What do you prefer? Blow it up or Re-tool around Rondo?

[JSD]

First preference - rebuilding with Rondo, not as a franchise player but as a building block

Second preference - trading Rondo for a high draft pick and enter into a full blown rebuilding process

I like the second preference - Not only do we get a high pick that could equate to Rondo's talent level, we also get that money off the books to bid on agents who are free.

[greg683x]

Rondo's trade value is going to remain high and go up higher post big 3.

That's because his scoring will go up....I think he'll average 18 points
once he's not only the spark plug but also a bigger part of the engine..which just isn't
possible on our current halfcourt offense team of aged superstars.

So then, if it's not working out with him at the helm you can trade him when he's a clear cut all-star who's higher scoring average will put to rest any concerns teams have about his jumper.

But first try it out.  Give him Rudy Gay and Josh Smith or the like, but, much more important, get him a defensive beast at center who can run.  

What makes you think Rondos trade value is high right now??  Look at the deals New Orleans was ranking higher than the ones we were offering for Chris Paul.

Theres just as much of a chance his value plummets as there is in the scenario you made above.  When Ray, Paul, and KG are gone whats going to keep the defense from completely crowding the lane?

[bostonpatriot]

It doesn't matter. Let the market dictate if/for how long Rondo stays.

[Kuberski33]

If you wanted to rebuild and you wanted to trade Rondo, I don't think that means you need to start the process by trading Rondo.  I can envision a scenario where Rondo stays through a multi-year rebuild and is traded towards the end for that final missing piece.

He's probably playing for about 2 million a year below his market value. Couple that with playing on a crappy team with no hope to contend till his deal is done - and that's if the rebuild goes well, which is no guarantee -- don't think keeping him around makes any sense - especially the way he's known to brood.  I can't see him being happy staying here.  Better to deal him now for assets you can accumulate.

[greg683x]

my vote is to blow it up.

the last time Rondo was on a team full of mediocre players, Doc Rivers had to have a private talk with him and tell him that his teammates hated him.  If you made a mistake on the floor, you got a scowl from Rondo.

Yeah when this happened Rondo was what? a 2nd year player?  So he may have matured since then.  But then again, he did crack a a TV monitor during a film session last year when he was being criticized.  

Factor in that hes only 26, if everything goes right during the rebuilding process he'll be 30 by the time we're ready to compete.....and like I said, thats if everything goes right.

[Who]

First preference - rebuilding with Rondo, not as a franchise player but as a building block

Second preference - trading Rondo for a high draft pick and enter into a full blown rebuilding process

I like the second preference - Not only do we get a high pick that could equate to Rondo's talent level, we also get that money off the books to bid on agents who are free.

That's the thinking. I was hoping San Antonio would do that a few years ago, the 2010 free agency, with Tony Parker. Alas, they did not. Four high quality pieces with Duncan, Manu, a high lottery pick and hopefully a max contract signing.

Very aggressive rebuilding strategy.

[SHAQATTACK]

Try to entice some "DECENT TALENT" , not other teams castoffs, over the hill rejects, or cripples to join Rondo and see if we can land /steal/ beg /luck into  great draft pick .

Unless the chips fall our way, by some miracle , I see only getting valuable draft picks to deveolop or trade for established quality players is the only way for Boston to get better and ascend by to the top.... 5-10 years doing it the old fashioned way.

[LooseCannon]

If you wanted to rebuild and you wanted to trade Rondo, I don't think that means you need to start the process by trading Rondo.  I can envision a scenario where Rondo stays through a multi-year rebuild and is traded towards the end for that final missing piece.

He's probably playing for about 2 million a year below his market value. Couple that with playing on a crappy team with no hope to contend till his deal is done - and that's if the rebuild goes well, which is no guarantee -- don't think keeping him around makes any sense - especially the way he's known to brood.  I can't see him being happy staying here.  Better to deal him now for assets you can accumulate.

I'd say Rondo isn't playing well below his market value, but I think his actual value is probably greater than his market value because markets are often wrong in setting value and Rondo is the kind of talent who would be under-appreciated in a market that over-values volume scoring.

But I don't think he is a max salary level player and it actually makes more sense to me that if you consider Rondo to be a fundamental building block, then you should work to acquire assets that can be packaged with Rondo to acquire that franchise player.

