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Re: If the Celtics wanted to trade Rondo this season, luck is against them.
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2012, 03:54:06 PM »

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I have my doubts that Avery is a PG in skillset.  His D is good but his assists are not.   His shot comes and goes but has been looking better.   I think he is one of those PG in height guys who is forced to play it.

Re: If the Celtics wanted to trade Rondo this season, luck is against them.
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2012, 06:07:16 PM »

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I generally agree. It seems like several years ago, it was the same thing with the 2/3 position, there was just so much talent there that a lot of guys who were suddenly going for 17/4/4 were getting big paydays, because that used to be worth something, but then suddenly there were so many 2/3 guys that you could get close to that with draft picks, free agent pickups, etc.

Now I think it's that way with the PG spot, and there's probably going to be a collapse.

Just look at someone like Calderon: throws up a 12/9/4 every year or so with great percentages, and is 'overpaid' at 9 mil per year. He'd get more than that 10 years ago during the 2/3 boom. But now it's just not worth paying a PG unless he's truly elite; you can get 12/8 or even 18/5 or something from your PG for practically nothing.

That's why Rondo's 5/55 contract is not a bargain; it should be a bargain, but because of the rules and talent, its just so easy to be a good PG that no one is rushing to take Rondo and his 5/55; not that he's overpaid, but not the bargain that his production was several years ago.


As an aside, it seems like True SG is a position that is now lacking; how many 6'4-6'6 guys with legit shooting guard size can defend the position and shoot reliably without being some tweener 2/3 that's more slasher than shooter or a 1/2 combo that needs the ball.

Re: If the Celtics wanted to trade Rondo this season, luck is against them.
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2012, 06:27:35 PM »

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Yes, plenty of talent at the position.

As a side note, Lin isn't even on the same planet of Rondo or Rubio.

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A very solid argument could be made that if you did the following:

1. Put a young Joe Johnson type in Pierce's spot
2. A young Eric Gordon type in Ray's place
3. A young Al Horford in KG's place
4. And a DeAndre Jordan type at center

You might well have another very young and very dominant team with Rondo at the head of it, directing traffic much like when KG, Pierce and Ray first arrived here.

Lots of PGs would make that team dominant.

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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2012, 06:33:10 PM »

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Lots of PGs would make that team dominant.

Exactly, and that's kind of the point of the original post.
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Re: If the Celtics wanted to trade Rondo this season, luck is against them.
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2012, 06:37:45 PM »

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As an aside, it seems like True SG is a position that is now lacking; how many 6'4-6'6 guys with legit shooting guard size can defend the position and shoot reliably without being some tweener 2/3 that's more slasher than shooter or a 1/2 combo that needs the ball.

That and the center position are definitely lacking right now.

The league is full of combo guards, big 3's, swing forwards, and face-up big men.

The main thing in Rondo's favor is that pure passing point guards are also in short supply.  Other than him, I think it's basically Rubio, Nash, Kidd, and Andre Miller, with CP3 capable of being a scorer or a passer.  In a couple years, Rubio will be the only other one left.
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