What do you prefer? Blow it up or Re-tool around Rondo?

[PosImpos]

First preference - rebuilding with Rondo, not as a franchise player but as a building block

Second preference - trading Rondo for a high draft pick and enter into a full blown rebuilding process

I agree with this, although your second preference would be my first if Danny believes that the player we're moving up to draft is going to be a real star (e.g. Harrison Barnes).

[CelticG1]

Scary thing about rondo is that he is second tier star and would most likely attract second stirring stars like Josh smith or Rudy gay. Those teams would be fun but not enough talent/substance.

Pierce,  Allen, and KG were all 1st tier guys with a lot more cache than I think rondo has

[bfrombleacher]

Scary thing about rondo is that he is second tier star and would most likely attract second stirring stars like Josh smith or Rudy gay. Those teams would be fun but not enough talent/substance.

Pierce,  Allen, and KG were all 1st tier guys with a lot more cache than I think rondo has

I hate the Heat for that :\

[acieEarl]

I'd stick with keep rondo as a building block. Almost any trade deal with Rondo is going to get us 50 cents on the dollar. Good teams need multiple great players.

Keep Rondo, explore trades to get additional draft picks(most likely will end up being late first round picks). Swing a deal to bring in Gay or Smith.

If we have like 4 picks in this draft even if they are late picks we are bound to get at least 1 or 2 decent players in this loaded draft. Possibly move up in the draft as well.

Either way we it's going to take some years to get back to a contender.

[Corey]

I prefer to blow it up and rebuild through the draft for a few years.

Rondo isn't going to be content here with a mediocre team, and he's a valuable trade asset if you want to acquire trade assets for the draft.

Rondo is too flawed to build a team around, and he has to be in the perfect situation in order to be successful.

Suck for a few years, draft and groom your own talent, and by the time those players are ready to compete...Miami and Chicago will be at the end of their reign of dominance.

[celtics2]

Can't retool around Rondo. Rondo has to be part of a good team in order to excel. And they better have some jump shooters because the paint will be crowded. His lack of shooting doesn't hurt our offense as much as it helps opponents defenses.

[Tone]

Keep Rondo and surround some good players around him

[PosImpos]

Scary thing about rondo is that he is second tier star and would most likely attract second stirring stars like Josh smith or Rudy gay. Those teams would be fun but not enough talent/substance.

Pierce,  Allen, and KG were all 1st tier guys with a lot more cache than I think rondo has

I tend to agree.  

To be fair, though, pretty much the only way to get a tier 1 star in this league is to draft one, or else trade high-potential assets (lottery picks or players) for one about to leave his team.

Such stars almost never reach free agency (especially after The Decision), and when they do, they go to big markets / warm weather cities.


It's possible, as the Celtics demonstrated in the summer of 07, to trade for Tier 1 stars by trading second tier assets (e.g. 5th pick, Al Jefferson), but probably only if they're on the tail end of their prime, as Allen and Garnett were.

[snively]

I think Rondo is very likely to stay unless someone offers a "superstar" or a top 5 draft pick for him. Very similar situation to the one Paul Pierce was in after Ainge demoed that ugly 02/03 team. 

Thankfully this time we don't have anything like Vin Baker's albatross contract to prolong the mediocrity.   

[Tgro]

This is the reason I prefer to blow it up and move Rondo;  bad relationship.

You know when you're with a girlfriend and you got to that comfortable stage and then you're not sure if you two are exactly headed in the same direction and you get in silly arguments and then she catches you looking at another girl and you have some huge fight where you both say stuff you regret? Then you make up, and yeah sure, maybe make up sex is good, but uhhhh....this just isn't going to work long term.

I think we're there.  We had a nice relationship. Let's stay friends. But you need to at least move out and get your own apartment. You can keep the painting. I'll keep the pool table.

I agree with this. I think we've already peaked with Rondo and that was about 2 seasons ago. He seems like damaged goods. Plays fantastic some games and seems disinterested, fragile and hurt (emotionally) in others. I feel like if we build around him, we'll always be a piece short.

If we can cut our losses and move on with the Big 3, I think we can do the same with him and be better off for it in the long run.

[PosImpos]

I think Rondo is very likely to stay unless someone offers a "superstar" or a top 5 draft pick for him. Very similar situation to the one Paul Pierce was in after Ainge demoed that ugly 02/03 team.  

Thankfully this time we don't have anything like Vin Baker's albatross contract to prolong the mediocrity.    

I think you're probably right.  I do wonder, as others have in this thread, though, if the relationship between Rondo and the team is such that it might be better for both parties to move on.

I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that Rondo is a mercurial player whose play -- and the play of those around him -- can be affected by such off-court matters.

[Evantime34]

I'd prefer to keep Rondo and trade one or all of the big three at the deadline.
the current celtics system is a a slow down half court style that really emphasizes rondo's shortcomings. This leads to focus on those deficiencies which lowers his value. If we keep him and change our style to fit him that should give us the most value.

[chambers]

I think Rondo is very likely to stay unless someone offers a "superstar" or a top 5 draft pick for him. Very similar situation to the one Paul Pierce was in after Ainge demoed that ugly 02/03 team.  

Thankfully this time we don't have anything like Vin Baker's albatross contract to prolong the mediocrity.    

I think you're probably right.  I do wonder, as others have in this thread, though, if the relationship between Rondo and the team is such that it might be better for both parties to move on.

I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that Rondo is a mercurial player whose play -- and the play of those around him -- can be affected by such off-court matters.

That's the main worry I have with Rondo. If he's whining a bit while we're only 2 years removed from a championship appearance, what's he going to be like with a much worse team in 2 years time? He seems to love teaching the young guys on the floor and helping them adjust so who knows.

It sure as hell would sting to see him lobbing easy buckets to Kanter and Favors while we scrape the bottom of the barrel and had a Durant/Oden lottery dose of luck again.

I'm trying to think of top 5 pick teams that would give up one of them for Rondo. If the Bobcats hadn't gotten Walker I'd say they'd be keen to a certain point.
Maybe even the Bucks for their highest pick.

Jennings+a top 10 pick?

[PosImpos]

Jennings+a top 10 pick?

Maybe, if only because Jennings has expressed a willingness to explore leaving Milwaukee in free agency.  I'm not such a big fan of Jennings' game, though.  He seems like a rich man's Aaron Brooks, to me.  Too much of a gunner without other elite skills.

But that's the sort of deal that might be worth exploring (Rondo for another young player with some star potential and a top 10 pick).

[Celts Fan 92]

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