimate issue...but players of his caliber are not easy to come by.

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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2012, 05:21:41 PM »

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Orlando Magic have $30million reasons not to trade Dwight Howard.

I, myself don't think Dwight will walk away from $30million guaranteed money. No matter how rich he is, it'd be foolish to leave $30 million on the table considering players are always one play away from a career-ending injury.

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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2012, 05:52:24 PM »

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Orlando Magic have $30million reasons not to trade Dwight Howard.

I, myself don't think Dwight will walk away from $30million guaranteed money. No matter how rich he is, it'd be foolish to leave $30 million on the table considering players are always one play away from a career-ending injury.

I agree.  I'd take the 30 mill and hope Orlando could get out of the contract mess their  and sign a great point guard an dupgrade the team more in next couple years. Or rather , let ANOTHER STAR , take a pay cut to play on my team....they need me , not the other way around.

I thinking he is no hurry to leave, and they are in no hurry to dump him for players that REALLY are not good enought to trbuild a team around. Might be better off saving the money and blowing up the team and going lottery ..like the C's need to do.

If Orlando takes both Bynum and Gasol , they won't keep em, they 'll flip them to other teams and start over.


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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2012, 05:59:54 PM »

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Orlando Magic have $30million reasons not to trade Dwight Howard.

I, myself don't think Dwight will walk away from $30million guaranteed money. No matter how rich he is, it'd be foolish to leave $30 million on the table considering players are always one play away from a career-ending injury.

Eh, while it is $30 million guaranteed, the majority of that is based on the extra year he would get.  However, a player like Howard likely has one more max contract in him, or close to it.  And in fact, he might end up making more money by being able to sign his last big contract at 31, rather than at 32.

Now, there is always the chance of injury, but given his history, I am not sure that is a big enough risk to make him stay in a situation he is not satisfied with.

I think that extra year is a big deal for older players and for lesser stars, but for a top 3 player like Howard, who is just 27, that 5th year is not as big a deal.

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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2012, 06:09:03 PM »

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Magic are going to full around and get nothing for him, watch...

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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2012, 06:16:43 PM »

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Orlando Magic have $30million reasons not to trade Dwight Howard.

I, myself don't think Dwight will walk away from $30million guaranteed money. No matter how rich he is, it'd be foolish to leave $30 million on the table considering players are always one play away from a career-ending injury.

Eh, while it is $30 million guaranteed, the majority of that is based on the extra year he would get.  However, a player like Howard likely has one more max contract in him, or close to it.  And in fact, he might end up making more money by being able to sign his last big contract at 31, rather than at 32.

Now, there is always the chance of injury, but given his history, I am not sure that is a big enough risk to make him stay in a situation he is not satisfied with.

I think that extra year is a big deal for older players and for lesser stars, but for a top 3 player like Howard, who is just 27, that 5th year is not as big a deal.

you're leaving a lot to chance. who knows what tomorrow will bring let a lot 4years from now

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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2012, 06:35:33 PM »

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Magic are going to full around and get nothing for him, watch...

I think this a VERY GOOD possibility. The owner is stubborn , old , and doesn't need the money...he can afford to play the odds ...after the dust settles that Howard will sign sometime.

To me I see draft picks as important as anybody thats been offered up as trade bait.  Truley Howard is worth a great player or top 10 player, not a top 20player everybody is offering.

I think the owner says no thanks to LA, and honestly the NETS have only D WILL as anybody really worth trading, and of course they want to keep him.

I'm betting Howard stays for now and becomes a free agent. I think Orlando is getting use to the idea , and the Owner rather see him walk , than take stuff he don't want. Just to prove a point ...I"M RICH AND PROUD AND I CAN