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Things to consider before you propose a trade
« on: February 21, 2012, 09:58:05 PM »

Offline LooseCannon

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Some of the trade ideas people are coming up with are driving me nuts.  Is there a level of craziness beyond Linsanity?

1. Read this Celtics Hub post.  If you are too lazy to click on the link, read this excerpt:

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For the future, here are a few frequent Trade Machine pitfalls to avoid.

1. Pretending “Jermaine O’Neal, Keyon Dooling, Sasha Pavlovic, and Avery Bradley” is a trade package.

This is probably the most common ridiculous trade type we’re seeing lately, because it allows the trader to get rid of four players nobody cares about by operating under the assumptions that four players is always better than one. This is very false. No team wants any of these players individually; why would they want all four of them at the same time?

2. Run your idea through the ESPN Trade Machine.  Also, please list your idea in your forum post.  Don't make me click on a bare link to the Trade Machine to see your idea.  If you do, there's no irony if Mark Blount called you a lazy poster.

3. Recognize that there is a separate subforum on this site called "Trade Ideas and Rumors".  Put your idea there, not in "Celtics Talk".

Any other ideas to add to the list?
« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 10:53:34 PM by Roy H. »
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Re: Things to consider before you propose a trade
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 10:33:33 PM »

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Re: Things to consider before you propose a trade
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 10:51:13 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2012, 11:35:24 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 12:01:00 AM »

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Jermaine O’Neal, Keyon Dooling, Sasha Pavlovic, and Avery Bradley

for

Steven Jackson and Jon Brockman.Indian gets a protected second round pick to take Pavlovic (in order to not force the Bucks to cut players from the roster).

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Jermaine O’Neal, Keyon Dooling, Sasha Pavlovic, and Avery Bradley

for

Josh Childress, Robin Lopez, Sebastian Telfair and a pick

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Jermaine O’Neal, Keyon Dooling, Sasha Pavlovic, and Avery Bradley

for

Francisco Garcia, Tyler Honeycut and JJ Hickson

etc.

It's just a bad trade package that is not worth moving by itself to keep the cap room open.

Re: Things to consider before you propose a trade
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 12:04:24 AM »

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Read the article now that the link works.  I love the "gum smacking around in his mouth" line.
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Re: Things to consider before you propose a trade
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 12:08:59 AM »

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Figured I'd add this:

Rajon Rondo is NOT allowed to be included in any trade proposal.  Anyone who wants to trade him is obviously just a Laker troll, pretending to be a Celtics fan.

Reason?  He's my current favorite player, and I said so.   :P

Re: Things to consider before you propose a trade
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 12:11:27 AM »

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You make some good points but my biggest pet peeve about trade proposals.  It's the whole, "he sucks, trade him" statement we get a lot.

First, if you sincerely think a player sucks and want to trade him, what makes you think you can get a player back that doesnt suck?  Second, the worst time to trade a player is when he is sucking.  At that point he has the lowest value and the return will match. 

One more thing:  it seems that fans never want to trade good players.  What they don't understand is that ultimately, you have to give up value to get value.

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 07:21:02 AM »

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Shouldn't this be in 'Trades Ideas and Rumours' ?  ;D
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