[byennie]

For those that would drop Rondo and build from scratch, all I can say is... Chicago Bulls. Yeah, they look good right now, but we're talking a major market that took 10 years to rebuild through the draft. Seriously, look at the positions they've drafted in the lottery since 2001. And they have yet to reach the finals with any of these players. Those are incredibly high picks and some pretty good players, and it's just now coming together with unknown results (i.e. they still might not win a championship with the Heat, Thunder, Lakers etc in the running).

#1, #2, #2, #2, #3, #4, #7, #7, #9, #13

Eddy Curry (#4)
Tyson Chandler (#2)
Jason Williams (#2)
Kirk Hinrich (#7)
Ben Gordon (#3)
Luol Deng (#7)
Tyrus Thomas (#2 / trade)
Thabo Sefolosha (#13)
Joakim Noah (#9)
Derrick Rose (#1)

[PosImpos]

For those that would drop Rondo and build from scratch, all I can say is... Chicago Bulls. Yeah, they look good right now, but we're talking a major market that took 10 years to rebuild through the draft. Seriously, look at the positions they've drafted in the lottery since 2001. And they have yet to reach the finals with any of these players. Those are incredibly high picks and some pretty good players, and it's just now coming together with unknown results (i.e. they still might not win a championship with the Heat, Thunder, Lakers etc in the running).

#1, #2, #2, #2, #3, #4, #7, #7, #9, #13

Eddy Curry (#4)
Tyson Chandler (#2)
Jason Williams (#2)
Kirk Hinrich (#7)
Ben Gordon (#3)
Luol Deng (#7)
Tyrus Thomas (#2 / trade)
Thabo Sefolosha (#13)
Joakim Noah (#9)
Derrick Rose (#1)

Luck certainly plays a role, but I think you could make the case that Chicago didn't exactly pick well or manage their team all that well during that time, especially earlier in the decade. 

Also, three of those players ended up being core pieces on a contending team (Deng, Noah, Rose).

[greg683x]

For those that would drop Rondo and build from scratch, all I can say is... Chicago Bulls. Yeah, they look good right now, but we're talking a major market that took 10 years to rebuild through the draft. Seriously, look at the positions they've drafted in the lottery since 2001. And they have yet to reach the finals with any of these players. Those are incredibly high picks and some pretty good players, and it's just now coming together with unknown results (i.e. they still might not win a championship with the Heat, Thunder, Lakers etc in the running).

#1, #2, #2, #2, #3, #4, #7, #7, #9, #13

Eddy Curry (#4)
Tyson Chandler (#2)
Jason Williams (#2)
Kirk Hinrich (#7)
Ben Gordon (#3)
Luol Deng (#7)
Tyrus Thomas (#2 / trade)
Thabo Sefolosha (#13)
Joakim Noah (#9)
Derrick Rose (#1)

Luck certainly plays a role, but I think you could make the case that Chicago didn't exactly pick well or manage their team all that well during that time, especially earlier in the decade.  

Also, three of those players ended up being core pieces on a contending team (Deng, Noah, Rose).

i agree, Chicago probably isnt the best example to use to deter people from wanting to scrap and rebuild.

Also, Factor in that Curry and Chandler came when just about all GMs were gaga over high school  and foreign players.  You'd be hard pressed to find a lottery team around then that probably didnt whiff on a high school prospect or foreign player.  


That team isnt anything without Derrick Rose though.  You can draft as many quality players like Deng and Noah all you want but you dont have squat until you have a franchise player.  It really is all luck.  Luck gets you the first pick, and luck also gets you the first pick in the right draft to have the first pick in.  Or luck lets Paul Pierce fall to you at 10, or make some bonehead in Detroit pick Darko

[chambers]

the last time Rondo was on a team full of mediocre players, Doc Rivers had to have a private talk with him and tell him that his teammates hated him.  If you made a mistake on the floor, you got a scowl from Rondo.

I don't remember this at all. His team mates hated him?

[CoachBo]

Trade Rondo.

Now.

[ForexPirate]

do you think rondo's team mates like him now?  Not sure anything has changed there ...

[csfansince60s]

Unless we can rebuild within 2-3 years, rebuilding with Rondo is ill-advised. Rondo's game relies almost entirely on his speed, and as many have already pointed out, Rondo will most likely be in his 30s when we can compete again. Too late.

I vote to trade Rondo for a young player and high pick or an expiring and a high pick or a young player and an expiring.

Would the Suns trade us Nash and their unprotected 1st this year for Rondo and filler? Would they trade Markief Morris and Nash for Rondo and filler? Either way, we get younger and a huge expiring this year in Nash to go along with KG and Ray and others who expire. HUGE cap space.